Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Rob Lahaye
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:12:15PM +0900, R. Lahaye wrote: All I'm saying is: if something is LaTeX, then let's use the LaTeX name, instead of hiding it behind another LyX name. This sounds sensible. It's not really nice to have three names for a thing. The

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphics inset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 03:30:28AM +0900, R. Lahaye wrote: I did this, because we were continuously translating between the GUI-keywords, the LyX-keywords, and the LaTeX keywords. This complicated scheme is reduced to the commen GUI - LyX/LaTeX conversion, using a Translator for that.

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 03:30:04PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: Why not? Opening the .lyx in a text editor is still the only decent way to do heavy searchreplace. That's a lousy excuse! And I would rather call this a bug in LyX, or a desperately missing feature at the least :). Yes. But

Re: [Patch] workarea.diff

2002-08-30 Thread Allan Rae
On 28 Aug 2002, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | \bind mouse-button-1 cursor-set | \global_inset_bind mouse-button-1 popup-dialog | | Or maybe | | \localbind insetname mouse-button-1 popup-dialog | | with insetname being the inset identifier

Re: [Patch] workarea.diff

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 04:49:38PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: | \bind mouse-button-1 cursor-set | \global_inset_bind mouse-button-1 popup-dialog | | Or maybe | | \localbind insetname mouse-button-1 popup-dialog | | with insetname being the inset identifier string that Jean-Marc

Re: [PATCH] install lyx2lyx

2002-08-30 Thread Juergen Vigna
Dekel Tsur wrote: Here is a patch for searching the lyx2lyx script in LYXDIR. I did not change your Makefile patch. The new makefile should copy lyx2lyx to LYXDIR/lyx2lyx/ and perhaps add a symbolic link to PREFIX/bin/ For now I don't care about installing I run lyx always from the

Re: [PATCH] install lyx2lyx

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 08:59:22AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: For now I don't care about installing I run lyx always from the build-dir. I tried your patch and now I get this errors: That's the same error I get without the patch on File-New. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in

Re: Qt Math Panel layout

2002-08-30 Thread Philipp Reichmuth
Hi John, JL Comments please. I'm not sure how this will fit into my favourite JL icons panel yet. Variation screenshot attached. Changes: - Added group boxes for better grouping to overall enhance usability, especially for the symbol area, where I think there should be a distinction

empty LyXLength

2002-08-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Would it be possible to use a special unit for this? UNIT_EMPTY or something? -- Lgb

Re: [PATCH] install lyx2lyx

2002-08-30 Thread José Abílio Oliveira Matos
On Wednesday 28 August 2002 20:10, John Levon wrote: This patch installs lyx2lyx into the path,and places the support .py into $DATADIR/lyx2lyx It does NOT fix using non-installed lyx. I will fix that later, the same way we do for reLyX. Any comments ? the only change to the script is to

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphics inset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread José Abílio Oliveira Matos
On Thursday 29 August 2002 23:39, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | No, reducing the readability of the lyx file should not be an issue. | Eventually the lyx file will be saved via a zip filter and is then | unreadable anyway. I am not so sure about that... Then to see the file use zless (how

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphics inset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 08:45:00AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: As enums could be explicitly converted to ints I don't think they are necessary. Erm, implicit behaviour depending on the exact ordering and numbering of a particular widget is NOT a good enough. We most definitely SHOULD be

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 03:30:04PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: This sounds sensible. It's not really nice to have three names for a thing. The rotateOrigin was a good example of that. We were talking three languages: 1. the GUI-style, 2. the LyX-style, and 3. the LaTeX-style. For esample:

Re: Qt Math Panel layout

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:42:26AM +0200, Philipp Reichmuth wrote: - Added group boxes for better grouping to overall enhance usability, especially for the symbol area, where I think there should be a distinction between the label for the area and for the range selector I don't agree

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotationsimplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I agree. Lars, it's just *naming*. You don't need to read a latex | conspiracy into it. but I do... -- Lgb

Re: [PATCH] install lyx2lyx

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 12:47:18PM +0100, José Abílio Oliveira Matos wrote: Go, this is better than nothing and can be completed later. Apparently it's mega controversial so I'll just leave it to Dekel or whatever regards john -- Take the ideas you find useful. Try not to get hung up on

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphics inset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:03:10PM +0100, John Levon wrote: Erm, implicit behaviour depending on the exact ordering and numbering of a particular widget is NOT a good enough. We most definitely SHOULD be explicit (for starters Qt will have to be because it's not pascal-numbered) But not by

