Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 12:36:50PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Andre> 2. Layouts. I think this could be a good place to put in some > Andre> export and probably even import information. E.g. in addition > Andre> to LatexT

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
> I can see that this is a complete different approach (more or less > orthogonal to what I was suggesting) > but am not quite sure how this would work once it is 'perfect'. > I try to describe my impression of the current philosophy, please > correct me if I am wrong: > > ,,If I want to have a

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
> There are other issues, the insets aren't supposed to be configured > from the textclasses. I am aware of this but I do not know how this situation arose. Is it just heritage? Given that layouts are powerful and everything on a sub-paragraph level is much more messy, I'd say it'd be nice to

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> Given that layouts are powerful and everything on a Andre> sub-paragraph level is much more messy, I'd say it'd be nice to Andre> be able to have sub-paragraph stuff in layouts, too. Is there Andre> any rationale behind the current

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
> Andre> Given that layouts are powerful and everything on a > Andre> sub-paragraph level is much more messy, I'd say it'd be nice to > Andre> be able to have sub-paragraph stuff in layouts, too. Is there > Andre> any rationale behind the current distinction? > > It is just that not everything ca

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> It is just that not everything can be done from a layout >> description. Andre> I doubt that, at least from a theoretical point of view. Andre> Of course I have no idea how this could be done practically... You mean for example tha

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 10:46:03AM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > There are other issues, the insets aren't supposed to be configured > > from the textclasses. > > I am aware of this but I do not know how this situation arose. > Is it just heritage? Partially it is heritage but I think tha

Lyx crashes with Alt+Enter

2000-01-06 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
Hi, this report should be for Lars, I think. Start a new document, press g or any other letter for that matter. Type Alt+Enter and ... lyx crashes reporting out of memory. Bellow are the message that result from running lyx -dbg key those are the final, since I

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
> That is true, one of my most expected features is a better inset, and also > the possibility to have general insets. Ok, suppose it were practically possible to configure such a general inset from a file (which I believe is at least theoretically possible). Would this be the prefered approac

Problem with ifstream::getc

2000-01-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars, When compiling lyxlyex.C and math_parser.C, I get lots of errors from dec cxx saying: cxx: Error: ../../lyx-devel/src/lyxlex.C, line 305: no instance of overloaded function "std::basic_istream::get [with charT=char, traits=std::char_traits]" matches the argument list

Re: News from the NT front

2000-01-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Ing" == Ing Roland Krause <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ing> Ok, here is something strange, I used the debugger to follow up Ing> on the crash on NT when lyx is started from the command line, Ing> i.e. not using Stephens startup scripts. I was able to locate the Ing> crash happening at lyxlo

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 12:23:00PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > That is true, one of my most expected features is a better inset, and also > > the possibility to have general insets. > > Ok, suppose it were practically possible to configure such a general inset > from a file (which I believ

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Jose" == Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jose> No related but... the major difficulty in importing docbook in Jose> lyx is the absence of a library to write the lyx format. Only Jose> the idea of writing lyx format without help scares. I have done Jose> this before

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
> Jose> No related but... the major difficulty in importing docbook in > Jose> lyx is the absence of a library to write the lyx format. Only > Jose> the idea of writing lyx format without help scares. I have done > Jose> this before with sgml2lyx, but I have lost the courage since > Jose> then..

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> Maybe there is a Better Thing. The current LyX format is far Andre> from being perfect. It works, yes, but it is not as simple as Andre> it could be and this is a major pain when it comes to Andre> interoperation with the rest of t

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Amir Karger
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 01:54:10PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Jose" == Jose Abilio Oliveira Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Jose> No related but... the major difficulty in importing docbook in > Jose> lyx is the absence of a library to write the lyx format. Only > Jose> t

Automake..

2000-01-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
I just checked out the latest CVS, started autogen.sh and got the following message automake: src/mathed/Makefile.am: `libmathed.o' is not a standard libtool library name The same for libinsets.o. make afterwards complains about finding "no rule to make target `support/libsupport.o' needed by

Re: Automake..

