Why Lyx ?

2001-09-05 Thread petemartin
Having used Word (4,5 95, 97) for many years in industry (it was a corporate standard) and at home, and having also used many other document preparation tools on Windoze and Unix, I would like to add my tuppence worth to this. Just to be clear, this is not a rant against word, but a comment tha

Why Lyx?

2001-09-05 Thread Kathryn Andersen
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:30:14AM +0200, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: > This opens up a question: if you leave alone the fact that lyx is > free.. and that the underlying latex is supposely bug free. why > features does lyx offer that word doesnt? (the contrary isnt really to > be asked :) ) . I me

Re: Why Lyx ?

2001-09-05 Thread Robin Turner
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am using LyX to prepare conference papers and also my PhD thesis. What I > find really powerful is the ability to format a large document in different > ways, without having the source change in any substantial way. This is very

Re: Why LyX?

2001-09-05 Thread Robin Turner
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 03:30, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: > > This opens up a question: if you leave alone the fact that lyx is free.. > and that the underlying latex is supposely bug free. why features does lyx > offer that word doesnt? (the contrary isnt really to be asked :) ) . I > mea

Re: Why LyX?

2001-09-05 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 12:57:49PM +0300, Robin Turner wrote: > Oh yes, and there's the pretty PS/PDF output as well. An untutored eye may > not immediately pick up on the difference between the same document in > LyX->LaTeX->PS and a standard word-processor, but I think there's a > sublimina

Re: Why Lyx ?

2001-09-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 04:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Finally, I like the idea that my work will be accessible in its source > format in 20 or 30 years time, as long as I have a readable ascii file, I > can get to it, I would be surprised if I could do the same with a Word > format doc

Re: Why Lyx ?

2001-09-05 Thread Robin Turner
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 14:48, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wednesday 05 September 2001 04:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Finally, I like the idea that my work will be accessible in its source > > format in 20 or 30 years time, as long as I have a readable ascii file, I > > can get to it, I wou

Re: Why Lyx ?

2001-09-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:53:57PM +0300, Robin Turner wrote: > Well, that goes for most formats other than the notorious .doc. That does not even hold for most .ps files. Having a format using ASCII char does not necessarily mean you can read it painlessly... Andre' -- André Pönitz ..

Re: Why Lyx ?

2001-09-05 Thread Robin Turner
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 15:02, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:53:57PM +0300, Robin Turner wrote: > > Well, that goes for most formats other than the notorious .doc. > > That does not even hold for most .ps files. Having a format using ASCII > char does not necessarily mea

Re: Why Lyx ?

2001-09-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 03:28:24PM +0300, Robin Turner wrote: > increasingly popular variants on XML. Things like 0ASE9ASDJ8923HJ894798Q374EHS90WAE7423329298UEWQJLKEFD09W4720734U [...] 09SADASDJF394RTHSAD8J34HJ8F7EWHEU89SKLIO398KDFJKF89S9SDYOEFSWEFO ? ;-) Andre' -- André Pönitz ...

Re: why Lyx ?

2001-09-05 Thread petemartin
Yes, I had in mind the input markup being of use in 20 years time, as opposed to the output format de jour. I have in my collections some old files in runnof (from Prime computers amongst others) and nroff files that I can readily access with vi. This works of course only if you have the means

Re: Why Lyx?

2001-09-05 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:08:24PM +1000, Kathryn Andersen wrote: > One thing that LyX definitely does worse is fonts -- but that's because > of the limitations of TeX. Does anyone know if that's ever likely to > improve? what do you mean here ? regards john -- "This is mindless pedantism up

Re: Why Lyx?

2001-09-05 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
>>Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:08:24 +1000 >>From: Kathryn Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Why Lyx? >> >>On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 02:30:14AM +0200, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: >>> This opens up a question: if you leave

Re: Why Lyx?

2001-09-05 Thread Robin Turner
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 17:24, John Levon wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:08:24PM +1000, Kathryn Andersen wrote: > > One thing that LyX definitely does worse is fonts -- but that's because > > of the limitations of TeX. Does anyone know if that's ever likely to > > improve? > > what do

Re: Why Lyx?

2001-09-05 Thread Robin Turner
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 17:45, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: > >>Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:08:24 +1000 > >>From: Kathryn Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: Why Lyx? > >>I wish I could use Lyx at work. Unfo

Re: Why Lyx?

2001-09-05 Thread Jean-Pierre.Chretien
>>From: Robin Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: Why Lyx? >>Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:51:33 +0300 >> >>On Wednesday 05 September 2001 17:45, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: >>> >>Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:0

Re: Why LyX?