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:16:48PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | I agree. Lars, it's just *naming*. You don't need to read a latex | conspiracy into it. but I do... We know. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve,

Cursor displayed at wrong position

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
If I have a displayed formula in a paragraph [I.e. type 'foobarS-C-MEscfoobar'] and I try to place the cursor in front of the formula (after the first foobar, it is displayed at the beginning of the line in front of the foobar. Pretty annoying. This is also present in 1.2.1, so I did not break

Re: Cursor displayed at wrong position

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:34:07PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: If I have a displayed formula in a paragraph [I.e. type 'foobarS-C-MEscfoobar'] and I try to place the cursor in front of the formula (after the first foobar, it is displayed at the beginning of the line in front of the foobar.

Re: Cursor displayed at wrong position

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:36:49PM +0100, John Levon wrote: If I have a displayed formula in a paragraph [I.e. type 'foobarS-C-MEscfoobar'] and I try to place the cursor in front of the formula (after the first foobar, it is displayed at the beginning of the line in front of the foobar.

Re: Cursor displayed at wrong position

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:45:41PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: I wonder why there are all these coordinate members in lyxcursor anyway. Me too (well apart from x_fix) Shouldn't it be posiible to determine the cursor's position only from the paragraph and position (using, maybe, some extra

Re: Feature freeze 2002-09-13

2002-08-30 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 29 August 2002 9:16 am, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Do anyone have a problem with that? You want to do something important on Friday 13th? (My birthday by the way. I think 13 is a lucky number...) Angus. Slowly trawling through 953 lyx messages...

Re: Feature freeze 2002-09-13

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:42:35PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: On Thursday 29 August 2002 9:16 am, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Do anyone have a problem with that? You want to do something important on Friday 13th? (My birthday by the way. Mine too (in May) I think 13 is a lucky

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Kuba Ober
On piątek 30 sierpień 2002 08:24 am, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:16:48PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | I agree. Lars, it's just *naming*. You don't need to read a latex | conspiracy into it. but I do... We know. I think that this was discussed almost a year

Re: Bug in lyxconvert_217.py

2002-08-30 Thread José Abílio Oliveira Matos
On Thursday 29 August 2002 19:21, Dekel Tsur wrote: [...] Another solution may be write a function find_end_of() which find the correct end of the tabular. find_end_of() should be a generalization of find_end_of_inset() which have two additional arguments: start token end token (for

Help: GraphicCache - reload graphic file

2002-08-30 Thread Marco Morandini
This draft patch should detect when a graphic file is changed, and rebuild the cache. A time_t variable (filemodtime_) is added to GraphicsCacheItem it is set to the ModificationTime of the graphic file each time the GraphicsCacheItem is modified. Each time insetgraphics performs a setCache, it

Re: crash on preview with bad postscript (plan)

2002-08-30 Thread Angus Leeming
On Wednesday 28 August 2002 8:37 am, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | R. Lahaye wrote: | None of the scripts in lib seem to have the x-bit set? | Why is that? | | They where checked in wrong! Lars could you please set the | x-bit directly on the

Re: Help: GraphicCache - reload graphic file

2002-08-30 Thread Angus Leeming
On Friday 30 August 2002 3:21 pm, Marco Morandini wrote: This draft patch should detect when a graphic file is changed, and rebuild the cache. We can already detect that the file has changed in 1.3 cvs. I won't comment about the suitability of the patch for 1.2, but will leave this for

Re: Help: GraphicCache - reload graphic file

2002-08-30 Thread Marco Morandini
Angus Leeming wrote: On Friday 30 August 2002 3:21 pm, Marco Morandini wrote: This draft patch should detect when a graphic file is changed, and rebuild the cache. We can already detect that the file has changed in 1.3 cvs. Great! Thanks, I'll look there. Marco Morandini

Re: Feature freeze 2002-09-13

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:42:35PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: On Thursday 29 August 2002 9:16 am, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Do anyone have a problem with that? You want to do something important on Friday 13th? No. He explicitly wanted to do nothing... Andre' -- Those who desire to

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:16:46AM -0400, Kuba Ober wrote: 1. XML, although a nicety, is almost useless for people who edit things in it. I noticed that. But Lars seems to have a strong aversion against being LaTeX centric so I doubt it is a good idea to openly discuss things like that ;-)

