On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 11:06:35PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- aalxxxup () laxxxal ! dk,
+ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I reverted that.
There should be no non-obfuscated mail addresses in the sources.
Andre'
Hello everyone,
It's been fun getting started with working on LyX these past few weeks.
I was just thinking about how I never really introduced myself, so here
we go:
I am a college student in the US studying applied math. I started using
LyX a couple of years ago after experimenting with a
On Thursday 03 April 2008 23:46:20 Bo Peng wrote:
I am repeating myself the fourth time. We have had these paths in our
.lyx file since lyx 1.5 (I have learned something from the
discussions) and nobody has ever said anything. If a user chooses to
use a file with an absolute path, it is his
On Friday 04 April 2008 03:22:51 Bo Peng wrote:
The examples I gave look exactly like this. The bib and logo
directories are used by almost all documents in my svn tree. They are
available on every machine where the tree is checked out. Without
them, my documents could not compile.
Again
Angus Leeming wrote:
Pavel Sanda wrote:
I think we're ready to go live.
just few bits i've found during scanning the whole structure:
- what is lyx, features, get involved pages, donate contain unreadbale
chars (copyright sign Lars name,...)
- whats is lyx - credits links at the end will
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 01:12:08PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote:
In case you don't see the question in the other thread: Suppose I bundle
virus.exe in a LyX file. Could I manage to include TeX code sufficient to
execute it?
Only if you give the
What happened to all the old news in at
http://www.lyx.org/test/News?
you mean this: http://www.lyx.org/test/RoadMap ?
The email addresses at I18n are obfuscated nicely. However, at least some
of them appear to be wrong:
the address you indicate is imho correct.
The BlanketPermission
On 4/4/08, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If the majority of the users keep their files in a subdirectory, my
feature is not in the way of anything, right? So why do you want to
enforce such a policy when you do not have to?
You mean like
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb:
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 01:12:08PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote:
In case you don't see the question in the other thread: Suppose I bundle
virus.exe in a LyX file. Could I manage to include TeX code sufficient to
execute it?
What happened to all the old news in at
http://www.lyx.org/test/News?
you mean this: http://www.lyx.org/test/RoadMap ?
erm, you mean something different, sorry.
pavel
Am 01.04.2008 um 22:53 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've talked to Andrei, Rex etc and from a design point of view,
we're ready to go live. So what else is missing before a release?
Maybe this was discussed before:
Putting the News just on separate page is a very bad idea. I want to
go to
- aalxxxup () laxxxal ! dk,
+ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I reverted that.
There should be no non-obfuscated mail addresses in the sources.
thanks, i was going to ask for the same.
pavel
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If the majority of the users keep their files in a subdirectory, my
feature is not in the way of anything, right? So why do you want to
enforce such a policy when you do not have to?
You mean like when microsoft thought it would be nice to let people
send exe
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
the problems I mentioned in the first message, a good solution to
allow me to share different files from the same .lyx document.
Of course, this is 'share the same files from different .lyx document'
Sharing a file for reading is useful and can be done via
hi,
what are the boxes with Simple frame, page breaks are intended for?
i dont see the difference wrt page breaking of long box compared to simple
frame.
pavel
Pavel Sanda wrote:
have you tried it? i was not successful.
see attached example.
Jürgen
framebox.lyx
Description: application/lyx
have you tried it? i was not successful.
see attached example.
hm. try this one.
pavel
#LyX 1.6.0alpha1 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 325
\begin_document
\begin_header
\textclass article
\language english
\inputencoding auto
\font_roman default
Stefan Schimanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Am 01.04.2008 um 22:53 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've talked to Andrei, Rex etc and from a design point of view,
we're ready to go live. So what else is missing before a release?
Maybe this was discussed before:
Putting the News just on separate
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb:
Stefan Schimanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Am 01.04.2008 um 22:53 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've talked to Andrei, Rex etc and from a design point of view,
we're ready to go live. So what else is missing before a release?
Maybe this was discussed before:
I've talked to Andrei, Rex etc and from a design point of view,
we're ready to go live. So what else is missing before a release?
