Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Bo Peng ben@gmail.com writes: Rember the claim put forward a couple of posts ago: IMHO, we do not have enough manpower to use the git model. Which is just FUD. | Linux/core is huge and there are many components and subcomponents. | Groups of people work on these subcomponents and submit

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Bo Peng ben@gmail.com writes: LyX is a totally different story. LyX is a much smaller project. If two major features are developed separately, there are high probability of conflict. Did we ever had that situation? | Then what happened to XML and other branches? You really think that

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org writes: | Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: | i can continue with the problems for updating from the main tree compared | to svn if you like (these are not to prove git is something worse, but | to discard your claims that git know everything what svn plus something | more

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: Also since I find git-svn such a good solution I think there should be an official git repo that can be used to base a git clone on, and a cookbook on how to setup this repo for git-svn-svn interaction. if the intention was not to destroy svn i have no problem with

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
What has linux kernel development to do with lyx and its possible usage of git? I guess one can say with confidence that the way git was designed is related to linux development process. If you feel that your world is shattered because git commit dost not also push to the subversion

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Bo Peng writes: >> Rember the claim put forward a couple of posts ago: "IMHO, we do not >> have enough manpower to use the git model." >> >> Which is just FUD. > | Linux/core is huge and there are many components and subcomponents. | Groups of people work on these

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Bo Peng writes: >>> LyX is a totally different story. LyX is a much smaller project. If >>> two major features are developed separately, there are high >>> probability of conflict. >> >> Did we ever had that situation? > | Then what happened to XML and other branches? You

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Pavel Sanda writes: | Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: >> | i can continue with the problems for updating from the main tree compared >> | to svn if you like (these are not to prove git is something worse, but >> | to discard your claims that git know everything what svn plus something

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-08 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: > Also since I find git-svn such a good solution I think there should be > an official git repo that can be used to base a git clone on, and a > cookbook on how to setup this repo for git-svn<->svn interaction. if the intention was not to destroy svn i have no problem

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
What has linux kernel development to do with lyx and its possible usage of git? I guess one can say with confidence that the way git was designed is related to linux development process. If you feel that your world is shattered because git commit dost not also push to the subversion

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org writes: | Abdelrazak Younes wrote: As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. | to me this depends on what kind of development model you use and given | the number of lyx

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org writes: | Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org writes: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. to me this depends on what kind of

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: git supports it as well it does, but not as well. pavel

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Bo Peng ben@gmail.com writes: Not quite true. In a git world, a bug fixing would _always_ happen in a specific branch and be merged to the main repo when it's done; | This is not that useful if we keep the one developer - one feature | developing model. Right now, when you work on a

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org writes: | Bo Peng wrote: Not quite true. In a git world, a bug fixing would _always_ happen in a specific branch and be merged to the main repo when it's done; This is not that useful if we keep the one developer - one feature developing model. Right

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org writes: | Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org writes: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. to me

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: This is just bull. You are creating a model that is not optimal and saying this is due to git. | IMHO, we do not have enough manpower to use the git model. There is no such thing as the git model. for example i would like to hear how you directly commit to the

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjonnes wrote: | using git in the day job a while ago. The bright side is that there | are lots of helpful people around ;-) you is the general you, and personally is the, well, person you. So, you, as in Andre, already got experience with git ,great. (I would

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars Gullik Bjønnes a écrit : | For users that (try to) help us find bugs (and we need these people), | saying it did work at r1234 is easier that giving a hash (isn't this | how a git state is defined? here I show my ignorance about it). I do not quite get that... who is it easer to say r1234

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I belive github might be a good place for the repo and the wiki (other can judge better than me). And do we really need the regular web space if the wiki is good? What's the'regular web space'? Does that mean the web pages? /C -- Christian

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org writes: | Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: This is just bull. You are creating a model that is not optimal and saying this is due to git. | IMHO, we do not have enough manpower to use the git model. There is no such thing as the git model. | for example i would like

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Christian Ridderström christian.ridderst...@gmail.com writes: | On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I belive github might be a good place for the repo and the wiki (other can judge better than me). And do we really need the regular web space if the wiki is good? | What's

