Re: Panmure

respected affected RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > > Hi all, > I transcribed a song by Campion but hit a snag: what is the last word of > the song? > see: http://cbsr26.ucr.edu/wlkfiles/Publications/Campion_14.html > Alain > > > > > To get on or off this list

Re: Panmure

I didn't see the right half. Looks like a misspelled VENTURE. RT > respected > affected > RT > __ > Roman M. Turovsky > http://polyhymnion.org/swv > >> >> Hi all, >> I transcribed a song by Campion but hit a snag: what is the last word of >> the song? >> see: http://cbsr26.ucr.edu/wl

Re: Carbon fiber strings

For that matter carbon is NEVER Used for the bass strings anyway. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban > Agreed. For my purposes, tuning stability and a tone quality that's compatible > with the treble strings is more of a concern than length of sustain in the > bass. > > Eric Hansen > [EMAIL P

Re: Carbon fiber strings

I stand corrected, even if I didn't include long lutes into consideration. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > > U... > > I use it for the fourteenth course of my theorbo. Gut was a bit too muddy > sounding and the carbon matches the tone of the other diapasons n

Re: Carbon fiber strings

A new axe of yours? RT > > A week ago, I had a newly built swan-neck (after Martin Hoffmann) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Arto: Carbon fiber strings

Do not not forget the enormous proliferation in the 18th centyry of ARCHCITTERNS as well, and some of them were called archlutes. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv >> UMI Research Press Ann Arbor Michigan by Tharald Borgir, it is stated >> that the archlute increased

Re: non-lute message

> But at least America still stands as an example of Democracy. In a truly > fascist country the ruling party might visit a Night of the Long Knives > against their opponents much as the SA did during Hitler's time. I have faith > that won't happen here because at the core of our being we, the Amer

Re: non-lute message

> Liberals do not hate George Bush, In fact, it is useless to hate a figurehead, a remote-controlled device (BlueTooth technology). RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: non-lute message

> But at least America still stands as an example of Democracy. In a truly > fascist country the ruling party might visit a Night of the Long Knives > against their opponents Yep. A perfect example of SCA historicism RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban much as the SA did during Hi

Re: non-lute messages

We, orange people, don't like them royalty. There is nothing more obnoxious than "noblesse du sangue" in general. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > Yeah. What Her Highness said! > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Caroline Usher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>

sarmaticae antiquae coactae

BTW, if anyone is interested in learning to play in 5/4: the sarmatica count is up to 51, and the last item is in that unusual meter. http://polyhymnion.org/torban/torban4.html Enjoy, RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: non-lute message

> Dear Carlos and All: > If you think about it for a moment, fascism, not Islamic militance, is > what most accurately defines the Iraq insurgency, Not for long. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/in

Re: sarmaticae antiquae coactae

> BTW, if anyone is interested in learning to play in 5/4: the sarmatica count And please, do NOT ever refer to me as the Count of Sarmatia. RT > is up to 51, and the last item is in that unusual meter. > http://polyhymnion.org/torban/torban4.html > Enjoy, > RT > > > > To get on or off this lis

Re: non-lute messages

> Please stop. > *** > Caroline Usher > Dowager Empress, I am reminded of an old children's poem by the great Mayakovsky who wrote in his "Zoo": "I'll show you a Lion, Here, take a look: No longer a Czar of animals he is just a Chairman." RT To get on or off t

Re: Not getting it

Please stop. *** Caroline Usher Dowager Empress, >>> I am reminded of an old children's poem by the great Mayakovsky who >>> wrote in >>> his "Zoo": >>> "I'll show you a Lion, >>> Here, take a look: >>> No longer a Czar of animals >>> he is just a

Re: sarmaticae antiquae coactae

>> And please, do NOT ever refer to me as the Count of Sarmatia. > > But the new "Queen" of Ukraina (prime minister) seems to be a pretty > beautiful lady... ;) Congrats... > Arto Indeed, and THERE WERE AT LEAST 3 LUTENISTS at the barricades. RT http://polyhymnion.org To get