Maybe this was discussed before:
Putting the News just on separate page is a very bad idea. I want to
go to http://www.lyx.org/ and get an overview immediately
hi,
a)
1. insert note
2. type something inside
3. dissolve inset
4. move with cursor or type something -
5. Trying to select non existent layout type Plain Layout
b) can somebody help me to understand what is the optional parameter of
dissolve inset
for? i see the parameter is used only in
Am 04.04.2008 um 12:41 schrieb Herbert Voss:
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schrieb:
Stefan Schimanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Am 01.04.2008 um 22:53 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've talked to Andrei, Rex etc and from a design point of view,
we're ready to go live. So what else is missing before a
Pavel Sanda wrote:
what are the boxes with Simple frame, page breaks are intended for?
i dont see the difference wrt page breaking of long box compared to simple
frame.
These are boxes from the package framed.sty. They can break across pages.
have you tried it? i was not successful.
Pavel Sanda wrote:
what are the boxes with Simple frame, page breaks are intended for?
i dont see the difference wrt page breaking of long box compared to simple
frame.
These are boxes from the package framed.sty. They can break across pages.
Jürgen
Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Only if you give the '-shell-escape' command line option.
Which is turned on by default on some TeX distributions, I think.
Which one?
This is the tough question I hoped you would not ask :) I cannot
actually substantiate this claim. I deduced that
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Note that novice users do not have to know these. They just click ok
without knowing what they are doing, and the mentioned problem will be
resolved.
As JMarc said, this is very dangerous. Much too dangerous.
What is *so dangerous* here? The result is
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Joost Verburg wrote:
Simply put, I think it's not neccessary to make the sidebar a
compromise in terms of what we put there, in order to create a good
side for different kinds of users.
I would prefer a single site without complicated things like different
modes or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you intend to write 'single site'? (It's still one site, regardless
of the number of modes or views)
I mean a single mode.
Joost
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:
- i experienced one annoyance, but it may be difficult to automatically
solve it: for example go to About LyX section. you get some links to
browse through but once you click on some, you lose the context of
others. this was much more naturally
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:
btw: LyX in the upper left corner is not correct typeset, it should be
similar to TeX.
And it still needs much more contrast. It really feels lost in the grey
background because the font is quite thin. Some shadow or so could
help.
i've suggested the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- i experienced one annoyance, but it may be difficult to automatically
solve it: for example go to About LyX section. you get some links to
browse through but once you click on some, you lose the context of
others. this was much more naturally solved in old pages,
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:
I think the e-mail addresses aren't shown correctly though, e.g.
Enrico's address is as follows
forenr%20%20tlc%20!%20unipr%20!%20it
(see the page http://www.lyx.org/test/I18n ).
Will you look at it, or should I? (I can do it during the weekend)
Angus Leeming wrote:
The email addresses at I18n are obfuscated nicely. However, at least
some of them appear to be wrong:
That's just the e-mail address which in given in the list of translators.
I prefer the hyperlinked name of the translator in I18n to the Contact
of the Credits page.
Would like me to set it up through an alternative skin so that people can
compare them?
thats wasting of your time.
pavel
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:
Pavel Sanda wrote:
I've talked to Andrei, Rex etc and from a design point of view, we're
ready to go live. So what else is missing before a release?
Christian, would it be possible to have 'All recent changes' as we have in
wiki so one have quick review
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Joost Verburg wrote:
3. Its good habit to have site map (but this has to be created at the
end, when the structure is fixed).
The wiki can do this automatically.
It can be done manually, semi-automatically or automatically with varying
results.
We can just create
Anyway, given the size of our site, we could probably get away with just a
manually created 'site map'.
i think too.
btw another annoyance with both wiki's is that my browser is not remembering
the position on the page i came from. so when i hit the back navigating button
i have to seek
Pavel Sanda wrote:
try this one.
Framed.sty obviously has some limitations.
Jürgen
- the proposed trick with (:title :) doesn't work
Eh...?
how i change the titke of Roadmap and into News and Roadmap
without renaming the whole site?
pavel
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Framed.sty obviously has some limitations.
No, it's a bug. We must reset the inner box to none when we use framed.sty
boxes.
