Re: Large reports - consider moving from Libre/OOo/Word to LYX

2013-01-04 Thread Dr Eberhard Lisse
OO has a very decent LaTeX export, the output of which needs a little work, then import it into LyX. el On 2013-01-04 10:43 , Jan Helebrant wrote: > Hi, > every year I am completing final reports for our institute. It is > complex document with figures, citations, footnotes etc. often with more >

Re: Large reports - consider moving from Libre/OOo/Word to LYX

2013-01-04 Thread Les Denham
On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 09:43:24 +0100 Jan Helebrant wrote: > 2) to move to LYX, but I am unsure whether it is possible to at least > partially import current work or whether I would have to define all the > styles again from scratch. I still will have all input files for the > report as DOC or DOCX f

Large reports - consider moving from Libre/OOo/Word to LYX

2013-01-04 Thread Jan Helebrant
Hi, every year I am completing final reports for our institute. It is complex document with figures, citations, footnotes etc. often with more than 300 pages. So the LibreOffice used for editing is a little bit slow and I do not think the limiting factor is the PC and I also do not think switching

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-12 Thread Rainer M Krug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/03/12 15:20, Rob Oakes wrote: > On 3/9/2012 7:04 AM, Steve Litt wrote: >> Can one import HTML, with its styles, into MSWord or Libreoffice? If so, >> then it sounds to me >> like eLyXer has already accomplished this, without any added work from

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-09 Thread Rob Oakes
On 3/9/2012 7:04 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > Can one import HTML, with its styles, into MSWord or Libreoffice? If > so, then it sounds to me like eLyXer has already accomplished this, > without any added work from you, Alex. You've already done the hard > part, and Rob's done the other end of the hard

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:03:24 +0100 Alex Fernandez wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Rob Oakes > wrote: > > I'm sympathetic to this point. I understand that having a way to go > > from one to the other is important. I've deliberately avoided > > creating an export to Word option, t

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-09 Thread Rainer M Krug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/03/12 10:03, Alex Fernandez wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Rob Oakes wrote: >> I'm sympathetic to this point. I understand that having a way to go from one >> to the other is >> important. I've deliberately avoided creating a

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-09 Thread Alex Fernandez
Hi, On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Rob Oakes wrote: > I'm sympathetic to this point. I understand that having a way to go from one > to the other is important. I've deliberately avoided creating an export to > Word option, though, because it would essentially require that I recode large > por

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-09 Thread Rainer M Krug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/03/12 16:36, Rob Oakes wrote: > > On Mar 8, 2012, at 2:21 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > >> I would love to agree, but round-trip is what is needed most of the time. An >> import word2lyx >> is p

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-08 Thread Rob Oakes
On Mar 8, 2012, at 2:21 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > I would love to agree, but round-trip is what is needed most of the > time. An import word2lyx is perfect, but in most cases only half the > story. I would use it extensively if the round trip is

Re: word2lyx: Word to LyX Document Converter

2012-03-08 Thread Rob Oakes
On Mar 8, 2012, at 6:56 AM, BH wrote: > I'm very interested in this -- thanks for undertaking the project. > However, I can't even get it started. On Mac (10.6.8), calling > word2lyx from the Terminal, I get the following: > >> ./word2lyx.py ./Example-Word2LyX.docx test.lyx > Traceback (most re

Re: word2lyx: Word to LyX Document Converter

2012-03-08 Thread BH
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Rob Oakes wrote: > Dear Users and Developers, > > First off, thank you to everyone who sent me documents over the weekend. > I was able to make a lot of tweaks to word2lyx based on what you sent me. > > With that hurdle out of the way, I think it's ready to release

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-08 Thread Rainer M Krug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/03/12 09:57, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 08/03/2012 09:21, Rainer M Krug a écrit : >> I hope that you or somebody else will find time to look into this >> - my co-workers want to have all comments and track changes in >> the document they ge

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 08/03/2012 09:21, Rainer M Krug a écrit : I hope that you or somebody else will find time to look into this - my co-workers want to have all comments and track changes in the document they get and they complain that the doc I send them looks "different" after I imported it into LyX, made the c