Re: non-lute message

Ditto the loser, but sometimes the winner rises to the occasion. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > > "the winner of an election usually is the least qualified candidate for the > job" > > Thomas > > Am Donnerstag, 27. Januar 20

Re: non-lute messages

> > What Caroline means is that the recent outburst of absolutely-non-lute > messages sucks. You have no idea how much... RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban > > I second that opinion. > g > > On 27.01.2005, at 22:16, Roman Turovsky wrote

Re: sarmaticae antiquae coactae

; a WMD for lutes? > > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Roman Turovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "LUTE-LIST" > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:05 PM > Subject: sarmaticae antiquae coactae > > >> BTW, if anyone is interested in learnin

Re: sarmaticae antiquae coactae

I suppose some will want to check the sarmaticae with a Geiger counter. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > > ??? 5/4? Doesn't this count as a "non-lute message" a WMD for lutes? > > >> BTW, if anyone is interested in learning to play in 5/4: the sarmatica >> coun

Re: non-lute messages

Motion passed, on the show of hands. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > At 04:01 PM 1/27/2005, Gernot Hilger wrote: >> What Caroline means is that the recent outburst of absolutely-non-lute >> messages sucks. >> >> I second that opinion. >> g > > > Here's a third.

Re: non-lute message

> 5. Rampant sexism. Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and the > national culture were male-dominated, Not to mention music composition, and lute music composition in particular. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.

Kremsmuenster pdf

It will be later today at http://freez.1gb.ru/music/masaccio/intavolature/KREMSMU3.PDF RT > Hi Roman, > I remember that you have talked in the lute-list about the (or some?) > Kresmünster mss, that are being spread as pdf. > Do you know, where I can get hold of them? > > Best > Markus > > >

Re: Robert Barto in NYC

>> For those in the City and the Vicinity: >> Barto plays Weiss >> St. Luke's Lutheran Church >> 308 W46th St., New York City >> Tickets: $15, $10 for seniors, students, etc. >> Program (reflects the forthcoming Naxos' SLWeiss vol. 7): >> Sonata 15 in Bb major >> Sonata 36* in d minor >> Sonata

Re: Robert Barto in NYC

>> For those in the City and the Vicinity: >> Barto plays Weiss >> St. Luke's Lutheran Church >> 308 W46th St., New York City >> Tickets: $15, $10 for seniors, students, etc. >> Program (reflects the forthcoming Naxos' SLWeiss vol. 7): >> Sonata 15 in Bb major >> Sonata 36* in d minor >> Sonata

Re: Robert Barto in NYC

> It was very good. I liked the E-flat from the musical downstairs right at To clarify: It came from "Tony & Tina's Wedding" at the adjacent theater.. > the end of the F-sharp minor Bouree. I'm glad he played the second half of > the Presto again as his encore. It was much more expressive than

Re: new pieces for lute - Zamboni

> "LGS-Europe" schrieb: >> Make that Lucca, 1718. Or that's what it says in my SPES facsimile anayway. >> Is there another print by Zamboni? > > no, you are right and I stand corrected. Nevertheless, Zamboni's > closeness to Weiss always striked my ears. I would say Core

Re: horizontal spacing in tablature

> My admitedly limited survey of historical printed sources shows a diferent > approach to horizontal spacing from that favored in modern staff notation. > > In modern staff notation notes are spaced horizontally in a manner intended to > improve the musicians perception of the time they occupy.