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I do not quite get that... who is it easer to say r1234 instead of 23ae45? I like the fact that revision numbers form an increasing timeline. I guess one advantage with r1234 is if you manually bisect between revisions to see when a bug

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I'd love to get rid of bugzilla anyway... it is a superhassle to upgrade... Is it practical to stop using bugzilla if we already have many references to issues in bugzilla, or to changesets or whatever? I think this was asked elsewhere by

Wiki and web space (Was: Interest in using git with lyx svn)

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I belive github might be a good place for the repo and the wiki (other can judge better than me). And do we really need the regular web space if the wiki is good? | What's the'regular web

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: | IMHO, we do not have enough manpower to use the git model. There is no such thing as the git model. | for example i would like to hear how you directly commit to the main | repository - some _one_ command equivalent to svn ci. why is it bad to use _two_?

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Christian Ridderström wrote: On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I do not quite get that... who is it easer to say r1234 instead of 23ae45? I like the fact that revision numbers form an increasing timeline. I guess one advantage with r1234 is if you manually bisect between

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org writes: | Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: | IMHO, we do not have enough manpower to use the git model. There is no such thing as the git model. | for example i would like to hear how you directly commit to the main | repository - some _one_ command equivalent to

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org writes: | Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org writes: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. to me

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Bo Peng
Rember the claim put forward a couple of posts ago: IMHO, we do not have enough manpower to use the git model. Which is just FUD. Linux/core is huge and there are many components and subcomponents. Groups of people work on these subcomponents and submit their tested patches to their

Services related to LyX (Was: Interest in using git with lyx svn)

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: main ftp is not on aussie malinglist (mainly) is not on aussie dns servers is not on aussie To start a list of services. I thought I'd e-mailed that earlier, but it seems lost. /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile:

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: | i can continue with the problems for updating from the main tree compared | to svn if you like (these are not to prove git is something worse, but | to discard your claims that git know everything what svn plus something | more | - two different tools for two

Re: Services related to LyX (Was: Interest in using git with lyx svn)

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Christian Ridderström wrote: Here's an updated list of services. Should probably put this on a wiki page eventually. Please add/comment about stuff I've forgotten. !!! Services related to LyX and LyX development. * Web site http://www.lyx.org On aussie. * Wiki

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 11:39:07AM -0600, Bo Peng wrote: LyX is a totally different story. LyX is a much smaller project. If two major features are developed separately, there are high probability of conflict. Did we ever had that situation? Subversion does this perfectly because everyone is

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Bo Peng
LyX is a totally different story. LyX is a much smaller project. If two major features are developed separately, there are high probability of conflict. Did we ever had that situation? Then what happened to XML and other branches? LyX is sufficiently small so that you can not leave trunk

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 07/03/2009 18:57, Pavel Sanda wrote: Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: | i can continue with the problems for updating from the main tree compared | to svn if you like (these are not to prove git is something worse, but | to discard your claims that git know everything what svn plus something |

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Pavel Sanda writes: | Abdelrazak Younes wrote: >> As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a >> different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. > | to me this depends on what kind of development model you use and given | the number of

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: | Pavel Sanda writes: > >> Abdelrazak Younes wrote: >>> As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a >>> different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. >> >> to me this depends on what

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: > git supports it as well it does, but not as well. pavel

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Bo Peng writes: >> Not quite true. In a git world, a bug fixing would _always_ happen in a >> specific branch and be merged to the main repo when it's done; > | This is not that useful if we keep the one developer - one feature | developing model. Right now, when you work on a

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Abdelrazak Younes writes: | Bo Peng wrote: >>> Not quite true. In a git world, a bug fixing would _always_ happen in a >>> specific branch and be merged to the main repo when it's done; >>> >> >> This is not that useful if we keep the one developer - one feature >>

