RE: problems compiling lyx-1.1.6fix1

blackziggy Hi everybody! Last nigth i was trying to compile blackziggy lyx-1.1.6fix1 with gcc 2.95 compiler onto Mandrake 7.1, blackziggy but there were some errors: there not found iosfwd, blackziggy iostream, streambuf, map, iterator, sstream, utility and blackziggy more. JMarc Did you

Re: SUN CC 6.0 Update 1 and Purify

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Allan Rae wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Michael Schmitt wrote: In addition, there are a few errors which I have not been able to resolve. A stripped compile log is given in file "errorlog.gz". Allan, want to take a look at it??? It is not that terrible any more!

RE: Troule wit new Klyx

On 19-Apr-2001 Mirosaw Bocian wrote: Dear Sirs! Hello Miroslaw! Last time I'm installed new distribution of Linux Mandrake (7.2) with KDE - version 2.0 and new version of Klyx (2.0-1mdk.i586). ??? I'm really curious who worked on LyX to port it to KDE 2.x ;) directly to non postscript

lyxlist problem

Dear Developpers, Doing the tests for an indented list I discovered problem with the "standard" LyX list: Manual setting of the LabelString form within LyX works only on the first item of a list (this is due to the way a list is implemented in LaTeX). However, LyX allowes (separate)

RE: eliminating the splash screen

On 20-Apr-2001 Allan Rae wrote: Show it in the workarea when no buffers are open. Yes IMO this is a good idea! I'm quite annoyed with the behaviour of it right now it doesn't close even if I open a buffer right now! Jrgen --

Re: SUN CC 6.0 Update 1 and Purify

"Allan" == Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allan I haven't looked at what the public-private changes in Allan lyxparagraph.h are for or where the using std::signal is for in Allan lyx_main.C. A context diff would be easier to read :-) For the std::signal stuff, we already have a /*

Re: List of algorithms and Subfigures are broken

"Michael" == Michael Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Here is the assertion: Michael basic_stringcharT,traits,Allocator::npos): Assertion !(pos2 Michael len2) is not fulfilled. That's surprising, because the assertion is also present in lyxstring (which I use) and is not triggered.

Re: lyx on MAC OS X

"Giorgio" == Giorgio Zavarise [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Giorgio Hi I would like to know if there will be a version of lyx Giorgio also for MAC OSX. Due to the unix kernel of such operative Giorgio system it is perhaps not so difficult to do it. I am acutally Giorgio using Scientific Word, but

Re: mathed behaviour

"Andre" == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre I think a more suitable implementation of matrices and array Andre would involve a one-dimesional array (i.e. std::vector) of "row Andre structures", each holding another one-dimensional array of Andre "entries", an optional number, and

Re: mathed behaviour

On 20-Apr-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: If you are going to rewrite array support, would it make sense to share code with the tabular inset? At latex level, these are the same objects, after all. I understand that there will be many problem, but this is the "ideal" solution, after all.

Re: mathed behaviour

If you are going to rewrite array support, would it make sense to share code with the tabular inset? At latex level, these are the same objects, after all. I understand that there will be many problem, but this is the "ideal" solution, after all. In theory yes. In practice it'd probably

Re: SUN CC 6.0 Update 1 and Purify

Hi Allan, I don't know what is going on here. I disabled _all_ settings of SIGC_PARTIAL_SPEC (in all files). Nevertheless, the following test change in object_slot.h results in a compile error: #ifdef SIGC_CXX_PARTIAL_SPEC typedef R RType; sdfkdskfjdsfkdfk #else typedef typename

Re: mathed behaviour

Do I understand it right that arrays for mated: 1. Do not have visual (border)lines I have not seen any so far... Moreover, multiline math is conceptually somewhat simpler than "real tables" since it does not need to handle multicolumn cells. 2. Instead of having a InsetText they would

Re: SUN CC 6.0 Update 1 and Purify

Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | /** | * Sun's CC can't connect to an inherited method so we have this little | * concrete instance to give it something to hook onto. | */ | FormBaseBI::hide() { | ::hide(); | } FormBaseBI::hide() { FormBaseDeperecated::hide(); } --

Re: mathed behaviour

"Andre" == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do I understand it right that arrays for mated: 1. Do not have visual (border)lines Andre I have not seen any so far... Well, if you look at the deinition of the array environment, it is the same thing as a tabular, except that nobody