2001-09-05 Thread Ronald Florence
John Levon writes: I've turned tens of normal students onto lyx instead of word (even unix-hating students) entirely as a result of the output. Yes, but ... I've never used ms-word, and haven't used any PC word-processing program since the first version of word-perfect. For 16 years I've

Re: Why LyX?

2001-09-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 05 September 2001 16:09, you wrote: > John Levon writes: > > I've turned tens of normal students onto lyx instead > of word (even unix-hating students) entirely as a result of the output. > > Yes, but ... > > I've never used ms-word, and haven't used any PC word-processing > progr

Re: Why LyX?

2001-09-06 Thread Joao B. Oliveira
> On Wednesday 05 September 2001 16:09, you wrote: > > John Levon writes: > > > > I've turned tens of normal students onto lyx instead > > of word (even unix-hating students) entirely as a result of the output. > > > > Yes, but ... My two bits: The effect on my students has been the same. Tw

Re: Why Lyx?

2001-09-06 Thread Kathryn Andersen
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 04:45:44PM +0200, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: > > >>Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:08:24 +1000 > >>From: Kathryn Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: Why Lyx? > >> > >>On Wed, Sep 05,

Re: Why Lyx?

2001-09-06 Thread Kathryn Andersen
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 05:51:33PM +0300, Robin Turner wrote: > On Wednesday 05 September 2001 17:45, Jean-Pierre.Chretien wrote: > > >>Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:08:24 +1000 > > >>From: Kathryn Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] &g

Re: Why Lyx?

2001-09-06 Thread Kathryn Andersen
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 05:46:55PM +0300, Robin Turner wrote: > On Wednesday 05 September 2001 17:24, John Levon wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:08:24PM +1000, Kathryn Andersen wrote: > > > One thing that LyX definitely does worse is fonts -- but that's because > > > of the limitations of Te

Installing fonts [was: Re: Why Lyx?]

2001-09-07 Thread Robin Turner
On Friday 07 September 2001 01:51, Kathryn Andersen wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 05:46:55PM +0300, Robin Turner wrote: > > On Wednesday 05 September 2001 17:24, John Levon wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 10:08:24PM +1000, Kathryn Andersen wrote: > > > > One thing that LyX definitely does

Why LyX - Was Re: Unfortunately i think i am giving up ...

2001-09-04 Thread Keeper of the Key to Time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 04 September 2001 20:30, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: > This opens up a question: if you leave alone the fact that lyx is free.. > and that the underlying latex is supposely bug free. why features does lyx > offer that word doesnt? (the cont

Why Lyx always adds additional columns in arrays when opening?---A bug?

2001-06-04 Thread Qingchang Zhong
Hello, I have a problem with arrays in Lyx. Frequently, I need insert vertical and horizontal lines into arrays. For example, A   0    | 0 0    A   | 0 0    0    | A   The corresponding latex code is : \( \left[ \begin{array}{cc|c} A & 0  & 0\\  0 & A & 0\\ \hline 0  & 0  & A \end{array}

Re: Why Lyx always adds additional columns in arrays when opening?---A bug?

2001-06-04 Thread Herbert Voss
Qingchang Zhong wrote: > > I have a problem with arrays in Lyx. Frequently, I need insert > vertical and horizontal lines into arrays. For example, > A 0| 0 > 0A | 0 > > 00| A > > > The corresponding latex code is : > > \( \left[ \begin{array}{cc|c} > A &

Re: Why Lyx always adds additional columns in arrays when opening?---A bug?

2001-06-04 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 03:48:09PM +0100, Qingchang Zhong wrote: > I have a problem with arrays in Lyx. Frequently, I need insert vertical > and horizontal lines into arrays. For example, > A 0| 0 > 0A | 0 > > 00| A > > The corresponding latex code is : > > \( \

Re: Why Lyx always adds additional columns in arrays when opening?---> A not bad solution

2001-06-05 Thread Qingchang Zhong
Dear Herbert, Thank you for your solution. Along with your solution, I obtained a solution to change massive arrays including vertical lines. Some suggestions regarding to vertical/horizontal lines in arrays are: 1. horizontal lines can be input in arrays directly with \hline at the first cell of

Re: Why Lyx always adds additional columns in arrays when opening?---> A not bad solution

2001-06-05 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 11:15:30AM +0100, Qingchang Zhong wrote: > Dear Herbert, > Along with your solution, I obtained a solution to change massive arrays including >vertical lines. > > Some suggestions regarding to vertical/horizontal lines in arrays are: > > 1. horizontal lines can be input