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-08 Thread Rainer M Krug
ps with track changes and notes? > I'd really like to provide for that, yes. However, there is > something of a hang-up. Going from Word to LyX is pretty > straightforward. It will even be possible to maintain track > changes. (I still need to implement this, but it's on t

Re: word2lyx: Word to LyX Document Converter

2012-03-07 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Thanks a lot Rob! If I have understood correctly, this script cannot import equations. Do you it is possible to translate these objects to Latex too ? Regards, Murat -- Murat Yildizoglu yi...@u-bordeaux4.fr Le 8 mars 2012 à 01:03, Rob Oakes a écrit : > Dear Users and Developers, > > First o

word2lyx: Word to LyX Document Converter

2012-03-07 Thread Rob Oakes
Dear Users and Developers, First off, thank you to everyone who sent me documents over the weekend. I was able to make a lot of tweaks to word2lyx based on what you sent me. With that hurdle out of the way, I think it's ready to release it into the wild. If you'd like to download a copy of it, yo

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-07 Thread Rob Oakes
hing of a hang-up. Going from Word to LyX is pretty straightforward. It will even be possible to maintain track changes. (I still need to implement this, but it's on the radar for 0.2). Going back to Word from LyX, though, is a bit more complicated. Maintaining fidelity so that you can exchange

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-05 Thread Rainer M Krug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/12 01:14, Rob Oakes wrote: > Hi James, > > On 3/2/2012 4:18 PM, James Sutherland wrote: >> This sounds very nice! > Thanks. I appreciate that. >> Any ideas about whether you will be able to support cross >> references and translate that into

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-05 Thread Rainer M Krug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/12 01:14, Rob Oakes wrote: > Hi James, > > On 3/2/2012 4:18 PM, James Sutherland wrote: >> This sounds very nice! > Thanks. I appreciate that. >> Any ideas about whether you will be able to support cross >> references and translate that into

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-02 Thread Rob Oakes
Hi James, On 3/2/2012 4:18 PM, James Sutherland wrote: > This sounds very nice! Thanks. I appreciate that. > Any ideas about whether you will be able to support cross references > and translate that into LyX/LaTeX labels/references? > James Short answer, yes. It's one of the three or four things

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-02 Thread James Sutherland
update on what I've been doing > with the Word to LyX importer. > > Over the past couple of weeks, I've been working on it full steam and it's > now pretty functional. It supports: > >1. Translating Word paragraph and character styles to LyX paragraph >a

Re: word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-02 Thread Richard Heck
Nice going!! Richard On 03/02/2012 12:33 PM, Rob Oakes wrote: Dear Users and Developers, I wanted to give everyone a quick status update on what I've been doing with the Word to LyX importer. Over the past couple of weeks, I've been working on it full steam and it&#x

word2lyx (Word to LyX Translator): Status Update

2012-03-02 Thread Rob Oakes
Dear Users and Developers, I wanted to give everyone a quick status update on what I've been doing with the Word to LyX importer. Over the past couple of weeks, I've been working on it full steam and it's now pretty functional. It supports: 1. Translating Word paragraph and char

Re: copying from MS Word to LyX

2012-01-12 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
> My experience has been that word2tex is the only program that will work well > with "lots of math equations". But over the years, Word has handled math > in a bunch of different ways, so I'd recommend getting an evaluation version > first, and making sure it works for your particular word docum

Re: copying from MS Word to LyX

2012-01-10 Thread David A Case
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012, Wilfried wrote: > > Even at least one publisher of > scientific journals (I don't remember who) requests authors NOT to use > the new Word 2007 - 2010 equation editor but the old equation editor or > MathType. This is common in my field (chemistry): scientific journals ask f

Re: copying from MS Word to LyX

2012-01-10 Thread Wilfried
Murat Yildizoglu wrote: > You could check rtftolatex, and openoffice (oolatex) based solutions too. I > use word2tex from Chikrii Software (it is a commercial soft, with an > interesting education price), it allows me to save in latex from Word. You > can customize what you want to include in the