TORBAN

Today I had a good fortune to hold in my hands the Metropolitan Museum Torban, and it was a very interesting experience. It is a VERY FINE instrument, in spite of a few very crude alterations that someone made to it ca. 1880, in an attempt to remake into a Bandura. This individual removed the orig

Re: horizontal spacing in tablature

> > I also prefer to have spacing. It would be nice to have the possibility of > changing the grade of it. > Unfortunately that isn't possible in django and a little bit uncomfortable in > fronimo at the moment. In Django you can have either uniform proportional spacing automatically, or entirely

Re: horizontal spacing in tablature

> its final form for printing as you have it in mind. > Being able to integrate a digital image in the program also makes it a > lot easier, more reliable and less physically painful to key because you > don't have to turn your head every other second. I have 2 monitors, so turning my head is not a

Re: horizontal spacing in tablature

> Well, there is another thing that keeps my going: playing with the > software to create some really bad music... You can check my latest > example of this at > http://cbsr26.ucr.edu/wlkfiles/Publications/Prelude/Prelude_orch.html - > A prelude for archlute, bandoneon, cello, bass and tinkle bell

Re: Music stands

> On the other hand, we mustn't forget that some artists at some > periods used curved mirrors and the camera obscura to paint something > that was very much like a photograph, although certainly not a > snapshot. Ed, this "theory" is already being debunked at the highest level. It is so full of ho

LIEDERKREIS

I have just posted Beethoven's famous "SCHOTTISCHE TRINKLIED" with my baroque lute accompaniment in the RUSSIAN section at the http://www.polyhymnion.org/lieder/russian.html The Russian text was written in 1920's by Andrej Globa, ostensibly a "translation" from the original Lowlands Scots. In this

LIEDERKREIS

I have just posted Beethoven's famous "SCHOTTISCHE TRINKLIED" with my baroque lute accompaniment in the RUSSIAN section at the http://www.polyhymnion.org/lieder/russian.html The Russian text was written in 1920's by Andrej Globa, ostensibly a "translation" from the original Lowlands Scots. In this

Re: Antwort: Re: horizontal spacing in tablature

> -The attitudes of software developers are very divergent on the question > of interchange: they go from full cooperation to complete refusal an > denial. My position is that if this serves the interests of the users, > then it should be good. Also, if the owner of the software can be seen > to ow

Re: Lute Editing Programmes

> Dana Emery's re-emergance onto the lutenet has reminded me of a quetion I've > > been meaning to ask for ages. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what > > programmes to use for editing tablature? (On a Mac?)>> > > I use Sibelius and love it, and have learned to do basically what I want wi

Re: Antwort: left hand thumb to stop bass notes

> As to the use of the LH thumb to stop strings. In order to do this it is > necessary to couch the neck in the palm of the left hand. If this was an > occasional event the musician was required to make this shift and then shift > back to the more raised fingers anchored thumb position. I find t

Re: Antwort: left hand thumb to stop bass notes

> One thing to bear in mind when looking at 16th-century portrayals of > lutenists is the character of the lutes and their necks. If the neck is > narrow, as on a five- or six-course lute, with an "elliptical" shape, the > neck naturally settles in the "V" between the thumb and forefinger. For > th

Re: Antwort: Re: horizontal spacing in tablature

> To illustrate the point, try to convert the absolute notes into Midi > values. You have to specify the start and stop event for each note. The > start event is easy, the flags in the tablature tell you that. Stop > events for one or more notes that follow each other on the same course > are easy

Re: lute siting

It was played by JMPoirier, who IS left handed. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > ...in "Tous les Matins du Monde" there was a brief shot of an ensemble > in which the theorbo, viewed from the back, was being played > "left-handed" ?! Good question. Some are mo

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: left hand thumb to stop bass notes

o play on our lutes. > > Thomas > > > > > > Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> am 15.02.2005 04:13:59 > > An:James A Stimson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Kopie: , <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Thema: Re: Antwort: left hand t

Re: Lute Editing Programmes

Can the results be seen, somewhere? RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > I solved all those issues in my software, but it took lots of extra > programming, I > dont wonder that others havent bothered. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.