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:12:15PM +0900, R. Lahaye wrote: Who is supposed to read the lyx file format? Users certainly not! The present format, but also XML, saves a lot of diskspace when gzipped. Interesting detail: the xml parser doesn't care whether the file is gzipped or not, it can

more counting strangeness

2002-08-30 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
This is from Aug 27 cvs. The attached file numbers the first section with 5 rather than 1. The printed output is correct. hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics/\ ASCII ribbon campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread José Abílio Oliveira Matos
On Friday 30 August 2002 16:02, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote: I really know nothing about xml, but if it loses any of the advantages of a pure text file, we lose a lot . . . Although sometimes (always ?) more verbose there are tools like xmldiff that show the difference between both

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 04:21:35PM +0100, Jos? Ab?lio Oliveira Matos wrote: On Friday 30 August 2002 16:02, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote: I really know nothing about xml, but if it loses any of the advantages of a pure text file, we lose a lot . . . Although sometimes (always ?) more

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:16:46AM -0400, Kuba Ober wrote: There are two things worth mentioning: 1. XML,although a nicety, is almost useless for people who edit things in it. It pushes one to type so many unnecessary keystrokes for even the most trivial things, and eveything has to be

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:36:07AM -0400, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote: Now, if some psycho would manage to bolt lyx equation display onto vim editing . . . That sounds a lot like David's preview-latex but with vim not emacs hawk, who freqeuntly has extra hjkl's running around his

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphicsinset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread Rob Lahaye
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 03:30:28AM +0900, R. Lahaye wrote: I did this, because we were continuously translating between the GUI-keywords, the LyX-keywords, and the LaTeX keywords. This complicated scheme is reduced to the commen GUI - LyX/LaTeX conversion, using a

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphics inset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 01:01:13AM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: I say: keep the switches for the sake of localization per UI. It's simple and straightforward. Than for ${DEITY}s sake, put that conversion into helper functions. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain

math panel

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
I just had a look at the Qt math panel. Nice thing. It would be cute if there were scroll button to scroll through symbol panels without having to selcet them one by one in that drop down list... Or even a show my a huge window with all symbols button... Andre' -- Those who desire to give

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphicsinset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread R. Lahaye
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 01:01:13AM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: I say: keep the switches for the sake of localization per UI. It's simple and straightforward. Than for ${DEITY}s sake, put that conversion into helper functions. But that function will only be called

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphics inset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 02:03:47AM +0900, R. Lahaye wrote: Are you saying I should do something like: frnt::OriginType GUI_conversion(int const GUI_choiceItem) { switch (GUI_choiceItem) { case 11: return(frnt::RightBaseline); case 10:

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:12:15PM +0900, R. Lahaye wrote: | All I'm saying is: if something is LaTeX, then let's use the LaTeX name, | instead of hiding it behind another LyX name. | | This sounds sensible. It's not really nice to have three names

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | I agree. Lars, it's just *naming*. Nothing is just naming. What is in a name? Would a rose... There is a lot of politics in a name, and by choosing latex centric names you effectively put other output formats as less important and put them in the

Re: Cursor displayed at wrong position

2002-08-30 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:45:41PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: What is that 'boundary' flag good for for instance? RTL.

xforms qt and xpm

2002-08-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
I am just unable to compile qt now... because of this: In file included from ../../../src/graphics/GraphicsImageXPM.C:16: ../../../src/graphics/GraphicsImageXPM.h:18:10: #include expects FILENAME or FILENAME ../../../src/graphics/GraphicsImageXPM.C:27:10: #include expects FILENAME or FILENAME

Re: Qt Math Panel layout

2002-08-30 Thread Dekel Tsur
How difficult is implementing a mathed toolbar (like in klyx) ?

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 04:37:55PM +0100, John Levon wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:36:07AM -0400, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote: Now, if some psycho would manage to bolt lyx equation display onto vim editing . . . That sounds a lot like David's preview-latex but with vim not emacs

Re: Bug in lyxconvert_217.py

2002-08-30 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 03:26:47PM +0100, José Abílio Oliveira Matos wrote: On Thursday 29 August 2002 19:21, Dekel Tsur wrote: [...] Another solution may be write a function find_end_of() which find the correct end of the tabular. find_end_of() should be a generalization of

Re: math panel

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 06:49:17PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: It would be cute if there were scroll button to scroll through symbol panels without having to selcet them one by one in that drop down list... Not sure what you mean, but if you're referring to the fact that the symbols don't all

