Hi Ed,
| Speaking of which, I couldn't figure out how to download McFeely's
| pictures in one swoop. Everything else is in PDF.
I thought you could find her collection in a folder of JPGs, but haven't
looked lately.
| I'm so glad you mentioned this. I just bought a WONDERFUL John
| Rollins alto
The Boston Museum of Fine Arts has a photo of the Andreas Berr lute
online at
http://www.mfa.org/artemis/fullrecord.asp?oid=51267did=600
Regards,
Daniel Heiman
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:23:27 -0600 Michael Thames
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Vance,
snip
. The Berr is a very elegant tear drop
Hi Ed,
| Speaking of which, I couldn't figure out how to download McFeely's
| pictures in one swoop. Everything else is in PDF.
I thought you could find her collection in a folder of JPGs, but haven't
looked lately.
I can download one picture at a time by dragging them to the desktop,
but how
that's why I downloaded Alfonso's collection, although it took ages on my
old messerschmidt PC. (It's an old Siemens =])
But at least those Messerschmidt PCs are nice and compact. :-)
What a good idea and fine collection Alfonso! Together with the pictures
McFeely's posted, it's excellent
Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: G.R. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: Iconography (was:The Right Hand Revisited)
that's why I downloaded Alfonso's collection, although it took ages on my
old messerschmidt PC. (It's an old
said it
could not.
Vance Wood.
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: Iconography (was:The Right Hand Revisited
I think a lot of the Lutes we use today are overly large. When my Lute was
built, the first efforts of a friend and myself at doing this, it was
decided, after looking at a lot of Iconography, that the Lutes represented
were quite a bit smaller than those popular today. This conclusion was
, November 22, 2003 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: Iconography (was:The Right Hand Revisited)
Hi Michael:
Interesting observation about this conversion. I trust your judgment and
opinion on this issue as a builder. However you might want to brace
yourself for an onslaught from one of the members
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From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: Iconography (was:The Right Hand Revisited)
I think a lot of the Lutes we use today are overly large. When my Lute
was
built, the first efforts of a friend
At 9:03 PM +0100 19/11/03, G.R. Crona wrote:
I was captivated by Bartolomeo Passarotti's 1576 painting. (Pic. 29 in the
collection) It says anno iubilei bon 1576. There is also some music there in
the background, and the lute looks like an ~60 cm. mensur instrument.
There's some unreadable text
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Dear Craig,
Many thanks. That's extremely useful. You can see clearly how the
right-hand index finger follows through its stroke past the
thumbnail. It is very instructive for anyone wishing to understand
thumb
To play historically, whatever that means, presumably involves
understanding the full historical picture. The more I learn, the
wider that picture gets.
The more I look at paintings the wider the picture gets. I wish I
knew more about art history: were the subjects models? how accurate
were the
issue.
Vance Wood.
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From: Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vance Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 5:07 AM
Subject: Re: The Right Hand Revisited
I have found some strong advantages to playing the thumb out
: The Right Hand
Revisited
11/16/2003 08:16
PM
is there any site with a description of the
several right hand techniques?
I recommend: http://www.xs4all.nl/~amarin/Page1.html Alfonso
Marin's collection of lute related pictures. A picture is worth a
thousand words.
cheers,
--
Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
It would be very difficult to play much of the
later music with larger lutes (10+ courses) with thumb under -- you can't get
to the lower courses as easily.
I don't understand this. How does the hand position make a difference
on the deep bass courses? I am stretching to the max to hit the
' is purely
a matter of personal preference.
Craig
From: Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The Right Hand Revisited
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:13:57 +0900
is there any site with a description of the
several right hand techniques?
I recommend: http
Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 3:00 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: The Right Hand Revisited
You can see an animation of Jacob Heringman's right hand playing
with 'thumb
under' technique on the home page of his website
www.heringman.com. You just
move your mouse
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From: Ron Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:18 AM
Subject: FW: The Right Hand Revisited
This is the old chestnut which comes out every year!
When I joined this list around 7-8 years ago, I was corrected
In a message dated 11/17/03 10:08:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You can see an animation of Jacob Heringman's right hand playing with
'thumb
under' technique on the home page of his website www.heringman.com.
You can also find video clips (no sound!) showing
to admit, due to an auto accident, I have concentrated on =
resolving these old issues.
Vance Wood.
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Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: The Right Hand Revisited
Hi Vance,
I'm going to try
from people the better, even if there is some
duplication of thought.
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From: Jason Kortis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: The Right Hand Revisited
I've never played thumb in or thumb under
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To: Lute List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: The Right Hand Revisited
I've never played thumb in or thumb under or whatever it may
be called,
but does it really facilitate the thumb-index alternation of FAST
scalar
runs? It would great if someone could
I know we beat this subject to death around here but I see the Lute world
once again in transition. My Question is: Does anyone on this list play
thumb out, or know of anyone who plays thumb out and is there any reputable
player doing so? Has anyone done any serious research on this issue out
Dear Vance (and the List),
you asked:
I know we beat this subject to death around here but I see the Lute world
once again in transition. My Question is: Does anyone on this list play
thumb out, or know of anyone who plays thumb out and is there any reputable
player doing so? Has anyone
Vance Wood at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to see some serious Lute players
ferret out the differences instead of condemning the practice straight out.
I have found some strong advantages to playing the thumb out that are not
possible, at least in my mind, with thumb in.
You must be
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