Validate() and algorithm

Concerning the problem of non-working algorithms: Lars, how do you plan to solve the fact that algorithm.sty has to be included for algorithms? It is supposed to be handled by InsetFloat::Validate(), but how? Also, the insettoc should enable algorithm when there is a list of algorithms. This is

Re: Unicode (was Re: enormous)

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 09:21:53AM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: Hmm... although it would save memory for those of us working primarily with langauges that only use Latin-1 ASCII, it does make rendering trickier. You'd basically have to convert from utf-8 to full Unicode on-the-fly, as

Re: mathed behaviour

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:18:30AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: 2. The cursor is broken when it is inside a macro instance. How? When you move into a macro, the cursor doesn't appear where it should. In fact, it is drawn completely outside the math inset (and sometimes the screen scroll to a

Re: Validate() and algorithm

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Concerning the problem of non-working algorithms: Lars, how do you | plan to solve the fact that algorithm.sty has to be included for | algorithms? It is supposed to be handled by InsetFloat::Validate(), | but how? actally, I planned to ditch

Re: Validate() and algorithm

"Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars Concerning the problem of non-working algorithms: Lars, how do Lars you | plan to solve the fact that algorithm.sty has to be Lars included for | algorithms? It is supposed to be

Re: Bug with inseterror

"Dekel" == Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dekel When trying to open an insererror, LyX crashes. Bug found and fixed. BTW, people using lyxstring did not see it because lyxstring::substr(i) does not assert on isize() but i=size(). What is the right thing to do? JMarc

Re: Validate() and algorithm

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars actally, I planned to ditch support for algorithm.sty, and use | Lars the float.sty directly instead. and the current float support is | Lars supposed to do this. | | Then this has to be done before 1.2.0. I thought it already done. | And

Re: List of algorithms and Subfigures are broken

"Michael" == Michael Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Very simple (I don't use Redhat BTW): Open a new document, Michael insert a list of algorithms, export to dvi, click on the new Michael error box - crash Michael Here is the assertion: As I wrote elsewhere, this is fixed in cvs

Console warning

Does this message mean anything to you? In ClipBoard [clipboard.c 276] Unknown target: 356 Michael == Michael Schmittphone: +49 451 500 3725 Institute for Telematics

Re: mathed behaviour

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:18:30AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: 2. The cursor is broken when it is inside a macro instance. When you move into a macro, the cursor doesn't appear where it should. In fact, it is drawn completely outside the math inset (and sometimes the screen scroll to a

Re: Bug with inseterror

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Dekel When trying to open an insererror, LyX crashes. | | Bug found and fixed. BTW, people using lyxstring did not see it | because lyxstring::substr(i) does not assert on isize() but |

Re: Console warning

Michael Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Does this message mean anything to you? | | In ClipBoard [clipboard.c 276] Unknown target: 356 I have seen it when pasting to/from emacs, but I think you can just disregard it. Should perhaps be reported to the xforms list though. -- Lgb

Re: Bug with inseterror

"Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars Dekel When trying to open an insererror, LyX crashes. | | Bug Lars found and fixed. BTW, people using lyxstring did not

Re: lyx.org domain fee

Lars Gullik Bjnnes wrote: The lyx.org domain is up for renewal, and I am going to be so bold that I ask is some faithful user will be willing to sponsor the LyX project with this. The fee covers two years and is 70$ US. If someone steps forward, I will send the information needed to

Help: Mathed is broken seriously

Hello, 1. open a new document 2. change to math mode 3. enter "N \in " As soon as you start entering the text, LyX crashes. Any help is greatly appreciated (please let me know when it is fixed because I need to write some formula very urgently) Many, many thanks in advance, Michael

Re: lyx.org domain fee

"Garst R. Reese" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | The fee covers two years and is 70$ US. | | If someone steps forward, I will send the information needed to that | individual. | I can handle that. | Garst Ok, Garst won this one. I'll send the needed information privately. -- Lgb

Re: Help: Mathed is broken seriously

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Michael Schmitt wrote: Hello, 1. open a new document 2. change to math mode 3. enter "N \in " As soon as you start entering the text, LyX crashes. Any help is greatly appreciated (please let me know when it is fixed because I need to write some formula very

Re: some compiler warnings

"Angus" == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Angus For what it's worth, I get the following warnings when Angus compiling current CVS. Angus Fixed in cvs. JMarc