Re: Cursor displayed at wrong position

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:03:14PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:45:41PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: What is that 'boundary' flag good for for instance? RTL. It would be really great if you could add a short explanation of *what* it does and *why* to lyxcursor.h

Re: xforms qt and xpm

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:22:38PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: In file included from ../../../src/graphics/GraphicsImageXPM.C:16: ../../../src/graphics/GraphicsImageXPM.h:18:10: #include expects FILENAME or FILENAME ../../../src/graphics/GraphicsImageXPM.C:27:10: #include expects

Re: Qt Math Panel layout

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 12:16:15AM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: How difficult is implementing a mathed toolbar (like in klyx) ? It's already implemented. Toolbar ... NewLine Icon math-insert \overleftrightarrow Icon math-insert \grave Icon math-insert \tilde

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Rob Lahaye
Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:12:15PM +0900, R. Lahaye wrote: > >>All I'm saying is: if something is LaTeX, then let's use the LaTeX name, >>instead of hiding it behind another LyX name. > > > This sounds sensible. It's not really nice to have three names for a thing. The

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphics inset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 03:30:28AM +0900, R. Lahaye wrote: > I did this, because we were continuously translating between the > GUI-keywords, the LyX-keywords, and the LaTeX keywords. This complicated > scheme is reduced to the commen GUI - LyX/LaTeX conversion, using a > Translator for that. >

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 03:30:04PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: > >Why not? Opening the .lyx in a text editor is still the only decent > > way to do heavy search > > That's a lousy excuse! And I would rather call this a bug in LyX, or > a desperately missing feature at the least :). Yes. But that's

Re: [Patch] workarea.diff

2002-08-30 Thread Allan Rae
On 28 Aug 2002, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | > \bind "mouse-button-1" "cursor-set" > | > \global_inset_bind "mouse-button-1" "popup-dialog" > | > | Or maybe > | > | \localbind "insetname" "mouse-button-1" "popup-dialog" > | > | with "insetname"

Re: [Patch] workarea.diff

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 04:49:38PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > > | > \bind "mouse-button-1" "cursor-set" > > | > \global_inset_bind "mouse-button-1" "popup-dialog" > > | > > | Or maybe > > | > > | \localbind "insetname" "mouse-button-1" "popup-dialog" > > | > > | with "insetname" being the inset

Re: [PATCH] install lyx2lyx

2002-08-30 Thread Juergen Vigna
Dekel Tsur wrote: > Here is a patch for searching the lyx2lyx script in LYXDIR. > I did not change your Makefile patch. > The new makefile should copy lyx2lyx to LYXDIR/lyx2lyx/ > and perhaps add a symbolic link to PREFIX/bin/ For now I don't care about installing I run lyx always from the

Re: [PATCH] install lyx2lyx

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 08:59:22AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > For now I don't care about installing I run lyx always from the > build-dir. I tried your patch and now I get this errors: That's the same error I get without the patch on File->New. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom

Re: Qt Math Panel layout

2002-08-30 Thread Philipp Reichmuth
Hi John, JL> Comments please. I'm not sure how this will fit into my "favourite JL> icons" panel yet. Variation screenshot attached. Changes: - Added group boxes for better grouping to overall enhance usability, especially for the symbol area, where I think there should be a distinction

empty LyXLength

2002-08-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Would it be possible to use a "special" unit for this? UNIT_EMPTY or something? -- Lgb

Re: [PATCH] install lyx2lyx

2002-08-30 Thread José Abílio Oliveira Matos
On Wednesday 28 August 2002 20:10, John Levon wrote: > This patch installs lyx2lyx into the path,and places the support .py > into $DATADIR/lyx2lyx > > It does NOT fix using non-installed lyx. I will fix that later, the same way we do for reLyX. > Any comments ? the only change to the script

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphics inset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread José Abílio Oliveira Matos
On Thursday 29 August 2002 23:39, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > | No, reducing the readability of the lyx file should not be an issue. > | Eventually the lyx file will be saved via a zip filter and is then > | unreadable anyway. > > I am not so sure about that... Then to see the file use

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphics inset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 08:45:00AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > As enums could be explicitly converted to ints I don't think they are > necessary. Erm, implicit behaviour depending on the exact ordering and numbering of a particular widget is NOT a good enough. We most definitely SHOULD be

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 03:30:04PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: > >This sounds sensible. It's not really nice to have three names for a thing. > > The rotateOrigin was a good example of that. We were talking three > languages: > 1. the GUI-style, 2. the LyX-style, and 3. the LaTeX-style. For

