On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, John Levon wrote:
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 05:28:21PM +0300, Eran Tromer wrote:
A naive question of Bugzilla policy -- if this is an acknowledged by all
as a problematic issue, why mark it WONTFIX as opposed to setting a
far-away milestone or something? Definitely not
On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 06:49:04PM +0200, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote:
Agreed. My experience after using Bugzilla intensively for two years
is that you should relentlessly use WONTFIX, INVALID when you decide
that it's not beneficial to fix it for the next release.
Nooo, please let's not
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, John Levon wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 05:28:21PM +0300, Eran Tromer wrote:
>
> > A naive question of Bugzilla policy -- if this is an acknowledged by all
> > as a problematic issue, why mark it WONTFIX as opposed to setting a
> > far-away milestone or something?
On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 06:49:04PM +0200, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote:
> Agreed. My experience after using Bugzilla intensively for two years
> is that you should relentlessly use WONTFIX, INVALID when you decide
> that it's not beneficial to fix it for the next release.
Nooo, please let's
On 19-Apr-2002 Eran Tromer wrote:
(Note: the old screenshot was inaccurate, since I faked the cursor (it
wasn't captured) just to show where I'm putting it logically. I've now
updated the screenshow to be perfectly accurate.)
The inset is one line below and 1 pixel to the right of the
Juergen Vigna wrote:
On 19-Apr-2002 Eran Tromer wrote:
(Note: the old screenshot was inaccurate, since I faked the cursor (it
wasn't captured) just to show where I'm putting it logically. I've now
updated the screenshow to be perfectly accurate.)
The inset is one line below and 1 pixel to
On 22-Apr-2002 Eran Tromer wrote:
Anyway, at least now we're in sync: the criterion is strictly visual, to
the level of single pixels. Got it. Please allow me to try your patience
and go back to the original example (ERT in footnote).
#:O)
Cursor at beginning of footnote (right before
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 12:31:16PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
Hope you understand now that this is REALLY a minor annoyance in a VERY
certain situation, which, in your case, is VERY theoretical, isn't it?
My tuppenny's: I agree with both of you. From the user's point of view
this is a (very
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 12:31:16PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
I may agree on this with you. The problem is that we cannot fix this and
it is REALLY a very special case, isn't it? The problem is that the inset
wants to go down sees there is no row below and decides to unlock itself to
permit
On 22-Apr-2002 Andre Poenitz wrote:
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 12:31:16PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
I may agree on this with you. The problem is that we cannot fix this and
it is REALLY a very special case, isn't it? The problem is that the inset
wants to go down sees there is no row below
Juergen Vigna wrote:
On 22-Apr-2002 Eran Tromer wrote:
Now in this special case you don't have a row below the inset so it just
stays there. But IMO this is the right thing to do, so you just can go
on editing from that spot on.
Ah. If it happens only this case then ignoring it is fine by
Eran == Eran Tromer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Eran BTW, did you notice how LyX gets horribly slow when you create
Eran comments that are nested 15 levels deep?
I see why this may happen. But do you really want to do that?
JMarc
On 22-Apr-2002 Eran Tromer wrote:
A naive question of Bugzilla policy -- if this is an acknowledged by all
as a problematic issue, why mark it WONTFIX as opposed to setting a
far-away milestone or something? Definitely not 1.2.x stuff, but you do
want it addressed *sometime* by
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 04:42:08PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
BTW, did you notice how LyX gets horribly slow when you create comments
that are nested 15 levels deep?
We have to do too much update calls the more nesting we get because we
can never be sure what our child did.
Did I
On 22-Apr-2002 Andre Poenitz wrote:
Did I mention drawing in two phases: one for metrics computation and one
for the actual drawing lately?
Well in a certain mode we do this already, we draw it so many times until
we got all metrics ready and this can be a multiple step and it can take
more
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Andre On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 04:42:08PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
BTW, did you notice how LyX gets horribly slow when you create
comments that are nested 15 levels deep?