Re: Lute Editing Programmes

> Hi Benjamin, > > I use Finale 2004 and have great results. I've been using the program since > version 3.0 and find it quite easy to use. The version I have now let's me > create templates for any number of strings and tunings and prints out > beautifully. Does the include Baroque Lute? RT

Re: Antwort: Re: left hand thumb to stop bass notes

Come to think of it, although I haven't really studied this, but I recall noticing that in my books on art, in NorthEuropean painting lutes tend to be smaller than in SouthernEuropean ones. I guess more sunlight gives more growth hormones. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org

SARMATICAE ANTIQUAE NOVAE.....

...sunt LXVII! Audite, filii: http://polyhymnion.org/torban/torban4.html RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: left hand thumb to stop bass notes

> so play the chord this guy here is fingering. (Bb on the 6th course, E on > the the 5th, C on the 3rd assuming a ren- lute in G) Which fingers on your > right hand would you use? > * The right hand doesn't seem to pluck the strings this guy is fingering > (he seems to pluck the 2nd and 4th strin

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: left hand thumb to stop bass notes

he right hand doesn't seem to pluck the strings this guy is fingering >>> (he seems to pluck the 2nd and 4th string ) ... > > Roman Turovsky: >> That doesn't mean much. His right hand might have plucked and the left >> lagged. > > We seem to be talking about t

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: left hand thumb to stopbass notes

ould be a rather odd chord for that. >>>> >>>> As already mentioned by others: >>>> It's well possible that the guy of the picture in question just >>> "posed" and >>>> the position of his left hand fingers are ju

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: left handthumb to stopbass notes

> Thomas, > On closer inspection, of that painting, one can notice, the 6th course > riding off the fingerboard, That is normal, given the distortion suggesting foreshortening. This (and the lute being undersized) is not photographic, but is justified for various visual/compositional reasons. Mind

Re: composers style, analysing for

> To take an analogy from visual arts: If a painting is defined to be > painted by Rembrandt, many can see the artistic values. If after a couple > of years it is proofed that the painting was not by Rembrandt, the > artistic value diminishes - not to speak about the economical value... Not necessa

Re: composers style, analysing for

> Da Vinci argued that painting was superior to sculpture on the grounds > that sculpture was messy and dirty and involved generally more muscle > effort than painting. I agree: by the same token Baroque Lute is superior to Renaissance one. > I have always had a problem with the holy sanctity of h

Re: composers style, analysing for

> Picasso transformed the wannabe-art of Africa into a valuable commodity > in the West. Africans just kept on doing what they had being doing all > along - at least for a while. Lots of people get paid a lot of money to > let you know what you should see and think about when you see a "real" > wor

Re: Sautscheck portraits?

> Roman, you and I have not always seen eye to eye, but yesterday I viewed > your website devoted to your own paintings. What a talented artist you are > (of, course, you don't need me to tell you that)! It made we wonder if you > have ever discovered or painted portraits of the Sautscheck clan? >

Re: maiden flight

> I just returned from my first real continuo gig ever (in an all Monteverdi > programme and still on my 8-course) and I must say, I began to feel what > people like about playing continuo. It was such a great joy and it gave me the > creeps for the first time in a concert I was involved myself. :-

Re: Sautscheck portraits?

> Indeed he is - just this morning I thought it would be nice if Roman would > write something about lute paintings for one of our societies journals - > although I disagree with him in certain points I am very sure he would have > to say much interesting. That would be like putting an EasternEurop

Re: Sautscheck portraits?