Re: Qt Math Panel layout

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:42:26AM +0200, Philipp Reichmuth wrote: > - Added group boxes for better grouping to overall enhance usability, > especially for the symbol area, where I think there should be a > distinction between the label for the area and for the range > selector I don't

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotationsimplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I agree. Lars, it's just *naming*. You don't need to read a latex | conspiracy into it. but I do... -- Lgb

Re: [PATCH] install lyx2lyx

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 12:47:18PM +0100, José Abílio Oliveira Matos wrote: > Go, this is better than nothing and can be completed later. Apparently it's mega controversial so I'll just leave it to Dekel or whatever regards john -- "Take the ideas you find useful. Try not to get hung up on

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphics inset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:03:10PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > Erm, implicit behaviour depending on the exact ordering and numbering of > a particular widget is NOT a good enough. We most definitely SHOULD be > explicit (for starters Qt will have to be because it's not > pascal-numbered) But not

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:16:48PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | I agree. Lars, it's just *naming*. You don't need to read a latex > | conspiracy into it. > > but I do... We know. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they

Cursor displayed at wrong position

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
If I have a displayed formula in a paragraph [I.e. type 'foobarfoobar'] and I try to place the cursor in front of the formula (after the first foobar, it is displayed at the beginning of the line in front of the foobar. Pretty annoying. This is also present in 1.2.1, so I did not break that

Re: Cursor displayed at wrong position

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:34:07PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > If I have a displayed formula in a paragraph [I.e. type > 'foobarfoobar'] and I try to place the cursor in front of the > formula (after the first foobar, it is displayed at the beginning of the > line in front of the foobar.

Re: Cursor displayed at wrong position

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:36:49PM +0100, John Levon wrote: > > If I have a displayed formula in a paragraph [I.e. type > > 'foobarfoobar'] and I try to place the cursor in front of the > > formula (after the first foobar, it is displayed at the beginning of the > > line in front of the foobar.

Re: Cursor displayed at wrong position

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:45:41PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > I wonder why there are all these coordinate members in lyxcursor anyway. Me too (well apart from x_fix) > Shouldn't it be posiible to determine the cursor's position only from > the paragraph and position (using, maybe, some

Re: Feature freeze 2002-09-13

2002-08-30 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 29 August 2002 9:16 am, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Do anyone have a problem with that? You want to do something important on Friday 13th? (My birthday by the way. I think 13 is a lucky number...) Angus. Slowly trawling through 953 lyx messages...

Re: Feature freeze 2002-09-13

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:42:35PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: > On Thursday 29 August 2002 9:16 am, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > Do anyone have a problem with that? > > You want to do something important on Friday 13th? > > (My birthday by the way. Mine too (in May) > I think 13 is a

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Kuba Ober
On piątek 30 sierpień 2002 08:24 am, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:16:48PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > | I agree. Lars, it's just *naming*. You don't need to read a latex > > | conspiracy into it. > > > > but I do... > > We know. I think that this was discussed

Re: Bug in lyxconvert_217.py

2002-08-30 Thread José Abílio Oliveira Matos
On Thursday 29 August 2002 19:21, Dekel Tsur wrote: [...] > Another solution may be write a function find_end_of() which find the > correct end of the tabular. find_end_of() should be a generalization of > find_end_of_inset() which have two additional arguments: start token & end > token (for

Help: GraphicCache - reload graphic file

2002-08-30 Thread Marco Morandini
This draft patch should detect when a graphic file is changed, and rebuild the cache. A time_t variable (filemodtime_) is added to GraphicsCacheItem it is set to the ModificationTime of the graphic file each time the GraphicsCacheItem is modified. Each time insetgraphics performs a setCache, it

Re: crash on preview with bad postscript (plan)

2002-08-30 Thread Angus Leeming
On Wednesday 28 August 2002 8:37 am, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | R. Lahaye wrote: > | > None of the scripts in lib seem to have the x-bit set? > | > Why is that? > | > | They where checked in wrong! Lars could you please set the > | x-bit directly on

Re: Help: GraphicCache - reload graphic file

2002-08-30 Thread Angus Leeming
On Friday 30 August 2002 3:21 pm, Marco Morandini wrote: > This draft patch should detect when a graphic file is changed, > and rebuild the cache. We can already detect that the file has changed in 1.3 cvs. I won't comment about the suitability of the patch for 1.2, but will leave this for