Re: Help: Mathed is broken seriously

1. open a new document 2. change to math mode 3. enter "N \in " I can not reproduce this (CVS head + mathed63.diff) Does it crash immediately after the \ is typed? If so, it is probably due to the math cursor getting invalid for some (unknown) reason. Since this "feature" appeared during

Re: eliminating the splash screen

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Allan Rae wrote: Show it in the workarea when no buffers are open. Allan. (ARRae) I believe Michael Schmitt already suggested this ... feel free to do it ... john -- "Do you mean to tell me that "The Prince" is not the set textbook for CS1072 Professional Issues

RE: eliminating the splash screen

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote: On 20-Apr-2001 Allan Rae wrote: Show it in the workarea when no buffers are open. Yes IMO this is a good idea! I'm quite annoyed with the behaviour of it right now it doesn't close even if I open a buffer right now! Jürgen ??? My fix

RE: Tabular speed

On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote: In my profile the top was GetCellInset() and I thought probably we should have some sort of iterator over this (but I don't know how to realize one which would work), maybe this would be faster. yes, this is what I get too ... p.s. can't at least

Re: Help: Mathed is broken seriously

"Andre" == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. open a new document 2. change to math mode 3. enter "N \in " Andre I can not reproduce this (CVS head + mathed63.diff) Andre Does it crash immediately after the \ is typed? If so, it is Andre probably due to the math cursor getting

lyx.org domain fee

The lyx.org domain is up for renewal, and I am going to be so bold that I ask is some faithful user will be willing to sponsor the LyX project with this. The fee covers two years and is 70$ US. If someone steps forward, I will send the information needed to that individual. Tia, --

general remark on implicit extra features

Dear all, I hope entering the right mailing list and to not rising old stuff with my remark: I noted, that often implicit vspaces and skips are inserted into the tex translate. I think them to be rather annoying. Of course this does not have to be true for other people, but It should be possible

Re: general remark on implicit extra features

Thomas == Thomas Kamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thomas I hope entering the right mailing list and to not rising old Thomas stuff with my remark: I noted, that often implicit vspaces and Thomas skips are inserted into the tex translate. I think them to be Thomas rather annoying. Of course this

RE: problems compiling lyx-1.1.6fix1

>> blackziggy> Hi everybody! Last nigth i was trying to compile >> blackziggy> lyx-1.1.6fix1 with gcc 2.95 compiler onto Mandrake 7.1, >> blackziggy> but there were some errors: there not found iosfwd, >> blackziggy> iostream, streambuf, map, iterator, sstream, utility and >> blackziggy> more. >

Re: SUN CC 6.0 Update 1 and Purify

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Michael Schmitt wrote: > > In addition, there are a few errors which I have not been able to > > resolve. A stripped compile log is given in file "errorlog.gz". Allan, > > want to take a look at it??? It is not that terrible any more!

RE: Troule wit new Klyx

On 19-Apr-2001 Miros³aw Bocian wrote: > Dear Sirs! Hello Miroslaw! > Last time I'm installed new distribution of Linux Mandrake (7.2) with KDE - version >2.0 > and new version of Klyx (2.0-1mdk.i586). ??? I'm really curious who worked on LyX to port it to KDE 2.x ;) > directly to non

lyxlist problem

Dear Developpers, Doing the tests for an indented list I discovered problem with the "standard" LyX list: Manual setting of the LabelString form within LyX works only on the first item of a list (this is due to the way a list is implemented in LaTeX). However, LyX allowes (separate)

RE: eliminating the splash screen

On 20-Apr-2001 Allan Rae wrote: > Show it in the workarea when no buffers are open. Yes IMO this is a good idea! I'm quite annoyed with the behaviour of it right now it doesn't close even if I open a buffer right now! Jürgen --

Re: SUN CC 6.0 Update 1 and Purify

> "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Allan> I haven't looked at what the public->private changes in Allan> lyxparagraph.h are for or where the using std::signal is for in Allan> lyx_main.C. A context diff would be easier to read :-) For the std::signal stuff, we already have a

Re: List of algorithms and Subfigures are broken

> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Here is the assertion: Michael> basic_string::npos): Assertion !(pos2 Michael> > len2) is not fulfilled. That's surprising, because the assertion is also present in lyxstring (which I use) and is