>> In recent years 2 of my >> Italian friends (one of them a lutenist) got rid of their wives, but held on >> to the paintings they bought from me > > I don't think I want to know what they do with the paintings. You must in close proximity to San Bernardino.. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org

Re: urinals and publishers (Re: composers style Š)

> bit is, to put your tools to a good use. And to use the proper tools. In > that respect I agree with da Vinci, extending his line of thought to dismiss > oil painting in favour of Chinese ink on paper works and dismiss all > painting in favour of music and dismiss all physical music in favour of

Re: urinals and synchronicity on the A-flat/G sharp dilemma

The last paragraph (italicized) is PRICELESS. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > From: Alain Veylit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:29:02 -0800 > To: danyel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: Re: urinals and synchronicity on t

Re: sacred music for baroque lute

> Have you ever seen the Beyer print? I wouldn't call this sacred music - it's > simple songs with more or less funny/instructive lyrics (A while ago I > published "Der Blinde und der Lahme" on my page - maybe I should but it back > there). > > Anyway - as you mention - there is enough sacred mate

Re: urinals and synchronicity on the A-flat/G sharp dilemma

> Roman, > I have many friends in the sciences and I have always loved the titles > of scientific articles for their sheer poetic impact. Hence the title of my very first HTML page. It was called "The Sautscheck Saga: An experiment in paramusicology", to parody one of Tim Crawford's papers. RT _

Re: urinals and publishers (Re: composers style S)

> Needless to say, I much prefer the little Feldman said to the lot others > have to say all the time... > BTW: how can one know too much? Did you go through that experience and how > did you get rid of your learning so successfully? > danyel I didn't say I was very successful in liberating myself

Re: Liuto Concertato

>> I just finished entering a new piece of music for my homepage. >> There was a discussion about it recently on this list. Jerzy Zak thinks it's >> by S.L.Weiss. I cannot follow his opinion but it's an interesting concert and >> I am sure you'll like it. > I would say it is most probably certainly

FW: wound basses

From: "Michael Thames" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Benjamin, and all, I'm sure you will get some advice from others concerning = historical strings, on ren. and early baroque lutes. However, I would like to throw a wrench into the works by sharing = this corespondence I recieved today from Kla

Re: Campion's references to deity.

> When Thomas Campion referred to "the highest", as in #8 of "First Book of > Ayres", did he intend a strict reference to a sentient supreme being, or > would he have allowed a "humanist" attitude, wherein it might mean the > best human standards? > > The reason I ask is that he, in the same stanz

Re: The 'perfect' instrument?

>> I have not thought this through, but wouldn't you run into problems >> if you modulate and then modulate back to the original key by a >> different route? > > This actually happens rather a lot in barbershop quartet singing. > Barbershoppers adjust intervals on the fly to get chords to "ring."

Re: Baroque guitar pdf files?

> There may be a bit of a problem about this as neither Fronimo nor Django > support some essential features of baroque guitar tablature - in particular > strumming. Alain Veylit was working on this problem with Django but I don't > know if he ever finally sorted it. I had an enormous problem pre

Re: making pdf files?

> >>> I wouldn't have a clue how to convert them to pdf files! > > You do it by 'printing' through a pdf printdriver, the result is a file rather > than paper with ink on it. Adobe Acrobat is one expensive way to get the > special > print driver; THere are other ways (Ghostscript et al being th

Re: Leipzig Musikinstrumenten-Museum P.S.

Ask Tim Burris: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > From: Benjamin Narvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 18:33:51 + (GMT) > To: Benjamin Narvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: Re: Leipzig Musikinstrumenten

OT FW: [banduraforum] Mariana Sadowska in Cleveland

For those lutenetters in Cleveland area who might be interested in something really extraordinary: Mariana Sadowska will be leading a singing workshop on Friday, April 8, 2005 from 7-10 p.m. The workshop will take place at the Old Parish Hall (6205 Detroit Avenue-part of the Cleveland Public Th

FW: Upcoming Concerts NYC

Saturday, March 12 8:00PM The New York Early Music Series Sacri e Divoti Affetti with Jennifer Lane, mezzo-soprano Grant Herreid, lute John Mark Rozendaal, cello Borys Medicky, harpsichord Works to include selection from Strozzi's "I Sacri Musicali Affetti" (Opus 5, 1655, Venice) and the recentl

