Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-23 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi James I'll try to repro your issue. When I read your message for the first time, your initial message, I mean, I misunderstood it a little. But now I'm on the same page. But I'm not seeing the issue you mentioned. Which version of Safari were you using at the time? Gordon On 23 Sep 201

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-23 Thread James AUSTIN
Gordon, I take your point about Crome, but I've also experienced the same issues in Safari. This was the reason that I opted to use Crome, where they happen less often. TC :) James On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:53, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hello James > > Let's just say that you're slightly muddying

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-23 Thread Gordon Smith
Hello James Let's just say that you're slightly muddying the waters by the fact that you're using Chrome. Chrome isn't an Apple product and, as such, you may not achieve the expect results all of the time. I'm not aware of any official Apple support for Chrome; although to be absolutely fair

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-23 Thread James AUSTIN
Hi Will, Yes as far as I understand it, there is an issue with Adobe not providing Flash accessibility o OS X. But there is also an issue with VoiceOver not being able to access it. I don't know if the sec second issue is Apple's responsibility or Adobe's. However, Google and others like W3C

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-23 Thread william lomas
thought it was adobe issue half the sites i need to help me catch up with tv use it so i use windows a lot more nowadays On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:40 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Will, > > Actually, Crome does support Flash, as does Safari ad does Lightening. The > lack of accessibility with Flas

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-23 Thread James AUSTIN
Hi Will, Actually, Crome does support Flash, as does Safari ad does Lightening. The lack of accessibility with Flash is not browser dependent, but more related to VoiceOver. TC :) James On 23 Sep 2011, at 14:33, william lomas wrote: > what makes chrome better though aren't they all the same?

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-23 Thread James AUSTIN
Hi Gordon, Could you explain further please? I know you have said that it may not be a VoiceOver issue, but I am slightly confused by this, as despite there being no or little info in the web router, I can still navigate the page independent of that and click on links. Although sometimes, clic

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-23 Thread william lomas
what makes chrome better though aren't they all the same? safari? lightning? they all don't provide access to flash because of adobes lack of support so we who need access to flash are stuck On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi James > > I'm not sure if this is related to what

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-23 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi James I just wanted to comment on one thing. Just because it works when you restart VoiceOver, that doesn't necessarily imply it's a problem with VoiceOver itself. I know that may not sound logical, but technically there are reasons why this may be true. Gordon On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:25,

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-23 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi James I'm not sure if this is related to what you're talking about here. But I frequently see issues where VoiceOver doesn't see elements on a web page. Not just links, edit boxes, check boxes, combo boxes, (what Apple called a "Pulldown"), and other element. I'm not sure it's a VO issues

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-23 Thread william lomas
turn off voiceover and back on again all we need now is accessible tv catchup services like inlayer etc. still prefer windows for these at least they usable to find play stop pause rewind etc On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:15 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Hi Brian, > > Your issue sounds exactly the same a

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-23 Thread James AUSTIN
Hi Brian, Your issue sounds exactly the same as mine. Sometimes though, even a fully loaded page results in a links router with zero or just a few links. Best James SKYPE: saulky1984 On 23 Sep 2011, at 13:56, Bryan Jones wrote: > Hello James, > > I'm not sure if this is the same thing, but

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-23 Thread Bryan Jones
Hello James, I'm not sure if this is the same thing, but I experience a version of this issue every time I load a new page. What generally happens is that the first time I open the rotor, it reports zero or only a few links. I'll then press escape to close the rotor, wait a few seconds, and ope

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-22 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hmm When you go to the link chooser in the net flix sight? you will get this. I've seen a friend's computer do this. you will get links 0 itums but when you vo left and right through the sight you will find all the links. Iv'e seen this on twitter as well people discussing this with the new safa

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-22 Thread Dan Eickmeier
I've not come across this either. Does it make a difference if you're using Chrome, or Safari? I'm not using Chrome, as it's just not quite there yet in my opinion. On Sep 22, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > i've encountered this. I go to my fantastico installer and I see page has

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-22 Thread Sarah Alawami
i've encountered this. I go to my fantastico installer and I see page has 0 links yet I can vo right and left to them. This si a vo issue and needs to be remideed. It has been a problem since os10.7. Take care all. On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi James, > I've never encou

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-22 Thread James AUSTIN
Hi Zack, Interesting. I mean any page really. I'm not sure it's page specific. TC :) james On 22 Sep 2011, at 23:24, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi James, > I've never encountered this before, though I primarily use Safari. I'm not > sure what you'd consider "lots of links," but I've been on pages

Re: VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-22 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi James, I've never encountered this before, though I primarily use Safari. I'm not sure what you'd consider "lots of links," but I've been on pages with hundreds of them with no problems to speak of. Best, Zack. On Sep 22, 2011, at 3:13 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: > Evening folks > > Before I wri

VoiceOver not "seing" links

2011-09-22 Thread James AUSTIN
Evening folks Before I write to Apple about this, has anyone experienced a situation where when a page loads with lots of links, VoiceOver only seems to show the first two or even no links at all in the "links" window? I have tested this with Crome, which is now my primary browser, and I have