Jürgen
pbox.lyx
Description: application/lyx
Pavel Sanda wrote:
i've suggested the current logo, but Joost didn't like it and nobody else
commented http://195.113.31.123/~sanda/junk/header.gif .
I prefer this. The other one looks to googlish.
Jürgen
Jürgen Spitzmüller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Pavel Sanda wrote:
i've suggested the current logo, but Joost didn't like it and nobody else
commented http://195.113.31.123/~sanda/junk/header.gif .
I prefer this. The other one looks to googlish.
I also prefer the block cartoonish letters.
Enrico Forestieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That will work on cygwin but not on mingw because Windows has
no support for symlinks. Indeed, there's already something like that
in autotroll.m4.
I have indeed put the following code:
case $host_os in
darwin*)
at_darwin=yes
Enrico Forestieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't want to use the same LDFLAGS used to build Qt, for example, as
in this case I would lose the debug info, whether or not I want it.
OK, so we should ignore Qt LDFLAGS.
Then, I have to point configure to the build dir, but should also
have
Stefan Schimanski wrote:
Putting the News just on separate page is a very bad idea. I want to go
to http://www.lyx.org/ and get an overview immediately about what's
going on with the project. At least a three line news section with just
the headings, linked to the real new page, would be
Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Stefan Schimanski wrote:
Putting the News just on separate page is a very bad idea. I want to
go to http://www.lyx.org/ and get an overview immediately about
what's going on with the project. At least a three line news section
with just the headings,
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Great! Could the 'recent news' header by clickable and lead to news?
Or alternatively could you add a 'all news...' link at the bottom?
Done.
Joost
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
I prefer this. The other one looks to googlish.
What about using Computer Modern (see the site)?
Joost
Joost Verburg wrote:
What about using Computer Modern (see the site)?
I prefer the block letters. The serif letters with these colors still reminds
me too much on Google.
Jürgen
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
No, it's a bug. We must reset the inner box to none when we use framed.sty
boxes.
fixed.
Jürgen
No, it's a bug. We must reset the inner box to none when we use framed.sty
boxes.
fixed.
thanks
pavel
Jürgen Spitzmüller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Joost Verburg wrote:
What about using Computer Modern (see the site)?
I prefer the block letters. The serif letters with these colors still reminds
me too much on Google.
What was wrong with the block letters? Not boring enough to look
serious?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is there a H1-header at the top of most pages?
That's not so good for different reason, better to keep with standard
practices here. If someone explains it's purpose, I can probably come
up with a more typical way of doing what's needed.
/Christian
No real
What about using Computer Modern (see the site)?
I prefer the block letters. The serif letters with these colors still
reminds
me too much on Google.
What was wrong with the block letters? Not boring enough to look
serious?
i guess we are in a new loop about logo flame from users
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Joost Verburg wrote:
What about using Computer Modern (see the site)?
I prefer the block letters. The serif letters with these colors still reminds
me too much on Google.
With this font and typography it's doesn't look similar to Google in my
opinion, more
Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The cartoon letters make the whole thing look unprofessional again.
Now we finally have a more professional website, that would be a
shame.
Could you recall what you mean by 'professional'? Webster tells me
among other things:
(2): exhibiting a
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:
- the proposed trick with (:title :) doesn't work
Eh...?
how i change the titke of Roadmap and into News and Roadmap without
renaming the whole site?
The directive '(:title ... :)' is not for the entire site, it's only for
the current wiki page.
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote:
Why is there a H1-header at the top of most pages?
No real purpose; that's just what I copied from the old pages on
www.lyx.org when I was converting them to wiki format.
Oh, good. Then we can just remove as we go along then.
/C
--
Christian
- the proposed trick with (:title :) doesn't work
Eh...?
how i change the titke of Roadmap and into News and Roadmap without
renaming the whole site?
The directive '(:title ... :)' is not for the entire site, it's only for
the current wiki page. Does that help?
ah, now i understand
I do not know such case. Could you, please, give me an example in lyx 1.5
where this occurs?
Open *any* version of lyx, insert anything like graphics, child
document, external, browse to /var/log/blah, save you lyx file. You
will see /var/log/blah in your .lyx file.