Re: copying from MS Word to LyX

2012-01-09 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
You should be able to install the extension writer2latex that normally gives this filter for the save dialog. -- Murat Yildizoglu yi...@u-bordeaux4.fr Le 9 janv. 2012 à 20:48, Csikos Bela a écrit : > Richard Heck írta: >>> On 01/09/2012 07:11 AM, Leslaw Bieniasz wrote:> >>> Hi,> >>> >>> I a

Re: copying from MS Word to LyX

2012-01-09 Thread Csikos Bela
Richard Heck írta: >>On 01/09/2012 07:11 AM, Leslaw Bieniasz wrote:> >> Hi,> >> >> I am new to LaTeX and LyX. I have a document written in MS Word, >> >>containing> >> lots of math equations plus text, and I want to copy it into LyX. Is there >> >>any way to do it? I see that this issue was disc

Re: copying from MS Word to LyX

2012-01-09 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
Thanks Richard for the correction, I have mixed these two-way packages... I was thinking about the writer2latex filter that allows us to save in Latex format (I use it with NeoOffice, under OSX). 2012/1/9 Richard Heck > On 01/09/2012 08:06 AM, Murat Yildizoglu wrote: > >> You could check rtftola

Re: copying from MS Word to LyX

2012-01-09 Thread Richard Heck
On 01/09/2012 08:06 AM, Murat Yildizoglu wrote: You could check rtftolatex, and openoffice (oolatex) based solutions too. oolatex goes the other way. But Libre Office (the successor to Open Office) can export a file as LaTeX. Richard

Re: copying from MS Word to LyX

2012-01-09 Thread Richard Heck
On 01/09/2012 07:11 AM, Leslaw Bieniasz wrote: Hi, I am new to LaTeX and LyX. I have a document written in MS Word, containing lots of math equations plus text, and I want to copy it into LyX. Is there any way to do it? I see that this issue was discussed in the past in this forum, and the sug

Re: copying from MS Word to LyX

2012-01-09 Thread David A Case
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012, Leslaw Bieniasz wrote: > > I am new to LaTeX and LyX. I have a document written in MS Word, containing > lots of math equations plus text, and I want to copy it into LyX. My experience has been that word2tex is the only program that will work well with "lots of math equation

Re: copying from MS Word to LyX

2012-01-09 Thread Murat Yildizoglu
You could check rtftolatex, and openoffice (oolatex) based solutions too. I use word2tex from Chikrii Software (it is a commercial soft, with an interesting education price), it allows me to save in latex from Word. You can customize what you want to include in the translation (I keep only the esse

copying from MS Word to LyX

2012-01-09 Thread Leslaw Bieniasz
Hi, I am new to LaTeX and LyX. I have a document written in MS Word, containing lots of math equations plus text, and I want to copy it into LyX. Is there any way to do it? I see that this issue was discussed in the past in this forum, and the suggestion was to write the doc file in the html fo

Re: MS Word to LyX

2009-01-29 Thread David A. Case
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009, Anders Host-Madsen wrote: > So, it seems the only solution is word2tex -- it appears to > do the conversion better than GrindEQ. But it is hard > to judge from the trial version, and the real version is > quite expensive (and risky, since it seems support is > non-existent).

Re: MS Word to LyX

2009-01-28 Thread rgheck
Anders Host-Madsen wrote: Richard Heck writes: There's also the free wvLatex program that you can try. I don't know if it runs on Windows. See here: http://wvware.sourceforge.net/ But if it doesn't, that's a good reason to dual boot Linux. I looked vwLatex. They refer to AbiWord,

Re: MS Word to LyX

2009-01-28 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
Richard Heck writes: > There's also the free wvLatex program that you can try. I don't know if > it runs on Windows. See here: > http://wvware.sourceforge.net/ > But if it doesn't, that's a good reason to dual boot Linux. I looked vwLatex. They refer to AbiWord, But I couldn't make AbiWord