OT: Mar'jana Sadovska in NYC

For those Lute-Netters in the NYC and the vicinity: Mar'jana Sadovska http://www.mo-productions.com/eng/marframe.html will sing tomorrow (3/9/05) evening at the Satalla club, 10pm.  Satalla is located at 37 West 26th St. (6th/Broadway) 212.576.1155 Hope to see you there. RT __ Roma

OT: Mar'jana Sadovska in NYC

For those Lute-Netters in the NYC and the vicinity: Mar'jana Sadovska http://www.mo-productions.com/eng/marframe.html will sing tomorrow (3/9/05) evening at the Satalla club, 10pm.  Satalla is located at 37 West 26th St. (6th/Broadway) 212.576.1155 Hope to see you there. RT __ Roma

Re: Continuo

JDoan mixed up Theorbo and Archlute. The tuning he gives for Theorbo is actually for Archlute. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > Regarding the theorbo's top range, aren't the top 6-courses tuned the > same as a G ren-lute? So, > At least according to this it is > ht

Re: Continuo

>> Regarding the theorbo's top range, aren't the top 6-courses tuned the >> same as a G ren-lute? So, >> At least according to this it is >> http://www.johndoan.com/instruments/harpguitar/tuning.html > > I'm not sure about the accuracy of this page. His TORBAN tuning is out of whack as well. RT

Re: Continuo

Regarding the theorbo's top range, aren't the top 6-courses tuned the same as a G ren-lute? So, At least according to this it is http://www.johndoan.com/instruments/harpguitar/tuning.html >>> I'm not sure about the accuracy of this page. >>> >>> >> His TORBAN tuni

Re: Interesting article

> I found this on Davd van Edwards' web site. It's reproduced from the original > article in Early Music, Vol. 4 No. 4 (October 1976). > > http://www.vanedwards.co.uk/spencer/html/spencer.htm > > Regards, > Craig Some ideas in the article are dated, such as deriving CHITARRONE fron KITHARA, while

Re: Continuo

>>> Also, short of having written tablature accompaniment for the d-min > lute (such as you have >>> for your lieder), is it at all common for people to read bass > figures with a d-min lute? >>> No, although some do, with historical precedent. I find the idea > preposterous and out of >>> chara

Re: Continuo

>>> Also, short of having written tablature accompaniment for the d-min >>> lute (such as you have for your lieder), is it at all common for people >>> to read bass figures with a d-min lute? >> No, although some do, with historical precedent. I find the idea >> preposterous and out of character

Re: Continuo

>> (An important thing to note, however, is that the new German theorbo was >> not used everywhere in Germanic lands, and that it existed side by side >> with the old Italian tuning as well. In Vienna, for instance, Conti was >> still playing with Italian tuning.) >> > the conti cantates publishe

Re: Continuo

> I think some of us here might want to disagree with your last sentence: > the basic tuning of the Dm lute is f'-d'-a-f-d-A, so if (as you say) ET > was needed for this tuning, it would also be needed for Ren lute, since > the 2nd to 4th courses are tuned the same. Using meantone temperaments > o

Re: Continuo

> Actually the Dm lute is very nice to accompany singers when played > correctly. It is a great continuo instrument, among other uses. > > Marion A proof, please. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > > On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Roman Turovsky wrote:

Re: Continuo

> Yes, regarding German continuo, perhaps the best informed modern discussion of > this is Tim Burris's PhD dissertation "Lute and Theorbo in Vocal music in 18th > Century Dresden: A Performance Practice Study" available from UMI. The below > is largely informed by that. > > It is absolutely cle

Re: Continuo

>> I think some of us here might want to disagree with your last sentence: >> the basic tuning of the Dm lute is f'-d'-a-f-d-A, so if (as you say) ET >> was needed for this tuning, it would also be needed for Ren lute, since >> the 2nd to 4th courses are tuned the same. Using meantone temperaments