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Abdelrazak Younes writes: | Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Pavel Sanda writes: >> >> >>> Abdelrazak Younes wrote: >>> As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: > This is just bull. You are creating a model that is not optimal and > saying this is due to git. > > | IMHO, we do not have enough manpower to use the git model. > > There is no such thing as the "git model". for example i would like to hear how you directly commit

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjonnes wrote: | using git in the day job a while ago. The bright side is that there | are lots of helpful people around ;-) you is the general you, and personally is the, well, person you. So, you, as in Andre, already got experience with git ,great. (I would

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars Gullik Bjønnes a écrit : | For users that (try to) help us find bugs (and we need these people), | saying "it did work at r1234" is easier that giving a hash (isn't this | how a git state is defined? here I show my ignorance about it). I do not quite get that... who is it easer to say

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I belive github might be a good place for the repo and the wiki (other can judge better than me). And do we really need the regular web space if the wiki is good? What's the'regular web space'? Does that mean the web pages? /C -- Christian

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Pavel Sanda writes: | Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: >> This is just bull. You are creating a model that is not optimal and >> saying this is due to git. >> >> | IMHO, we do not have enough manpower to use the git model. >> >> There is no such thing as the "git model". > | for

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Christian Ridderström writes: | On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > >> I belive github might be a good place for the repo and the wiki >> (other can judge better than me). And do we really need the regular >> web space if the wiki is good? > | What's

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I do not quite get that... who is it easer to say r1234 instead of 23ae45? I like the fact that revision numbers form an increasing timeline. I guess one advantage with r1234 is if you manually bisect between revisions to see when a bug

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I'd love to get rid of bugzilla anyway... it is a superhassle to upgrade... Is it practical to stop using bugzilla if we already have many references to issues in bugzilla, or to changesets or whatever? I think this was asked elsewhere by

Wiki and web space (Was: Interest in using git with lyx svn)

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I belive github might be a good place for the repo and the wiki (other can judge better than me). And do we really need the regular web space if the wiki is good? | What's the'regular web

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: > >> | IMHO, we do not have enough manpower to use the git model. > >> > >> There is no such thing as the "git model". > > > | for example i would like to hear how you directly commit to the main > | repository - some _one_ command equivalent to svn ci. > > why is it

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Christian Ridderström wrote: > On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >>> I do not quite get that... who is it easer to say r1234 instead of >>> 23ae45? >> >> I like the fact that revision numbers form an increasing timeline. > > I guess one advantage with r1234 is if you manually

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Pavel Sanda writes: | Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: >> >> | IMHO, we do not have enough manpower to use the git model. >> >> >> >> There is no such thing as the "git model". >> > >> | for example i would like to hear how you directly commit to the main >> | repository - some _one_

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: > > | Pavel Sanda writes: > > > >> Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > >>> As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a > >>> different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Bo Peng
> Rember the claim put forward a couple of posts ago: "IMHO, we do not > have enough manpower to use the git model." > > Which is just FUD. Linux/core is huge and there are many components and subcomponents. Groups of people work on these subcomponents and submit their tested patches to their

Services related to LyX (Was: Interest in using git with lyx svn)

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: main ftp is not on aussie malinglist (mainly) is not on aussie dns servers is not on aussie To start a list of services. I thought I'd e-mailed that earlier, but it seems lost. /C -- Christian Ridderström Mobile:

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Pavel Sanda
Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: > | i can continue with the problems for updating from the main tree compared > | to svn if you like (these are not to prove git is something worse, but > | to discard your claims that git know everything what svn plus something > | more > | - two different tools for two

Re: Services related to LyX (Was: Interest in using git with lyx svn)

2009-03-07 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Christian Ridderström wrote: Here's an updated list of services. Should probably put this on a wiki page eventually. Please add/comment about stuff I've forgotten. !!! Services related to LyX and LyX development. * Web site http://www.lyx.org On aussie. * Wiki

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 11:39:07AM -0600, Bo Peng wrote: > LyX is a totally different story. LyX is a much smaller project. If > two major features are developed separately, there are high > probability of conflict. Did we ever had that situation? > Subversion does this perfectly because