Bo
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I do not know such case. Could you, please, give me an example in lyx 1.5
where this occurs?
Open *any* version of lyx, insert anything like graphics, child
document, external, browse to /var/log/blah, save you lyx file. You
will see /var/log/blah in your
Joost Verburg wrote:
I'm open to suggestions, but please consider something else than a
cartoon style.
I think the cartoon style is just perfect.
Jürgen
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:
Would like me to set it up through an alternative skin so that people can
compare them?
thats wasting of your time.
Ok, I did however put the headers on a single page, for easier comparison:
http://www.lyx.org/test/wiki/index.php/Test/Header
Open *any* version of lyx, insert anything like graphics, child
document, external, browse to /var/log/blah, save you lyx file. You
will see /var/log/blah in your .lyx file.
And? What kind of evil can we do from there?
Ask Jose. He insisted that I should not save absolute path name in
The cartoon letters make the whole thing look unprofessional again.
...
I'm open to suggestions, but please consider something else than a cartoon
style.
your efforts to push away the logo we have now are based on reasons on which i
can't agree. nobody is doing on lyx from his profession
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:
btw another annoyance with both wiki's is that my browser is not
remembering the position on the page i came from. so when i hit the back
navigating button i have to seek position where i was on the page
before. is this fixable?
Could you give me a
You mean like when microsoft thought it would be nice to let people
send exe files by e-mail and execute them by double clicking? The kind
of feature that should not be a problem for anyone...
The key point is that 'you do not have to', because the current
implementation handles that better
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Joost Verburg wrote:
Done. News items are dynamically created based on news.inc.
Joost
Great! Would you mind writing down somewhere roughly how it's done?
I'm using this page (although it's lagging quite a bit by now!)
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Open *any* version of lyx, insert anything like graphics, child
document, external, browse to /var/log/blah, save you lyx file. You
will see /var/log/blah in your .lyx file.
And? What kind of evil can we do from
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In practice, I guess this is a matter of making a note of what script
you've created, and where it's located. Maintenance is annoying without
such information.
All my scripts are located in the pmwiki cookbook.
Joost
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:
btw another annoyance with both wiki's is that my browser is not
remembering the position on the page i came from. so when i hit the back
navigating button i have to seek position where i was on the page before.
is this fixable?
Could you give me a
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:
- the proposed trick with (:title :) doesn't work
Eh...?
how i change the titke of Roadmap and into News and Roadmap without
renaming the whole site?
The directive '(:title ... :)' is not for the entire site, it's only for
the current wiki page.
Pavel Sanda wrote:
your efforts to push away the logo we have now are based on reasons on which i
can't agree. nobody is doing on lyx from his profession nor i don't see any
ambition to move our target from the current one to professional businessmen.
I'm not talking about businessmen. I think
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
BTW, is the linux logo fitting your definition of professional?
You mean the Linux mascot? We already have such a mascot with a cartoon
style.
Joost
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote:
btw another annoyance with both wiki's is that my browser is not
remembering the position on the page i came from. so when i hit the back
navigating button i have to seek position where i was on the page before.
is
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Joost Verburg wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In practice, I guess this is a matter of making a note of what script
you've created, and where it's located. Maintenance is annoying without
such information.
All my scripts are located in the pmwiki cookbook.
The farm's
I'm not talking about businessmen.
but the word professional indicate to it.
That is, stable and
well-designed software with proper quality assurance.
i guess you will have hard time to demonstrate how the current logo
shows bad design of software.
apart from all reasoning there is also
I have agreed we should extract only to the document directory.
Let me repeat that I think that a bundled LyX file should be actually
a directory with files inside, something like
Whereas I dislike the 'should' word, I am happy that you are the first
one who provide your proposal in a
Hi,
the convertor menu has an ADD button. It is never active. Is it a dummy?
--
Viele Grüße,
Hartmut
Hungerhilfe: http://www.thehungersite.com
Kampagne gegen den Ausverkauf der Deutschen Bahn:
http://www.bahn-fuer-alle.de
Das heutige Motto:
May the force be with you.
the convertor menu has an ADD button. It is never active. Is it a dummy?
it will get active once you select some new source and target formats.
i agree its bit confusing.
pavel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The directive '(:title ... :)' _should_ modify the title. However, I
suspect that Joost's template doesn't use the correct variables or
something.