Re: MS Word to LyX

2009-01-26 Thread cmiramon
Anders Host-Madsen wrote: > I tried to install open office (neo office). It does convert to LaTeX. > But the issue is that it seems the philosophy in the OO converter is to > make the typeset > LaTeX document look like the OO document, rather than conveying the > meaning/contents > of the document

Re: MS Word to LyX

2009-01-26 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
Richard Heck writes: > > > OpenOffice will export LaTeX. You should be able to load your Word docs > there, and then export. Might be no worse. You WILL have to do hand > editing, one way or the other. There's just no way around it. I tried to install open office (neo office). It does conve

Re: MS Word to LyX

2009-01-26 Thread Richard Heck
Anders Host-Madsen wrote: LyX is really a great way to write math. Therefore I would like to convert my old MS Word documents -- with a lot of equation in Equation Editor -- to LyX (these are documents I continually revise). Any advise about this? I found two commercial packages for conversion

MS Word to LyX

2009-01-26 Thread Anders Host-Madsen
LyX is really a great way to write math. Therefore I would like to convert my old MS Word documents -- with a lot of equation in Equation Editor -- to LyX (these are documents I continually revise). Any advise about this? I found two commercial packages for conversion to LaTeX: Grind EQ and Wo

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-31 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Michael Wojcik wrote: I don't expect the switch to XML to cause me any problems, and to be honest I'm a bit puzzled by all the worrying. /me too :-) Abdel.

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-31 Thread Michael Wojcik
Steve Litt wrote: Trouble is, replacing \begin..\end with <>... is a hack. LyX developers have defined LyX native format as \begin always is the first character on a line. There's no such requirement in XML, and if we require it, that's a hack. If we don't require it, LyX-XML parsing becomes

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-31 Thread Michael Wojcik
Manveru wrote: Have you ever merge XML? I tried - it is horrible work. It depends entirely on how the XML document is formatted. There's nothing that prevents XML with sensible line breaks, for example. I keep lots of XHTML documents in CVS. They're well-formatted, so merging works just fin

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-28 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
John McCabe-Dansted wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Manveru<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To the discussion about data format preference: I am reading all your comments about XML, YAML and other suggested data formats. And this discussion reminds me something about XML what almost nobody i

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-28 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
G. Milde wrote: On 28.07.08, Steve Litt wrote: On Monday 28 July 2008 01:10, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Manveru<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To the discussion about data format preference: ... Have you ever merged XML? I tried - it is horrible work. I don't see

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-28 Thread G. Milde
On 28.07.08, Steve Litt wrote: > On Monday 28 July 2008 01:10, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Manveru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > To the discussion about data format preference: > > > > > > ... Have you ever merged XML? I tried - it is horrible work. > > > > I

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-28 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 28 July 2008 01:10, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Manveru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To the discussion about data format preference: > > > > I am reading all your comments about XML, YAML and other suggested data > > formats. And this discussion reminds

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-27 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Manveru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To the discussion about data format preference: > > I am reading all your comments about XML, YAML and other suggested data > formats. And this discussion reminds me something about XML what almost > nobody is remeber about. How

My MS Word to LyX conversion is more or less finished

2008-07-27 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, A couple days ago it took the entire day to change all the tables from markers to real tables. It was a tough job. Today I put in the 10 images into the book. What made it hard was that the old images were object embbedded Micrografx Windows Draw images. MGX Windows Draw was a wonderfu

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-27 Thread Manveru
To the discussion about data format preference: I am reading all your comments about XML, YAML and other suggested data formats. And this discussion reminds me something about XML what almost nobody is remeber about. How many LyX user are working in large team projects? How often they have to merg

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-27 Thread Pavel Sanda
> On Thursday 24 July 2008 13:07:19 Pavel Sanda wrote: > > frankly - these are nice dreams, but there is not manpower to do it. > > my feeling is that the xml-branch commit activity pefectly shows what will > > happen after the worst bugs will be repaired in xml merged trunk. > > > > or you have so