2000-01-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> I just checked out the latest CVS, started autogen.sh and got Andre> the following message Andre> automake: src/mathed/Makefile.am: `libmathed.o' is not a Andre> standard libtool library name Andre> The same for libinsets.o. And

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong
Andre Poenitz wrote: > Maybe there is a Better Thing. The current LyX format is far from being > perfect. It works, yes, but it is not as simple as it could be and this > is a major pain when it comes to interoperation with the rest of the > world. > > Switch to some XMLish .newlyx format, and pa

Linking libraries with SUN CC

2000-01-06 Thread Michael Schmitt
Hello, once again I would like to report a problem with SUN CC. Due to the strange handling of templates (their object code is placed in a special repository), SUN CC requires that it is called instead of ld and ar when linking programs and libraries. However, even if I set the environment variab

Re: Problem with ifstream::getc

2000-01-06 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars, | | When compiling lyxlyex.C and math_parser.C, I get lots of errors from | dec cxx saying: | | cxx: Error: ../../lyx-devel/src/lyxlex.C, line 305: no instance of overloaded | function "std::basic_istream::get [with charT=char,

Re: Automake..

2000-01-06 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I just checked out the latest CVS, started autogen.sh and got | the following message | | automake: src/mathed/Makefile.am: `libmathed.o' is not a standard libtool | library name | | The same for libinsets.o. This is due to a bug in automake, libtool

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
> Actually, why at the beginning LyX didn't write LaTeX directly but had > its own LyX format? I suppose that's because LaTeX is too complicated to > parse, right? The primary reason is that LyX and LaTeX are not the same. LyX uses a document model which, granted, is close to LaTeX, but it

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
Regarding the current discussion about the document model: At the moment, LyX supports linear paragraph, one-deep floats (footnotes), and insets. LyX does currently not support real nesting of content. I think of the problem like this: The document model is a tree. At the top, the root node is

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Amir Karger
On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 08:37:31PM +0100, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > > Actually, why at the beginning LyX didn't write LaTeX directly but had > > its own LyX format? I suppose that's because LaTeX is too complicated to > > parse, right? > [lots of erudite discussion snipped] > The

Re: Popups/Layouts

2000-01-06 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
> > and also, since Perl is a better text processor than C++, > > I thought Perl was a good-for-nothing write-only snail-speed language! I stay away from Perl, but the world is full of fools. > Well, my brother's a CS professor. When I was bragging at him about how > reLyX worked so well, as lo

Compilation problems

2000-01-06 Thread Michael Schmitt
Hello, SUN CC complains about a few more problems in the lyx-devel code dated Thu Jan 6 20:11:07 MET 2000. Please find a summary of necessary fixes below. Michael lyx_lex.h, line 16, add using std::istream; mathed/math_defs.h, line 32, add using std::istream; mathed/math_parser.C, line

Re: News from the NT front

2000-01-06 Thread Dr. Ing. Roland Krause
On Thu, 06 Jan 2000, you wrote: > XOpenIM is used to have proper handling of compose key. However, it > seems that X11R6.4 fix04 (??) has a bug which core dumps when XOpenIM > is called with NULL arguments. It might be what you are seeing. > > JMarc You could be right, XOpenIM is called with fo

Mime-type

2000-01-06 Thread Seak, Teng-Fong
After the discussion about LyX format, has anyone thought of registering lyx file as one of the MIME-type in IANA? Well, actually I don't see much advantage in the near future with such registration, except that it gives a standard calling and reserves .lyx as a well-known file extension for

Re: Problem with ifstream::getc

2000-01-06 Thread Michael Schmitt
Michael Schmitt wrote: > you must change the type of c to (signed) char. I don't know whether is > wanted but at least the compiler becomes quiet. > > Michael > > PS: A larger list of correction will follow soon. Oh my dear! My English becomes worse and worse. I feel ashamed for all those typo

Re: News from the NT front

2000-01-06 Thread Allan Rae
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Dr. Ing. Roland Krause wrote: > Now the big question is, what is different when XopenIM is called and > the code is started by the startup script, because the it will work. Could you forward a copy of the startup script? I'm sure this has been asked before but I can't seem to

support for modern istream in cvs

2000-01-06 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
I have put code that I think should make it possible to use lyx with modern istream, but I have also experienced dataloss when trying this outl Note that I have used a C++ lib in alpha state when doing this, so it might be perfect as it is, but be VERY careful, you might loose your documents...

Transition vs 1.1.x (was: support for modern istream in cvs)

2000-01-06 Thread Allan Rae
I'm glad I write really long emails. It gives me a chance to calm down as I get further into the document. I haven't cut or reworded any of my early comments because I still believe they need to be said. On 7 Jan 2000, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > I have put code that I think should make it po