Re: Help: GraphicCache - reload graphic file

2002-08-30 Thread Marco Morandini
Angus Leeming wrote: > On Friday 30 August 2002 3:21 pm, Marco Morandini wrote: > >>This draft patch should detect when a graphic file is changed, >>and rebuild the cache. > > > We can already detect that the file has changed in 1.3 cvs. > Great! Thanks, I'll look there. Marco Morandini

Re: Feature freeze 2002-09-13

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:42:35PM +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: > On Thursday 29 August 2002 9:16 am, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > Do anyone have a problem with that? > > You want to do something important on Friday 13th? No. He explicitly wanted to do nothing... Andre' -- Those who desire

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:16:46AM -0400, Kuba Ober wrote: > 1. XML, although a nicety, is almost useless for people who edit things > in it. I noticed that. But Lars seems to have a strong aversion against being "LaTeX centric" so I doubt it is a good idea to openly discuss things like that ;-)

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:12:15PM +0900, R. Lahaye wrote: > Who is supposed to read the lyx file format? Users certainly not! > The present format, but also XML, saves a lot of diskspace when > gzipped. Interesting detail: the xml parser doesn't care whether > the file is gzipped or not, it can

more counting strangeness

2002-08-30 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
This is from Aug 27 cvs. The attached file numbers the first section with 5 rather than 1. The printed output is correct. hawk -- Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics/"\ ASCII ribbon campaign [EMAIL PROTECTED] Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread José Abílio Oliveira Matos
On Friday 30 August 2002 16:02, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote: > > I really know nothing about xml, but if it loses any of the advantages > of a pure text file, we lose a lot . . . Although sometimes (always ?) more verbose there are tools like xmldiff that show the difference between both

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 04:21:35PM +0100, Jos? Ab?lio Oliveira Matos wrote: > On Friday 30 August 2002 16:02, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote: > > I really know nothing about xml, but if it loses any of the advantages > > of a pure text file, we lose a lot . . . > Although sometimes (always ?)

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 10:16:46AM -0400, Kuba Ober wrote: > There are two things worth mentioning: > 1. XML,although a nicety, is almost useless for people who edit things in it. > It pushes one to type so many unnecessary keystrokes for even the most > trivial things, and eveything has to

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread John Levon
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 11:36:07AM -0400, Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote: > Now, if some psycho would manage to bolt lyx equation display onto vim > editing . . . That sounds a lot like David's preview-latex but with vim not emacs > hawk, who freqeuntly has extra hjkl's running around his

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphicsinset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread Rob Lahaye
Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 03:30:28AM +0900, R. Lahaye wrote: > >>I did this, because we were continuously translating between the >>GUI-keywords, the LyX-keywords, and the LaTeX keywords. This complicated >>scheme is reduced to the commen GUI - LyX/LaTeX conversion, using a

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphics inset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 01:01:13AM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: > I say: keep the switches for the sake of localization per UI. > It's simple and straightforward. Than for ${DEITY}s sake, put that conversion into helper functions. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain

math panel

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
I just had a look at the Qt math panel. Nice thing. It would be cute if there were "scroll button" to scroll through symbol panels without having to selcet them one by one in that drop down list... Or even a "show my a huge window with all symbols" button... Andre' -- Those who desire to

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphicsinset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread R. Lahaye
Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 01:01:13AM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote: > >>I say: keep the switches for the sake of localization per UI. >>It's simple and straightforward. > > > Than for ${DEITY}s sake, put that conversion into helper functions. > But that function will only be

Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified in originTranslator; graphics inset format change.

2002-08-30 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 02:03:47AM +0900, R. Lahaye wrote: > Are you saying I should do something like: > > frnt::OriginType GUI_conversion(int const GUI_choiceItem) > { > switch (GUI_choiceItem) { > case 11: return(frnt::RightBaseline); > case 10:

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 01:12:15PM +0900, R. Lahaye wrote: | > All I'm saying is: if something is LaTeX, then let's use the LaTeX name, | > instead of hiding it behind another LyX name. | | This sounds sensible. It's not really nice to have three

Re: Lyx and Latex (was Re: [PATCH] Origin of rotation simplified...)

2002-08-30 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I agree. Lars, it's just *naming*. Nothing is "just naming". What is in a name? Would a rose... There is a lot of politics in a name, and by choosing latex centric names you effectively put other output formats as less important and put them in the

Re: Cursor displayed at wrong position

2002-08-30 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:45:41PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > What is that 'boundary' flag good for for instance? RTL.

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