[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-03 Thread demery
having an appropriate jig to be able to carry this out as fast as possible (forget about go-bars; I do not think they are a good idea at all, unless one could tension several at the same time!) try it before you give up, I think you will find it a popular solution with many luthiers.

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-02 Thread Timothy Motz
One other thing I've found useful when gluing up with hide glue is an electric tacking iron, which you can buy at hobby stores. A glue joint returns to being workable if it's warmed up, especially if you do it right away. So if I'm gluing the ribs of a bowl together I just slap on the

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
-express.com wrote: From: Timothy Motz tam...@buckeye-express.com Subject: [LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength To: dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us Cc: Andrew Hartig cittern2...@theaterofmusic.com, lute-buil...@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 2 December, 2009, 12:56

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-02 Thread Chadwick Neal
Hi All, Thanks for weighing in on this topic. I've been using 315, and I think I'm ready to order some lower strength. It's been good to use especially when you want the fast tack and I've adapted my technique to suit. I would never be able to use Tim's method of glueing the braces all in one go

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-02 Thread tamotz
serves to dry out the wood if there is any residual moisture. Part of the fun for an amateur is figuring all this stuff out. Tim --- qui...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Chadwick Neal qui...@earthlink.net To: lute-buil...@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength Date: Wed

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-02 Thread Santiago Ramos-Collado
-express.com Asunto: [LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength A: qui...@earthlink.net Cc: lute-buil...@cs.dartmouth.edu Fecha: miercoles, 2 diciembre, 2009, 12:53 pm Chad, Well, it's a small anvil. About a foot long. A blacksmith's anvil would definitely be overkill. I

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-02 Thread demery
Hi All, Thanks for weighing in on this topic. I've been using 315, and I think I'm ready to order some lower strength. It's been good to use especially when you want the fast tack and I've adapted my technique to suit. I would never be able to use Tim's method of glueing the braces all in

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-02 Thread relees
: lute-buil...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:56 AM Subject: [LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength Greetings to all. I'm missing something here. What's the use of gluing all the braces at once? Best regards, S. Ramos Collado --- El mie 2-dic-09, tam

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-02 Thread demery
The Purpose of gluing on all the braces on the soundboard at once is that it is easier then to control some very important factors. I can see all that, but I wonder at setting up all those bars simultaneously, I would have thought it more practical to work from the center bars towards each

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-02 Thread tamotz
that about as well. If I was making lutes for sale I would probably go to more trouble. Tim --- rel...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: rel...@sbcglobal.net To: Santiago Ramos-Collado chagorra...@yahoo.com Cc: lute-buil...@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength Date: Wed

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-02 Thread relees
...@sbcglobal.net Cc: chagorra...@yahoo.com; lute-buil...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength R, My go-bar box is a four foot cube (plywood top and bottom with threaded rods in the corners holding them apart). I've cut

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-02 Thread Santiago Ramos-Collado
, S. Ramos-Collado --- El mie 2-dic-09, rel...@sbcglobal.net rel...@sbcglobal.net escribio: De: rel...@sbcglobal.net rel...@sbcglobal.net Asunto: [LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength A: Santiago Ramos-Collado chagorra...@yahoo.com Cc: lute-buil...@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-01 Thread demery
I'm wondering what gram strength glue other builders out there are using. there are other traditional glues beyond hide glue, fish glue and rabbit glue are sometimes mentioned. fish glue is similar, but not identical; rabbit glue is a particular quality of hide glue.

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: hide glue gram strength

2009-12-01 Thread Timothy Motz
I have only a modest amount of experience, but I've been using the 192 gram strength from LMII and have only had a problem with glue failures on the bridge. And that, I think, was due to my inexperience in gluing on bridges, not because of the glue itself. After a few problems I got some