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Bo Peng
>> LyX is a totally different story. LyX is a much smaller project. If >> two major features are developed separately, there are high >> probability of conflict. > > Did we ever had that situation? Then what happened to XML and other branches? LyX is sufficiently small so that you can not leave

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-07 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
On 07/03/2009 18:57, Pavel Sanda wrote: Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: | i can continue with the problems for updating from the main tree compared | to svn if you like (these are not to prove git is something worse, but | to discard your claims that git know everything what svn plus something |

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. to me this depends on what kind of development model you use and given the number of lyx developers and the way we proceed i think

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Pavel Sanda wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. to me this depends on what kind of development model you use and given the number of lyx developers and

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: to me this depends on what kind of development model you use and given the number of lyx developers and the way we proceed i think the centralized way is the better one. So the LyX devs are a bunch of old, lazy and stubborn guys? somehow i fail to follow your

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org writes: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. to me this depends on what kind of development model you use and given the number of lyx

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: From what I understand about git, it is lost in the new world. yes pavel

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org writes: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. to me this depends on what kind of development model

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Bo Peng
Not quite true. In a git world, a bug fixing would _always_ happen in a specific branch and be merged to the main repo when it's done; This is not that useful if we keep the one developer - one feature developing model. Right now, when you work on a feature, all others are forced to check it

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Bo Peng wrote: Not quite true. In a git world, a bug fixing would _always_ happen in a specific branch and be merged to the main repo when it's done; This is not that useful if we keep the one developer - one feature developing model. Right now, when you work on a feature, all others are

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: IMHO, we do not have enough manpower to use the git model. Well, we are not _forced_ to use only one merging per feature, this can be split into logical steps (at the intiative of the developer). but this split is what makes revision numbers useful. i just see

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org writes: Anyway, I'll use whatever is decided... Really? I thought you were an old, lazy and stubborn guy... Lazy is the operative word. I am not contributing that much, so I cannot complain. At worst I'll send patches to the list so that others apply them :)

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org writes: Anyway, I'll use whatever is decided... Really? I thought you were an old, lazy and stubborn guy... Lazy is the operative word. I am not contributing that much, so I cannot complain. At worst I'll send

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 07:29:54AM -0600, Bo Peng wrote: Not quite true. In a git world, a bug fixing would _always_ happen in a specific branch and be merged to the main repo when it's done; This is not that useful if we keep the one developer - one feature developing model. Right now,

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 07:29:54AM -0600, Bo Peng wrote: Not quite true. In a git world, a bug fixing would _always_ happen in a specific branch and be merged to the main repo when it's done; This is not that useful if we keep the one developer - one feature

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 06:52:41PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: Andre Poenitz wrote: the same way as LyX svn trunk is currently treated. You can push your work pretty much in the same chunks as you would today. but the flamed point was not about _pushing_. rather it was about commit

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a > different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. to me this depends on what kind of development model you use and given the number of lyx developers and the way we proceed i think

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Pavel Sanda wrote: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. to me this depends on what kind of development model you use and given the number of lyx developers and

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: >> to me this depends on what kind of development model you use and given >> the number of lyx developers and the way we proceed i think the >> centralized >> way is the better one. >> > > So the LyX devs are a bunch of old, lazy and stubborn guys? somehow i fail to

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Pavel Sanda writes: > Abdelrazak Younes wrote: >> As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a >> different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. > > to me this depends on what kind of development model you use and given > the number of

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > From what I understand about git, it is lost in the new world. yes pavel

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Pavel Sanda writes: Abdelrazak Younes wrote: As for refering to a svn revision instead of a git branch, this is a different mental model indeed, but not not a loss of function IMHO. to me this depends on what kind of development

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Bo Peng
> Not quite true. In a git world, a bug fixing would _always_ happen in a > specific branch and be merged to the main repo when it's done; This is not that useful if we keep the one developer - one feature developing model. Right now, when you work on a feature, all others are forced to check it

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Bo Peng wrote: Not quite true. In a git world, a bug fixing would _always_ happen in a specific branch and be merged to the main repo when it's done; This is not that useful if we keep the one developer - one feature developing model. Right now, when you work on a feature, all others are

