[LUTE] Re: prostitution / greensleeves

A propos "green sleeves" - I am not an expert, but the author's appeal to question ad hoc interpretations seems generally important to me. https://earlymusicmuse.com/greensleeves1of3mythology/ In any case, the verses of greensleeves really seem to speak of love or

[LUTE] Re: Greensleeves

elody... works just fine... Val - Original Message - From: "Peter Jones" > To: "Lute Net" Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: [LUTE] Greensleeves Hi all, A singer I work with wants to do Greensleeves - I usually refuse, but because of the (not necess

[LUTE] Re: Greensleeves

Just take the William Ballet Lute book version, play ABAB as long as the song goes on the same melody... works just fine... Val - Original Message - From: "Peter Jones" To: "Lute Net" Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 3:34 PM Subject: [LUTE] Greensleeves Hi a

[LUTE] Re: Greensleeves

On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:34 PM, Peter Jones wrote: > Hi all, > > A singer I work with wants to do Greensleeves - I usually refuse, > but because of the (not necessarily accurate) associations with > Henry VIII and it being the anniversary of his accession, I have > capitulated. &g

[LUTE] Greensleeves

Hi all, A singer I work with wants to do Greensleeves - I usually refuse, but because of the (not necessarily accurate) associations with Henry VIII and it being the anniversary of his accession, I have capitulated. Does anyone have a decent version that they could send me? I'd be

[LUTE] Re: Dalza's Greensleeves

Beautiful Martin! How good of you digging this up! Best Wishes G. - Original Message - From: "Martin Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lute Net" Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: [LUTE] Dalza's Greensleeves Hi All, The new piec

[LUTE] Dalza's Greensleeves

Hi All, The new piece of the month (for August! I'm still trying to catch up with myself) is now available for your delectation at www.luteshop.co.uk/month/pieceofthemonth.htm I'm hoping to do some more Dalza before the end of his anniversary year, though since his book was published on 31st

[LUTE] Re: Greensleeves - Poulton 2

I hope I'm helping here. This is the Fronimo file from the William Ballet Lute Book Neil -Original Message- From: Stewart McCoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2007 16:18 To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Greensleeves - Poulton 2 Further to my previous message on this t

[LUTE] Greensleeves - Poulton 2

Further to my previous message on this thread ... Greensleeves can be heard performed by Valery Sauvage on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2XP_noEXXc He chooses to re-iterate the B flat chord. At the very beginning of the clip, you can see a facsimile of the Ballet copy, where the single B

[LUTE] Re: Greensleeves - Poulton

t; > On 4 Jun 2007, at 11:34, Stephen Kenyon wrote: > >> Me again again. Does the Greensleeves version from Diano Poulton's >> lute >> tutor come from a particular source or is it an amalgam of different >> sources? And does the rhythm in the first bars of the 3rd

[LUTE] Greensleeves - Poulton

Dear Stephen, The lute tutor you refer to is Diana Poulton, _An Introduction to Lute Playing_ (London: Schott & Co. Ltd., 1961). (There is a more recent lute tutor by her, but I don't have a copy to see if the piece is there too.) Greensleeves appears as no. 5 on pp. 8-9 of

[LUTE] Re: Greensleeves - Poulton

I do not have access to the Ballet lute book here in the office. However, I do remember that the version of Greensleeves in Ballet is VERY poor. Especially the rhythm is a total mess Best wishes, Rainer aus dem Spring IS department, development Tel.: +49 211-5296-355 Fax.: +49 211

[LUTE] Re: Greensleeves - Poulton

My very old copy of the Diana Poulton tutor gives it as the version from the William Ballet Lute MS and I assume it to be a faithful transcription. Eric Crouch On 4 Jun 2007, at 11:34, Stephen Kenyon wrote: > Me again again. Does the Greensleeves version from Diano Poulton's

[LUTE] Greensleeves - Poulton

Me again again. Does the Greensleeves version from Diano Poulton's lute tutor come from a particular source or is it an amalgam of different sources? And does the rhythm in the first bars of the 3rd and 4th lines really go like that in historical sources? One is rather used to hearin

Re: Greensleeves (new variations)

i think it's reasonable to assume that henry really did write it. the arrogance displayed in some of the lines of "pastime" is pretty regal and distant. i sing greensleeves like this: alas my love you do me wrong to treat me so discourteously when i have suffered oh so long

Re: Greensleeves (new variations)

For a new and lovely set of variations on Greenselves by Christoph Dalitz, go to Taco Walstra's ABC archives at http://staff.science.uva.nl/~walstra/ABCArchive Look under Renaissance Lute/ Dalitz. He has two other pieces there, btw, one of which is a fine set of variations on "Happy Birthday".