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-27 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 24 July 2008 13:07:19 Pavel Sanda wrote: > frankly - these are nice dreams, but there is not manpower to do it. > my feeling is that the xml-branch commit activity pefectly shows what will > happen after the worst bugs will be repaired in xml merged trunk. > > or you have some particula

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion

2008-07-24 Thread Manveru
I understand DTD simplicity... but it is no longer fresh these days. Schema allows better understanding and can be processed by XSLT. 2008/7/23 John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wednesday 23 July 2008 08:04:59 am Steve Litt wrote: > > On Tuesday 22 July 2008 11:32, rgheck wrote: > > > Steve Litt wro

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-24 Thread Pavel Sanda
> what I claim is that we need better > script tools to handle lyx documents. Those tools should be stable across lyx > versions and should not depend of any particular file format. frankly - these are nice dreams, but there is not manpower to do it. my feeling is that the xml-branch commit acti

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-24 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008, Steve Litt wrote: As a sed/awk/perl/ruby parser, I appreciate that very much. The more I think about it, the more I think I should make the XML->YAML and YAML->XML converters. That way, if future generations of LyX project programmers forget why it's important to space th

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-24 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 19:24:16 Pavel Sanda wrote: > this depends on what you master. i'm used on the bunch of small unix > utilities so i gave that sed example. if you know python you will do in > python. my point was not propose the best tools but to groan and moan about > xml :) FWIW this ch

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Richard heck
Steve Litt wrote: At first I'll do them in Ruby because Ruby has all that stuff built in and easy to do. Later, depending on performance and the percent of people who have Ruby installed, I can convert them to C. There's a C implementation of the same YAML parser/emitter that Ruby uses -- Syck.

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Richard heck
José Matos wrote: That is also the reason why lyx2lyx is nowadays mostly a python library (LyX.py) and the script lyx2lyx is just a wrapper around the library. And let me add that anyone who wants to process LyX files on a regular basis using external scripts would be well served to learn t

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Richard heck
Steve Litt wrote: Perhaps our best hope of continuing tweakability of native LyX is to create 1.5.x to XML and XML to 1.5.x converters. Then all the parsing/tweaking can continue to be done in the 1.5.x format. As always, LyX will have such converters, so old formats can be imported/export

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Richard heck
Steve Litt wrote: On Wednesday 23 July 2008 07:00, José Matos wrote: XML will not change the current status. grep '

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:33:16AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wednesday 23 July 2008 07:00, José Matos wrote: > > > XML will not change the current status. > > > > grep '

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Pavel Sanda
> The next question is why do we need to manipulate lyx files with awk and > friends? Is not there something that can should be done by lyx? search and replace is one of the weak lyx parts and even if we get Tommaso one day to put his stuff in there are so many place where its of no help. just lo

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Pavel Sanda
> Perhaps our best hope of continuing tweakability of native LyX is to create > 1.5.x to XML and XML to 1.5.x converters. Then all the parsing/tweaking can > continue to be done in the 1.5.x format. as have written others 1.6 is still ok. for lyx files assembly you can still make what you want i

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 11:05, José Matos wrote: > On Wednesday 23 July 2008 15:33:16 Steve Litt wrote: > > The trouble is, XML tags can be anywhere -- spacing and linefeeds are > > immaterial. That means you can no longer parse based on position, such > > as: > > > > /^begin_layout/ > > > > beca

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 11:21, José Matos wrote: > > There may be things wrong with awking, seding and perling data into > > submission, but the age of these tools is not one of them. > > If you add there the coreutils, like tail, cut, paste, merge and so on we > can do things that spreadsheet p

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 14:49:12 Manveru wrote: > Guys, > > Have you even looked at TinyXML? Thanks for the link. :-) -- José Abílio

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 15:58:56 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi Pavel, > > Perhaps our best hope of continuing tweakability of native LyX is to create > 1.5.x to XML and XML to 1.5.x converters. Then all the parsing/tweaking can > continue to be done in the 1.5.x format. I will advise against such pract