We have to do too much update calls the more nesting we get
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 05:01:12PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
Well in a certain mode we do this already, we draw it so many times until
we got all metrics ready and this can be a multiple step and it can take
more than 1 go to get it right depending on the nesting level. Look that
in
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 05:28:21PM +0300, Eran Tromer wrote:
A naive question of Bugzilla policy -- if this is an acknowledged by all
as a problematic issue, why mark it WONTFIX as opposed to setting a
far-away milestone or something? Definitely not 1.2.x stuff, but you do
want it
On 19-Apr-2002 Eran Tromer wrote:
> (Note: the old screenshot was inaccurate, since I faked the cursor (it
> wasn't captured) just to show where I'm putting it logically. I've now
> updated the screenshow to be perfectly accurate.)
>
> The inset is one line below and 1 pixel to the right of
Juergen Vigna wrote:
> On 19-Apr-2002 Eran Tromer wrote:
>
>>(Note: the old screenshot was inaccurate, since I faked the cursor (it
>>wasn't captured) just to show where I'm putting it logically. I've now
>>updated the screenshow to be perfectly accurate.)
>>
>>The inset is one line below and
On 22-Apr-2002 Eran Tromer wrote:
> Anyway, at least now we're in sync: the criterion is strictly visual, to
> the level of single pixels. Got it. Please allow me to try your patience
> and go back to the original example (ERT in footnote).
#:O)
> >>Cursor at beginning of footnote (right
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 12:31:16PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
> Hope you understand now that this is REALLY a minor annoyance in a VERY
> certain situation, which, in your case, is VERY theoretical, isn't it?
My tuppenny's: I agree with both of you. From the user's point of view
this is a
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 12:31:16PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
> I may agree on this with you. The problem is that we cannot fix this and
> it is REALLY a very special case, isn't it? The problem is that the inset
> wants to go down sees there is no row below and decides to unlock itself to
>
On 22-Apr-2002 Andre Poenitz wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 12:31:16PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
>> I may agree on this with you. The problem is that we cannot fix this and
>> it is REALLY a very special case, isn't it? The problem is that the inset
>> wants to go down sees there is no row
Juergen Vigna wrote:
> On 22-Apr-2002 Eran Tromer wrote:
> Now in this special case you don't have a row below the inset so it just
> stays there. But IMO this is the right thing to do, so you just can go
> on editing from that spot on.
Ah. If it happens only this case then ignoring it is fine
> "Eran" == Eran Tromer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Eran> BTW, did you notice how LyX gets horribly slow when you create
Eran> comments that are nested 15 levels deep?
I see why this may happen. But do you really want to do that?
JMarc
On 22-Apr-2002 Eran Tromer wrote:
> A naive question of Bugzilla policy -- if this is an acknowledged by all
> as a problematic issue, why mark it WONTFIX as opposed to setting a
> far-away milestone or something? Definitely not 1.2.x stuff, but you do
> want it addressed *sometime* by
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 04:42:08PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
> > BTW, did you notice how LyX gets horribly slow when you create comments
> > that are nested 15 levels deep?
>
> We have to do too much update calls the more nesting we get because we
> can never be sure what our child did.
Did
On 22-Apr-2002 Andre Poenitz wrote:
> Did I mention "drawing in two phases: one for metrics computation and one
> for the actual drawing" lately?
Well in a certain mode we do this already, we draw it so many times until
we got all metrics ready and this can be a multiple step and it can take
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 04:42:08PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
>> > BTW, did you notice how LyX gets horribly slow when you create
>> comments > that are nested 15 levels deep?
>>
>> We have to do too much update calls the more
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 05:01:12PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
> Well in a certain mode we do this already, we draw it so many times until
> we got all metrics ready and this can be a multiple step and it can take
> more than 1 go to get it right depending on the nesting level. Look that
> in
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 05:28:21PM +0300, Eran Tromer wrote:
> A naive question of Bugzilla policy -- if this is an acknowledged by all
> as a problematic issue, why mark it WONTFIX as opposed to setting a
> far-away milestone or something? Definitely not 1.2.x stuff, but you do
> want it
It's easier to discuss this on lyx-devel so I go for that way.