Re: Continuo

s actually asking Marion to back up her statement with her own concerted efforts. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban > > Thomas > > Am Mittwoch, 9. März 2005 14:00 schrieb Roman Turovsky: >>> Actually the Dm lute is very nice to accompany singers when pla

Re: Continuo

The pudding's ingredients have to have certain quality. RT > > The proof of the pudding is in the eating. > M > > -Original Message- > From: Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Mar 9, 2005 5:00 AM > To: "Dr. Marion Ceruti" <[E

Re: Continuo

be on how much you are enjoying > the combination of ingredients. > MC > > -Original Message- > From: Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Mar 9, 2005 12:17 PM > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: Re: Continuo > > The pudding's ingredien

Re: Continuo

>> Roman M. Turovsky >> http://polyhymnion.org/swv >> >>> And when they do, you will know it by the great taste. >>> In this case, you will forget about the proof because >>> your attention will be on how much you are enjoying >>> the comb

Re: Continuo

If you take for granted the use of d-minor lute as a common continuo instrument: there is no reason to deny the same misapplication for the theorbe-de-pieces. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > From: Martyn Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > However, by evidence I meant

Re: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

>> I always thought that the problems are: >> 1. to get the minor third between the first and second/fourth and fifth >> courses into the tuning system and >> 2. doubling A-d-f in the high octave means doubling the trouble with >> tastinis and eliminating the possibility of slanting the frets. >> A

Re: Continuo

esthetic world. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv > > Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> Regarding the theorbo's top range, aren't the top 6-courses tuned the >>>>> same as a G ren-lute? So,

Re: Continuo

>> Back in the old country we say: "A spoonful of tar will ruin a barrel of >> honey". >> >> But then again, " A spoonful of honey helps the medicine go down, the >> medicine go down" > > And always remember that a bit of better butter makes a bitter batter better. > > Craig Don't make me use a

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> Roman wrote: >>> >>> And always remember that a bit of better butter makes a bitter batter >>> better. >>> >> Don't make me use a bat as a continuo instrument. > > I didn't know you played for the Yankees. > > Craig Whatever is necessary to apply to them Confederate SCAers. RT To get on o

Re: temperaments (was Continuo)

> It comes up every now and then. Many of us play in some sort of meantone > temperament. From very extreme 1/4 comma to not so mean 1/6 or 1/7 comma. > From very exact fretpositions with calculators and spreadsheets to adjusting > frets just by ear. It makes the music less boring (all those equal

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s using Baroque Lute for CONTINUO. Again, all misuse in the world has at least some historical precedence, but the latter cannot justify it. RT http://polyhymnion.org > > > Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Whilst, as you'll be aware, ther

Re: temperaments (was Continuo)

> On Thursday 10 March 2005 15:17, Roman Turovsky wrote: >> I am frankly not sure that the music that relies on MT for interest >> were a worthwhile endeavor. > > I am sure that the music that relies on MT for interest was and is a > worthwhile endeavour! > Arto You m

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> Better to use a bat as a continuo instrument than to use a continuo > instrument, such as a baroque lute, as a bat. > MC Some voices could cause a sane man to do that. RT -- http://polyhymnion.org/torban > >>> Back in the old country we say: "A spoonful of tar will ruin a barrel of >>> ho

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The lute (or myself, for that matter) is never "off bass". Some HIGH VOICES ARE, sometimes, ifyouacquiremydrift.. RT > There is nothing quite so lovely as a voice accompanied > by a baroque lute. Anyone who doesn't think so must > be way off bass. > MC > >> Better to use a bat as a continuo in

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>> I second that emotion. Recently A famous Jazz guy down in Santa Fe was >> demonstrating to me how perfectly his guitar played in tune and I fell >> asleep, but it might have been the jazz that put me under. >> Michael Thames >> A diminished scale in 1/4 comma would by just yummy. >> RT > I agree

Re: Pegs, revisited - ebony

> Anyone out there know a source for bone large enough to make pegs from? Yes. Matanya. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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