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: >> IMHO, we do not have enough manpower to use the git model. >> > > Well, we are not _forced_ to use only one merging per feature, this can be > split into logical steps (at the intiative of the developer). but this split is what makes revision numbers useful. i just

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Abdelrazak Younes writes: >> Anyway, I'll use whatever is decided... >> > Really? I thought you were an old, lazy and stubborn guy... Lazy is the operative word. I am not contributing that much, so I cannot complain. At worst I'll send patches to the list so that others apply

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes writes: Anyway, I'll use whatever is decided... Really? I thought you were an old, lazy and stubborn guy... Lazy is the operative word. I am not contributing that much, so I cannot complain. At worst I'll send

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 07:29:54AM -0600, Bo Peng wrote: > > Not quite true. In a git world, a bug fixing would _always_ happen in a > > specific branch and be merged to the main repo when it's done; > > This is not that useful if we keep the one developer - one feature > developing model. Right

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Pavel Sanda
Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 07:29:54AM -0600, Bo Peng wrote: > > > Not quite true. In a git world, a bug fixing would _always_ happen in a > > > specific branch and be merged to the main repo when it's done; > > > > This is not that useful if we keep the one developer - one

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 06:52:41PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Andre Poenitz wrote: > > the same way as LyX svn trunk is currently treated. You can push your > > work pretty much in the same chunks as you would today. > > but the flamed point was not about _pushing_. rather it was about commit >

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org writes: | Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: If there are interest I'll try to setup a git tree that you can clone and set up as a git-svn tree. (I'll even write up a wiki page to explain briefly how to do that.) | this is already done on git.or.cz, though not

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
lar...@lyx.org (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes: I'd like you to name some... I only know of a few and as of current they seem to be of very little importance. I belive the benefit of not having to handle the daily (or yearly) churn of chores is a really good thing. Setting up automatic generation

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Peter Kümmel syntheti...@gmx.net writes: What about a 'evaluation'? Possible candidates are: ww.sf.net www.assembla.com github.com repo.or.cz savannah, launchpad, tigris, or more generally http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_software_hosting_facilities What we need to look at

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org writes: What we need to look at is the possibility to get all our data back if we want to leave. Whasn't that a problem with sf.net? In this respect, I'd favor hosting from free software projects like alioth (debian), launchpad (ubuntu,although this is a

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org writes: | Peter Kümmel syntheti...@gmx.net writes: What about a 'evaluation'? Possible candidates are: ww.sf.net www.assembla.com github.com repo.or.cz | savannah, launchpad, tigris, or more generally |

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org writes: | Jean-Marc Lasgouttes lasgout...@lyx.org writes: What we need to look at is the possibility to get all our data back if we want to leave. Whasn't that a problem with sf.net? | In this respect, I'd favor hosting from free software projects like |

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
lar...@gullik.org (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes: What do you mean by get all our data back? I do not quite understand how that can be a problem Have access to our raw svn/git data to host it else where (but this is probably moot with git). Have access to our bug database data to do whatever we

Non-developer patches (Was: RE: Interest in using git with lyx svn)

2009-03-05 Thread Roland Clobus
Thursday 5 March 2009, 11:06 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: I took a look at sf.net and problems _may_ be: ... - non developers cannot attach patches/files to bugs http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=21aid=2568036gro up_id=1)! Non-developers are able to create a new item in the

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2009-03-04, Peter Kümmel wrote: Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Bo Peng ben@gmail.com writes: The bug database might be a problem... | I know that many people dislike sourceforge but sourceforge supports | pmwiki (our web), trac, and some project and bug tracking systems... |

Re: Interest in using git with lyx svn

2009-03-05 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 12:22:58AM +0100, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: Hi, | I need to upgrade that server to Centos 5.2, but once that's done You are aware that Centos 5.3 will be out in a couple of weeks? In almost all cases that will be a rather smooth upgrade. I've some RHEL 5 here

  1   2   3   >