Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-28 Thread Helge Hafting
Marwan Boustany wrote: I understand, but one thing I noticed when allowing them to go on another page is that in the place where the figures used to be there is a gap in the text... If you put the float on a line of its own, then you have created a paragraph break and so there will be a gap

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Les Denham
On Tuesday 20 May 2008, G. Milde wrote: > Thanks. Encouraged by this and following an old tradition on this list, I > include a link to Herbert Voß' "Tips and Tricks" pages: > > All about floats: >   http://www.texnik.de/cgi-bin/mainFAQ.cgi?file=floats/floats > > Float parameters: >   http://www.te

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread G. Milde
On 20.05.08, Les Denham wrote: > On Tuesday 20 May 2008, G. Milde wrote: > > The counters topnumber and bottomnumber determine how many floats are > > allowed on one page and the commands \topfraction, \bottomfraction and > > \textfraction determine how much space they might take. > > > > Change wi

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Les Denham
On Tuesday 20 May 2008, G. Milde wrote: > The counters topnumber and bottomnumber determine how many floats are > allowed on one page and the commands \topfraction, \bottomfraction and > \textfraction determine how much space they might take. > > Change with e.g. \setcounter{topnumber}{4} > or \ren

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Marwan Boustany wrote: On Tue, 20 May 2008 08:31:42 +0100, Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marwan Boustany wrote: As it happens the graphics are large, taking up, lengthwise about 40% of the page. And they tend to need to be where i put them for the most part. For dual side

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I myself didn't understand why Uwe ;-) Hum... that was a typo of course, I meant: I myself didn't understand it, Uwe. Abdel

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I myself didn't understand why Uwe ;-) It is because he. He what? This thrad is becoming surrealistic :-) Abdel.

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Abdelrazak Younes schrieb: Well that's an insulting joke IMHO, No, it's OK, I just was in the mood to make a littel joke and he made one two (a nice attempt btw.), so everything is fine. regards Uwe

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Marwan Boustany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I understand, but one thing I noticed when allowing them to go on > another page is that in the place where the figures used to be there > is a gap in the text... This should not happen. Is there something special about the place where you includ

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Marwan Boustany
On Tue, 20 May 2008 08:25:53 +0100, Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marwan Boustany wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:12:57 +0100, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Marwan Boustany schrieb: Peace, Nice joke. It was not a joke, if I wanted to joke I could say, " What is the difference b

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Marwan Boustany
On Tue, 20 May 2008 09:35:35 +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Marwan Boustany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Finally, I may need to refer to up to three pictures in one paragraph, hence the need for the captions. I this case you might want to reconsider the placement o

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Marwan Boustany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Finally, I may need to refer to up to three pictures in one paragraph, > hence the need for the captions. I this case you might want to reconsider the placement on a separate page. By placing some images that fit together on a page, you will give so

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Marwan Boustany
On Tue, 20 May 2008 08:31:42 +0100, Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marwan Boustany wrote: As it happens the graphics are large, taking up, lengthwise about 40% of the page. And they tend to need to be where i put them for the most part. For dual side document, my experie

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Marwan Boustany
On Tue, 20 May 2008 09:17:07 +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 08:29:19PM +0100, Marwan Boustany wrote: I think the point with me is that I have text and graphics in a way that the graphics really must b

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I myself didn't understand why Uwe ;-) It is because he. JMarc

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 08:29:19PM +0100, Marwan Boustany wrote: >> I think the point with me is that I have text and graphics in a way that >> the graphics really must be exactly where i put them, spacing as per latex >> formating is fine, but I canno

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread G. Milde
On 20.05.08, Marwan Boustany wrote: > On Tue, 20 May 2008 00:49:45 +0100, Steve Litt wrote: >> On Monday 19 May 2008 12:51, Marwan Boustany wrote: >>> Is it necessary to force [e]very float to be 'here definitely' if I >>> actually want it to be correctly placed in the text? * If you want it ex

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Uwe Stöhr wrote: Marwan Boustany schrieb: Peace, Nice joke. Just FYI 'Salam' in Arabic real meaning is 'Peace'. But that's the word Arabic people uses to say hello. Salam, Abdel.