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 15:20:59 Steve Litt wrote: > When the discussion reverts to "your thingamabob is from another > decade/century so it must not be good by today's standards", you know that > thingamabob is pretty darn good, or else there would have been a more > powerful argument against it

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 15:33:16 Steve Litt wrote: > The trouble is, XML tags can be anywhere -- spacing and linefeeds are > immaterial. That means you can no longer parse based on position, such as: > > /^begin_layout/ > > because technically the whole XML file could be in a single line. Or a >

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Steve Litt wrote: Perhaps our best hope of continuing tweakability of native LyX is to create 1.5.x to XML and XML to 1.5.x converters. Then all the parsing/tweaking can continue to be done in the 1.5.x format. I'm presuming that the LyX developers will create the 1.5.x to XML converter so users

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 19:24, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > Pavel Sanda wrote: > > Moreover, if you're editing by hand, you can use > > something that recognizes XML. > > of course it will work, but it will take x-times more time. > quite difference to write sed one-liner or start doing some > xslt templ

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 07:00, José Matos wrote: > XML will not change the current status. > > grep '

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 18:21, José Matos wrote: > Clearly you did not had to deal with the lyx file format like I did. :-) > If your idea of a parser is a set of regexp's that is so 80's. ;-) [clip] > It is funny to see all this nostalgia around something that is/was a > nightmare. If the syntax

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Manveru
Guys, Have you even looked at TinyXML? I have a project once where we use XML as a message passing protocol and we were using XSLT as C++ code generator for classes handling XML and converting them to data structures handling all data we need. This freed us from portability problems (Litte Endian

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 12:19:16 Pavel Sanda wrote: > i've done incorrect file, it's my fault if lyx crashes. i take my > responsibility, no problem. > trial method is the fastest if you want something quickly. If LyX crashes that is a bug. LyX should not ever crash, it can refused to load a fi

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread Pavel Sanda
> On Wednesday 23 July 2008 00:19:09 Pavel Sanda wrote: > > while you are right that xml could be better technology for internal > > lyx parsing (and i can understand your viewpoint as lyx2lyx fan:) > > this was not my mail about. > > > > > It is funny to see all this nostalgia around something tha

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-23 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 00:19:09 Pavel Sanda wrote: > by 'outside' i mean tweakings which i regularly do and watching users list > power users do that too _and_ are happy about the current simplicity of > format. > > tweaks like assembling of the whole file for various datasets, global > changes

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-22 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 19:24, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > Pavel Sanda wrote: > > Moreover, if you're editing by hand, you can use > > something that recognizes XML. > > of course it will work, but it will take x-times more time. > quite difference to write sed one-liner or start doing some > xslt templ

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-22 Thread Pavel Sanda
> Pavel Sanda wrote: > Moreover, if you're editing by hand, you can use > something that recognizes XML. of course it will work, but it will take x-times more time. quite difference to write sed one-liner or start doing some xslt templating. pavel

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-22 Thread Pavel Sanda
> On Tuesday 22 July 2008 22:54:14 Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > > now you are joking right? :) i just see all the bugs just because '>' is > > redirection. and imho manually generate \begin_layout Standard is more > > simpler > > then typing . > > You are welcome to reimplement lyx in shell, good luck

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion

2008-07-22 Thread John
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 08:04:59 am Steve Litt wrote: > On Tuesday 22 July 2008 11:32, rgheck wrote: > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > I don't know how it will be after LyX goes XML, but right now at 1.5.3, > > > converting my LyX code to something else by parsing the LyX native code > > > would be tri

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-22 Thread rgheck
José Matos wrote: now imagine those regexps where you need to escape all those \" in conclusion xml will be pain for people trying to use .lyx files directly with scripts etc. Clearly you did not had to deal with the lyx file format like I did. :-) If your idea of a parser is a set of re

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-22 Thread rgheck
Pavel Sanda wrote: Steve Litt wrote: this. Just as easy to parse, I hope. Maybe even easier. now you are joking right? :) i just see all the bugs just because '>' is redirection. Only in the shell, right? now imagine those regexps where you need to escape all those \" Th