Fixed.
Joost
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008, Angus Leeming wrote:
Can you keep the footer information of the existing site? This stuff:
[W3C XHTML] [W3C CSS]
At least 8940277 hits on this page.
Webmaster: lyx-devel at lists dot lyx dot org
Page last updated on 2008-03-29 (year-month-day).
I create the page
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I create the page Main/GroupFooter and put it there, at least it's
something although it doesn't look that great from a layout perspective.
I prefer not to have a footer at all.
Joost
In Opera 9.26 I get back to the where I was...
In Firefox it doesn't work ... I have no idea why, shouldn't this be
something the browser deals with?
on another pages it works (including wikipedia), so i guessed it has something
to do with our stuff.
I don't _think_ this has much to do
Pavel Sanda wrote:
i guess you will have hard time to demonstrate how the current logo
shows bad design of software.
It looks like the logo of a small hobby project.
apart from all reasoning there is also good indication from the replies
that developers simply *like* the logo :)
The most
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Having a LyX file that does not typeset is a not a problem of the same
magnitude as having a LyX file that creates files at arbitrary places
on your hard disk.
But if lyx forbids, or make it very difficult, to make a file that can
be compiled anywhere,
Joost Verburg wrote:
The most important thing is what the users think about it, especially
new users.
but in the end, the developers will decide.
Jürgen
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also about your uneasiness of embedding arbitrary files through
document-settings. Whatever embedding solution you choice, users can
embed arbitrary files through InsetGraphics, InsetInclude etc.
The files will be embedded only if the embedding code decides
Joost Verburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
BTW, is the linux logo fitting your definition of professional?
You mean the Linux mascot? We already have such a mascot with a
cartoon style.
I meant that it failed to make the serious people run away :)
JMarc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ok, I did however put the headers on a single page, for easier comparison:
http://www.lyx.org/test/wiki/index.php/Test/Header
I don't think I have an opinion here really... they're .. just
different. :-)
I would add to my previous ramblings that the
But if lyx forbids, or make it very difficult, to make a file that can
be compiled anywhere, it is lyx' problem.
You can put the files you want inside the bundle.
This is my proposal, which can embed any file. The files will be in
the bundle, and if they are extracted, they can only be
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also about your uneasiness of embedding arbitrary files through
document-settings. Whatever embedding solution you choice, users can
embed arbitrary files through
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
I prefer the block letters. The serif letters with these colors still reminds
me too much on Google.
What do you think about upright block letters with shadow (see site)? Is
that a good compromise between the current logo and a bit more
professional look?
Joost
apart from all reasoning there is also good indication from the replies
that developers simply *like* the logo :)
The most important thing is what the users think about it, especially new
users.
no. while it important what users think and advice, most important is what
developers think
I prefer the block letters. The serif letters with these colors still
reminds me too much on Google.
What do you think about upright block letters with shadow (see site)? Is
that a good compromise between the current logo and a bit more professional
look?
you are tough guy :))
my vote
Pavel Sanda wrote:
no. while it important what users think and advice, most important is what
developers think about it, because its after all their work which is to be
presented by that logo.
you say you are not talking about bussiness and on the other hand you propose
exactly the model from
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 03:00:35PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Enrico Forestieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't want to use the same LDFLAGS used to build Qt, for example, as
in this case I would lose the debug info, whether or not I want it.
OK, so we should ignore Qt LDFLAGS.
All new developers start as being a consumer.
and the key point is, they continue to be users.
pavel
Joost Verburg wrote:
What do you think about upright block letters with shadow (see site)? Is
that a good compromise between the current logo and a bit more
professional look?
I like the shadow, but I still prefer the old one. On yours, the spacing
between the letters is too wide, and I also
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This is my proposal, which can embed any file. The files will be in
the bundle, and if they are extracted, they can only be extracted to
the document directory.
I am OK with that, if 'document directory' means 'a special directory
that only belongs to this
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