On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 03:28:36PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > There is zero advantage to having tabular enabled as well,
>
> The advantage is not to have to disable it which seems to be non-trivial.
The users don't care how trivial it is or not, they just want it. And
there is no good reas
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 01:54:04PM +0100, John Levon wrote:
> Documenting ? Nobody reads any documentation.
Of course not. But Jean-Marc was refering to documentation for some obscure
reason or the other...
> There is zero advantage to having tabular enabled as well,
The advantage is not to hav
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 02:43:22PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> Currently we are talking about _disabling_ things.
So ? It's still very much UI
> [Maybe that's all because I am no big friend of disabling things when
> not disabling it would still yield a decent behaviour. And documenting
> Ta
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 02:26:54PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> John, would a solution be to have a "Table" toplevel menu, so that
> people would see that it is enabled when one is in a math array? Hmm,
> probably not.
This would be only a little better. After all, people will be looking
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 02:26:54PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Great. And then in the manual, you add a description of
> "Edit->Tabular->Add line" that says: ``add some line somwhere''.
> That's really helpful.
>
> Andre, the problem I have with your approach is that you make choices
> o
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 02:03:34PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> [*] but actually, it is not me that wrote it, but John, so Andre' you
> should not be angry at me for saying you don't get the point,
> right?
Yes bring on the wrath I can take it !
I'm in a good mood because my s
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 02:03:34PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre> wrote:
>> This is the point I was trying to make in the fonts thread... [*]
>>
>> JMarc
>>
>> [*] but actually, it is not me that wrote it, but John, so Andre'
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> Well, so copy the menu. I don't care. The only "problem" is
Andre> that the tabular stuff is not disabled when in math. But I'd
Andre> count that even as a feature, as "Edit->Tabular->Add line" will
Andre> add some line somewhere.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 02:03:34PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> This is the point I was trying to make in the fonts thread... [*]
>
> JMarc
>
> [*] but actually, it is not me that wrote it, but John, so Andre' you
> should not be angry at me for saying you don't get the point,
>
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 12:59:10PM +0100, John Levon wrote:
> I expect my Math stuff to be under ... the Math menu. I'd really love to
> get you into a UI lab and make you watch new users trying to find how to
> add a row to an eqnarray !!
Well, so copy the menu. I don't care. The only "problem"
> "John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> André you need to start looking beyond how things are
John> implemented and /think/ about what the /users/ see.
This is the point I was trying to make in the fonts thread... [*]
JMarc
[*] but actually, it is not me that wrote it, but
On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 08:46:11AM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> What's wrong with going to the tabular menu if you want to edit table-like
> stuff even when within math?
Do you see a menu that says "table-like stuff" ? No. André you need to
start looking beyond how things are implemented and /t
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> What's wrong with going to the tabular menu if you want to edit
Andre> table-like stuff even when within math?
What is wrong is that, in Insert>Math menu, there is nothing that says
that what you are inserting is somehow related t
On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 05:53:38PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> John> Ouch, yes, I hadn't thought of this problem :/
>
> As I see it, either we have one menu and one lfun, or two menus for
> two lfuns.
>
> Would it be possible to rename/move the tabular menu so that it makes
> sense for
On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 05:16:09PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Andre> I really don't care too much. Try to get consensus among those
> Andre> who care and change it.
>
> I think the problem was to use tabular feature for maths. As it is
> now, the Edit>Math>Array would be enabled if we a
On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 05:53:38PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Would it be possible to rename/move the tabular menu so that it makes
> sense for math and tables?
I don't believe so.
regards
john
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> "John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 05:16:09PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
John> wrote:
>> I think the problem was to use tabular feature for maths. As it is
>> now, the Edit>Math>Array would be enabled if we are inside a
>> tabular, whereas there
On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 05:16:09PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> I think the problem was to use tabular feature for maths. As it is
> now, the Edit>Math>Array would be enabled if we are inside a tabular,
> whereas there is no math array in sight.
Ouch, yes, I hadn't thought of this proble
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andre> On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 03:28:35PM +0100, John Levon wrote:
>> > > You have to use the tabular menu. This must be fixed in the
>> menus before > > 1.3.0
>> >
>> > How? By duplicating Edit->Tabular under Edit->Math->Array??
>>
>>
On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 03:28:35PM +0100, John Levon wrote:
> > > You have to use the tabular menu. This must be fixed in the menus before
> > > 1.3.0
> >
> > How? By duplicating Edit->Tabular under Edit->Math->Array??
>
> Something like that. Wanting to reduce the complexity of the menus is a
>
On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 01:12:46PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote:
> > You have to use the tabular menu. This must be fixed in the menus before
> > 1.3.0
>
> How? By duplicating Edit->Tabular under Edit->Math->Array??
Something like that. Wanting to reduce the complexity of the menus is a
laudable
On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 11:59:57PM +0100, John Levon wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:43:56PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote:
>
> > In LyX-1.2.x you could change the alignment using the menu (in Edit>Math),
> > but I don't see these items in 1.3.0.
> > What happened to these items ?
>
> You have to
On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:43:56PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2002 at 05:58:22PM +0100, John Levon wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 14, 2002 at 09:25:50PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote:
> >
> > > Of course it makes a difference. It changes the vertical alignment of the
> > > matrix.
> >
> > Oh I
It doesn't seem to make any difference (selecting the tabular
menu items).
How would mathed users feel about not having the math panel matrix
dialog at all ?
regards
john
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