Re: lyx on MAC OS X

> "Giorgio" == Giorgio Zavarise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Giorgio> Hi I would like to know if there will be a version of lyx Giorgio> also for MAC OSX. Due to the unix kernel of such operative Giorgio> system it is perhaps not so difficult to do it. I am acutally Giorgio> using Scientific

Re: mathed behaviour

> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> I think a more suitable implementation of matrices and array Andre> would involve a one-dimesional array (i.e. std::vector) of "row Andre> structures", each holding another one-dimensional array of Andre> "entries", an optional

Re: mathed behaviour

On 20-Apr-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > If you are going to rewrite array support, would it make sense to > share code with the tabular inset? At latex level, these are the same > objects, after all. I understand that there will be many problem, but > this is the "ideal" solution, after

Re: mathed behaviour

> If you are going to rewrite array support, would it make sense to > share code with the tabular inset? At latex level, these are the same > objects, after all. I understand that there will be many problem, but > this is the "ideal" solution, after all. In theory yes. In practice it'd probably

Re: SUN CC 6.0 Update 1 and Purify

Hi Allan, I don't know what is going on here. I disabled _all_ settings of SIGC_PARTIAL_SPEC (in all files). Nevertheless, the following test change in object_slot.h results in a compile error: #ifdef SIGC_CXX_PARTIAL_SPEC typedef R RType; sdfkdskfjdsfkdfk #else typedef typename

Re: mathed behaviour

> Do I understand it right that arrays for mated: > > 1. Do not have visual (border)lines I have not seen any so far... Moreover, multiline math is conceptually somewhat simpler than "real tables" since it does not need to handle multicolumn cells. > 2. Instead of having a InsetText they

Re: SUN CC 6.0 Update 1 and Purify

Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | /** | * Sun's CC can't connect to an inherited method so we have this little | * concrete instance to give it something to hook onto. | */ | FormBaseBI::hide() { | ::hide(); | } FormBaseBI::hide() { FormBaseDeperecated::hide(); } --

Re: mathed behaviour

> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Do I understand it right that arrays for mated: >> >> 1. Do not have visual (border)lines Andre> I have not seen any so far... Well, if you look at the deinition of the array environment, it is the same thing as a tabular, except

Validate() and algorithm

Concerning the problem of non-working algorithms: Lars, how do you plan to solve the fact that algorithm.sty has to be included for algorithms? It is supposed to be handled by InsetFloat::Validate(), but how? Also, the insettoc should enable algorithm when there is a list of algorithms. This is

Re: Unicode (was Re: enormous)

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 09:21:53AM +0300, Martin Vermeer wrote: > > Hmm... although it would save memory for those of us working primarily > > with langauges that only use Latin-1 ASCII, it does make rendering > > trickier. You'd basically have to convert from utf-8 to full Unicode > >

Re: mathed behaviour

On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:18:30AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > 2. The cursor is broken when it is inside a macro instance. > > How? When you move into a macro, the cursor doesn't appear where it should. In fact, it is drawn completely outside the math inset (and sometimes the screen scroll

Re: Validate() and algorithm

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Concerning the problem of non-working algorithms: Lars, how do you | plan to solve the fact that algorithm.sty has to be included for | algorithms? It is supposed to be handled by InsetFloat::Validate(), | but how? actally, I planned to ditch

Re: Validate() and algorithm

> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars> Concerning the problem of non-working algorithms: Lars, how do Lars> you | plan to solve the fact that algorithm.sty has to be Lars> included for | algorithms? It is

Re: Bug with inseterror

> "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dekel> When trying to open an insererror, LyX crashes. Bug found and fixed. BTW, people using lyxstring did not see it because lyxstring::substr(i) does not assert on i

Re: Validate() and algorithm

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars> actally, I planned to ditch support for algorithm.sty, and use | Lars> the float.sty directly instead. and the current float support is | Lars> supposed to do this. | | Then this has to be done before 1.2.0. I thought it already done.