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-22 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 22:54:14 Pavel Sanda wrote: > > now you are joking right? :) i just see all the bugs just because '>' is > redirection. and imho manually generate \begin_layout Standard is more > simpler > then typing . You are welcome to reimplement lyx in shell, good luck. :-) > now ima

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion

2008-07-22 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 21:04:59 Steve Litt wrote: > One more thing -- if you're going XML and don't want to reinvent the wheel, > you'll be using someone else's XML parser. Please, please, PLEASE, don't > make it some parser with tons of dependency so that the guy with a 2 year > old distro can't

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

2008-07-22 Thread Pavel Sanda
> Steve Litt wrote: > > this. > > > > > > > Just as easy to parse, I hope. Maybe even easier. now you are joking right? :) i just see all the bugs just because '>' is redirection. and imho manually generate \begin_layout Standard is more simpler then typing . now imagine those regexps wher

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion

2008-07-22 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 11:32, rgheck wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > I don't know how it will be after LyX goes XML, but right now at 1.5.3, > > converting my LyX code to something else by parsing the LyX native code > > would be trivial. > > My understanding is that, whatever happens with the LyX

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion

2008-07-22 Thread rgheck
Steve Litt wrote: I don't know how it will be after LyX goes XML, but right now at 1.5.3, converting my LyX code to something else by parsing the LyX native code would be trivial. My understanding is that, whatever happens with the LyX file format, we want it to remain possible to do the s

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion

2008-07-22 Thread Steve Litt
doing this, I found this page: Thanks Christian! One use for the new page is showing people how to convert word to LyX while preserving all styles. Perhaps an even greater use for this page is showing people the mess they'll get themselves into by using MS Word to write a book. I don

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion

2008-07-22 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Steve Litt wrote: This morning I got an acceptably tagged text file out of MS Word. From that moment on, things got much easier. Congratulations! I put a reference to your post on a wiki page, giving others that need to do this a starting point. (If you want to summarize

Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion

2008-07-21 Thread Steve Litt
This morning I got an acceptably tagged text file out of MS Word. From that moment on, things got much easier. I made a perl script to remove end tags, and instead put start tags on all lines between a start and end. It also made sure there were no interlinking tag sets. It also put all the sta

Scientific Word to LyX Conversion - Wiki Entry

2007-12-12 Thread frank j . iannarilli
FYI: http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/ImportingFromSWP

Scientific Word to LyX Conversion

2007-12-10 Thread Frank J. Iannarilli
Hi, This is also addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in order to request posting this tidbit onto a password-protected Wiki page. I suggest: since Scientific Word/Workplace users are Windows-only. Thanks! - Importing Scientific Word/Scientific Work

Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Steve Litt wrote: > I don't spoze there's an rtf to LaTeX converter that doesn't require Word > or .Net? ftp://ftp.dante.de/pub/tex/support/rtf2latex/ Or export to HTML and then run "tidy" for it. And then HTML to LaTeX with: http://html2latex.sourceforge.net/ Then import

Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread William Adams
On Sep 4, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Steve Litt wrote: I have another idea. I could write a series of Word macros to find styles and write their names as tags within the text. Then export as text, write a Ruby parser, and convert to LyX. Only thing is, I don't know if I can write the word macros to

Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread Georg Baum
Steve Litt wrote: > Is there a way to transfer an MS Word document to LyX, preserving the > paragraph and character styles in the document? I don't care how messed up > it looks after transfer -- I can tweak the layout file to suit my needs, > but I'd prefer not to lose styles. > > Anyone know ho

Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread Richard Heck
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 13:34, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tuesday 04 September 2007 12:45, John Kane wrote: > > Word-to-LaTex will give you a LaTeX file that you > > might then able to import to LyX > > http://kebrt.webz.cz/programs/word-to-latex/index.html > > . I suspect the results

Re: MS Word to LyX?

2007-09-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 13:35, you wrote: > On Tuesday 04 September 2007, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > My 1999 classic, "Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful > > Technologist" was written in MS Word. It was a styles based document. Now > > I want to make a second edition. >

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