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Marwan Boustany wrote: As it happens the graphics are large, taking up, lengthwise about 40% of the page. And they tend to need to be where i put them for the most part. For dual side document, my experience is that, when a graphic is large (and 40% of the page height is certainly large enoug

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-20 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Marwan Boustany wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:12:57 +0100, Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marwan Boustany schrieb: Peace, Nice joke. It was not a joke, if I wanted to joke I could say, " What is the difference between a store and a stohr?" and someone else would say "what?", the

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 19 May 2008 19:56, Marwan Boustany wrote: > > Thank you for the response... > > As it happens the graphics are large, taking up, lengthwise about 40% of > the page. And they tend to need to be where i put them for the most part. Yeah, I've got a bunch like that. The best way I've found

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Marwan Boustany
On Tue, 20 May 2008 00:49:45 +0100, Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 19 May 2008 12:51, Marwan Boustany wrote: Peace, Is it necessary to force very float to be 'here definitely' if I actually want it to be correctly placed in the text? Marwan, You might want to read this

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 19 May 2008 12:51, Marwan Boustany wrote: > Peace, > > Is it necessary to force very float to be 'here definitely' if I actually > want it to be correctly placed in the text? Marwan, You might want to read this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#courtesy Calling an as

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Marwan Boustany
On Mon, 19 May 2008 20:39:48 +0100, Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 08:29:19PM +0100, Marwan Boustany wrote: The default placement is typically not that bad as long as there is a sufficient amount of "regular" text in the documnet. Andre' I think the point

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Marwan Boustany
On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:12:57 +0100, Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marwan Boustany schrieb: Peace, Nice joke. It was not a joke, if I wanted to joke I could say, " What is the difference between a store and a stohr?" and someone else would say "what?", then I would say "You can

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Marwan Boustany schrieb: Peace, Nice joke. Is it necessary to force very float to be 'here definitely' if I actually want it to be correctly placed in the text? You can use the document wide option in the document settings menu, but this will affect all floats of your document. I would th

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 08:29:19PM +0100, Marwan Boustany wrote: >> The default placement is typically not that bad as long as there is >> a sufficient amount of "regular" text in the documnet. >> >> Andre' > > I think the point with me is that I have text and graphics in a way that > the graphics

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Marwan Boustany
On Mon, 19 May 2008 19:49:35 +0100, Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 05:51:50PM +0100, Marwan Boustany wrote: Peace, Is it necessary to force very float to be 'here definitely' if I actually want it to be correctly placed in the text? Yes. I tried to lea

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Marwan Boustany
On Mon, 19 May 2008 19:45:03 +0100, Rich Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2008, Marwan Boustany wrote: Actually, when i tried to copy it to another new lyx file, the defaults of my thesis document somehow went to the new one, so it was functioning with 'here definitely'

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 05:51:50PM +0100, Marwan Boustany wrote: > Peace, > > Is it necessary to force very float to be 'here definitely' if I actually > want it to be correctly placed in the text? Yes. > I tried to leave all floats at default, and when the pdf was created, there > were floats

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Marwan Boustany wrote: Actually, when i tried to copy it to another new lyx file, the defaults of my thesis document somehow went to the new one, so it was functioning with 'here definitely' functionality' So I can post a portion which formats incorrectly... here it is as

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Marwan Boustany
Actually, when i tried to copy it to another new lyx file, the defaults of my thesis document somehow went to the new one, so it was functioning with 'here definitely' functionality' So I can post a portion which formats incorrectly... here it is as a lyx file. thank you for your help, -- Peac

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Marwan Boustany wrote: The preamble is empty, float placement is set at default in document settings, and all the floats are set at default. Though it must be stated that I had the default float positioning set at 'here definitely' for a while. Marwan, You're not using

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Marwan Boustany
On Mon, 19 May 2008 18:11:16 +0100, Rich Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2008, Marwan Boustany wrote: Is it necessary to force very float to be 'here definitely' if I actually want it to be correctly placed in the text? That probably depends on how 'correctly' is def

Re: Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Rich Shepard
On Mon, 19 May 2008, Marwan Boustany wrote: Is it necessary to force very float to be 'here definitely' if I actually want it to be correctly placed in the text? That probably depends on how 'correctly' is defined. I tried to leave all floats at default, and when the pdf was created, there

Default Float placement is pathetic

2008-05-19 Thread Marwan Boustany
Peace, Is it necessary to force very float to be 'here definitely' if I actually want it to be correctly placed in the text? I tried to leave all floats at default, and when the pdf was created, there were floats in the middle of itemize lists, on the wrong pages and even in the wrong ord