Re: List of algorithms and Subfigures are broken

> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Very simple (I don't use Redhat BTW): Open a new document, Michael> insert a list of algorithms, export to dvi, click on the new Michael> error box -> crash Michael> Here is the assertion: As I wrote elsewhere, this is

Console warning

Does this message mean anything to you? In ClipBoard [clipboard.c 276] Unknown target: 356 Michael == Michael Schmittphone: +49 451 500 3725 Institute for Telematics

Re: mathed behaviour

> On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:18:30AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > > 2. The cursor is broken when it is inside a macro instance. > > When you move into a macro, the cursor doesn't appear where it should. > In fact, it is drawn completely outside the math inset (and sometimes the > screen

Re: Bug with inseterror

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Dekel> When trying to open an insererror, LyX crashes. | | Bug found and fixed. BTW, people using lyxstring did not see it | because lyxstring::substr(i) does not assert on i

Re: Console warning

Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Does this message mean anything to you? | | In ClipBoard [clipboard.c 276] Unknown target: 356 I have seen it when pasting to/from emacs, but I think you can just disregard it. Should perhaps be reported to the xforms list though. --

Re: Bug with inseterror

> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars> > "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> Dekel> When trying to open an insererror, LyX crashes. | | Bug Lars> found and fixed. BTW, people using

Re: lyx.org domain fee

Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > The lyx.org domain is up for renewal, and I am going to be so bold > that I ask is some faithful user will be willing to sponsor the LyX > project with this. > > The fee covers two years and is 70$ US. > > If someone steps forward, I will send the information

Help: Mathed is broken seriously

Hello, 1. open a new document 2. change to math mode 3. enter "N \in " As soon as you start entering the text, LyX crashes. Any help is greatly appreciated (please let me know when it is fixed because I need to write some formula very urgently) Many, many thanks in advance, Michael

Re: lyx.org domain fee

"Garst R. Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > The fee covers two years and is 70$ US. | > | > If someone steps forward, I will send the information needed to that | > individual. | I can handle that. | Garst Ok, Garst won this one. I'll send the needed information privately. --

Re: Help: Mathed is broken seriously

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Michael Schmitt wrote: > Hello, > > 1. open a new document > 2. change to math mode > 3. enter "N \in " > > As soon as you start entering the text, LyX crashes. Any help is greatly > appreciated (please let me know when it is fixed because I need to write > some formula

Re: some compiler warnings

> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> For what it's worth, I get the following warnings when Angus> compiling current CVS. Angus Fixed in cvs. JMarc

Re: Help: Mathed is broken seriously

> 1. open a new document > 2. change to math mode > 3. enter "N \in " I can not reproduce this (CVS head + mathed63.diff) Does it crash immediately after the \ is typed? If so, it is probably due to the math cursor getting invalid for some (unknown) reason. Since this "feature" appeared during

Re: eliminating the splash screen

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > > Show it in the workarea when no buffers are open. > > Allan. (ARRae) > I believe Michael Schmitt already suggested this ... feel free to do it ... john -- "Do you mean to tell me that "The Prince" is not the set textbook for CS1072 Professional

RE: eliminating the splash screen

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > On 20-Apr-2001 Allan Rae wrote: > > Show it in the workarea when no buffers are open. > > Yes IMO this is a good idea! I'm quite annoyed with the behaviour of it right now > it doesn't close even if I open a buffer right now! > > Jürgen ???

RE: Tabular speed

On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote: > In my profile the top was GetCellInset() and I thought probably we should > have some sort of iterator over this (but I don't know how to realize one > which would work), maybe this would be faster. yes, this is what I get too ... > > p.s. can't at

Re: Help: Mathed is broken seriously

> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> 1. open a new document 2. change to math mode 3. enter "N \in " Andre> I can not reproduce this (CVS head + mathed63.diff) Andre> Does it crash immediately after the \ is typed? If so, it is Andre> probably due to the math cursor

lyx.org domain fee

The lyx.org domain is up for renewal, and I am going to be so bold that I ask is some faithful user will be willing to sponsor the LyX project with this. The fee covers two years and is 70$ US. If someone steps forward, I will send the information needed to that individual. Tia, --

general remark on implicit extra features

Dear all, I hope entering the right mailing list and to not rising old stuff with my remark: I noted, that often implicit vspaces and skips are inserted into the tex translate. I think them to be rather annoying. Of course this does not have to be true for other people, but It should be possible

Re: general remark on implicit extra features

> "Thomas" == Thomas Kamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Thomas> I hope entering the right mailing list and to not rising old Thomas> stuff with my remark: I noted, that often implicit vspaces and Thomas> skips are inserted into the tex translate. I think them to be Thomas> rather annoying. Of