Re: Greensleeves

Hi Jon, you are certainly right in saying that you can play that tune like any other on its own and enjoy it. And anybody familiar with it will recognize and enjoy, also. You can do that with any melody. When I said it cannot stand on its own, I should rather have put it more distinct. What I had i

Re: Greensleeves

#x27;m afraid I know only one Greensleeves melody (although it has a slight variant in an English carol called "What Child is This". But when you refer to the two as trebles to a certain ground then it tells me you are looking specifically at lute music, and the interplay of treble and gr

Re: Greensleeves

"Jon Murphy" schrieb: > Who cares as to the origins of such a melody, it can stand on its own. well, I was under the impression it was clear that it cannot. Those two Green Sleeves :) I named are trebles to certain grounds. Neither stands on its own. > Who cares is too s

Re: Greensleeves

i thought it was mexican in origin - something to do with guacamole. "and thus i made...a small vihuela from the shell of a creepy crawly..." - Don Gonzalo de Guerrero (1512), "Historias de la Conquista del Mayab" by Fra Joseph of San Buenaventura. go to: http://www.charango.cl/paginas/quienin

Re: Greensleeves

Who cares as to the origins of such a melody, it can stand on its own. (And can be smaltzy on its own, it has had that same fate as the melody of Danny Boy/Londonderry Air in that it can be played with intrinsic melodic beauty, or can be played to the groundlings). Who cares is too strong, one shou

Re: Greensleeves

And then there is "one" (whatever the meaning of "one" might be) by Francis Cutting -- Julian Bream plays it on "The Woods so Wild" sandwiched between "da-di-da didi-da"s; it's in the Noad Renaissance guitar book ... Peter. On 15 Mar 2005, "Mathias Rösel" wrote: > > I just know the one that 'eve

Re: Greensleeves (fwd)

the second one should read 3 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 3 1 2 2 2 2 43 1 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 2 1 1 1 e f e e | d b g a b | c b c c | h g# E || e f e e | d b g a b | c b a g# 1 1 11 1 2 2 2 a b g# | a a e c# a As I said, both are trebles for the passamezzo ground that was popular aroun

Re: Greensleeves

> I just know the one that 'everyone' plays, da-di-da didi-da di da, > didi-da-di-da didi-da-di-da, etc., that one. I suppose you think of 2 4 2 3 1 2 4 2 4 2 3 1 2 2 2 2 4 2 4 a | c d | e f e | d b | g | a b c | d e c | b g# |E (1 = quaver, 2 = crotchet, 3 = dotted crotch

Re: Greensleeves

Roman Turovsky wrote: > His name was A(dalbert?) Noney-Moose. He had a farm where Rayne's Park now > stands. And here I thought it was Hey Nonny Mouse, but maybe that was the other one? ;-) More seriously, as far as I know the first reference is in the Stationers Register for 1580. There is a

Greensleeves

Hi Mathias, That there are two versions is also news to me. I just know the one that 'everyone' plays, da-di-da didi-da di da, didi-da-di-da didi-da-di-da, etc., that one. If there are two versions, who wrote them, or are they both, as RT wittily suggests, anon? Cheers Tom Beck -- To get on

Re: Greensleeves

> I do have a question, the old chestnut, I know, but is it known who wrote > Greensleeves? please specify which one. I've across at least two different tunes or, rather, grounds which bore that name. -- Cheers, Mathias -- To get on or off this list see list informat

Re: Greensleeves

> > I do have a question, the old chestnut, I know, but is it known who wrote > Greensleeves? Some say Henry VIII, another says Dowland (that one was new to > me, > not that it signifies a great deal), and other countless candidates have been > named. I've looked in Grove

Greensleeves

stretch as required when the LF is stuck to the sound board. I do have a question, the old chestnut, I know, but is it known who wrote Greensleeves? Some say Henry VIII, another says Dowland (that one was new to me, not that it signifies a great deal), and other countless candidates have been n