As before, in a new document create a footnote and within it an ERT inset.
Don't enter any text.
Cursor right before footnote:
Down does nothing, should enter footnote
Why you are at the left of the footnote and press DOWN
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 04:46:09PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
As before, in a new document create a footnote and within it an ERT inset.
Don't enter any text.
Cursor right before footnote:
Down does nothing, should enter footnote
Why you are at the left of the footnote and press
Juergen Vigna wrote:
It's easier to discuss this on lyx-devel so I go for that way.
As before, in a new document create a footnote and within it an ERT inset.
Don't enter any text.
Cursor right before footnote:
Down does nothing, should enter footnote
Why you are at the left of the
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 10:24:15PM +0300, Eran Tromer wrote:
We're missing something. Here's what I see with current CVS:
http://dl.tromer.org/nested.png
Since the footnote inset is the only thing visually below the cursor, I
would expect Down to go there.
Down should move down to the
John Levon wrote:
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 10:24:15PM +0300, Eran Tromer wrote:
We're missing something. Here's what I see with current CVS:
http://dl.tromer.org/nested.png
Since the footnote inset is the only thing visually below the cursor, I
would expect Down to go there.
Down
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 11:34:24PM +0300, Eran Tromer wrote:
http://dl.tromer.org/nested.png
This prefers logical behavior to visual behavior, in contradiction to
what you said earlier. Visually, the thing directly below the cursor is
the inset, so if you want visual behavior then
John Levon wrote:
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 11:34:24PM +0300, Eran Tromer wrote:
http://dl.tromer.org/nested.png
This prefers logical behavior to visual behavior, in contradiction to
what you said earlier. Visually, the thing directly below the cursor is
the inset, so if you want visual
It's easier to discuss this on lyx-devel so I go for that way.
> As before, in a new document create a footnote and within it an ERT inset.
> Don't enter any text.
>
> Cursor right before footnote:
>does nothing, should enter footnote
Why you are at the left of the footnote and press DOWN
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 04:46:09PM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote:
> > As before, in a new document create a footnote and within it an ERT inset.
> > Don't enter any text.
> >
> > Cursor right before footnote:
> >does nothing, should enter footnote
>
> Why you are at the left of the footnote
Juergen Vigna wrote:
> It's easier to discuss this on lyx-devel so I go for that way.
>
>>As before, in a new document create a footnote and within it an ERT inset.
>>Don't enter any text.
>>
>>Cursor right before footnote:
>> does nothing, should enter footnote
>
> Why you are at the left
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 10:24:15PM +0300, Eran Tromer wrote:
> We're missing something. Here's what I see with current CVS:
> http://dl.tromer.org/nested.png
> Since the footnote inset is the only thing visually below the cursor, I
> would expect to go there.
>
Down should move down to the
John Levon wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 10:24:15PM +0300, Eran Tromer wrote:
>
>
>>We're missing something. Here's what I see with current CVS:
>> http://dl.tromer.org/nested.png
>>Since the footnote inset is the only thing visually below the cursor, I
>>would expect to go there.
>>
>
>
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 11:34:24PM +0300, Eran Tromer wrote:
> >> http://dl.tromer.org/nested.png
>
> This prefers logical behavior to visual behavior, in contradiction to
> what you said earlier. Visually, the thing directly below the cursor is
> the inset, so if you want visual behavior
John Levon wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 11:34:24PM +0300, Eran Tromer wrote:
http://dl.tromer.org/nested.png
>>>
>>This prefers logical behavior to visual behavior, in contradiction to
>>what you said earlier. Visually, the thing directly below the cursor is
>>the inset, so if you want
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