Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2021-05-11 Thread Mala Dies
Hello, I saw the link you posted on Universal Controller from Bart Drings. ... Thank you for this info. I am going another route as I do not know anything about GRBL as of today. Seth P.S. I tried GRBL a while back w/ the BBB but came up empty. Anyway, I will keep up w/ my promotion of

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2021-03-29 Thread Doug LaRue
Maybe consider something like Bart Drings - Universal Controller - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMwXUbWLic0 For anyone considering using SPI to a light weight step generator on standard 3D printer hardware, take a look at Remora project - docs

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-11-27 Thread Mala Dies
Hello, Are people still staying interested in an add-on Cape for the BBB/BBAI with many input/output channels for Servos/Steppers? I have not put anything together myself. I like the idea of Open Source being relevant now and in the future for people like me who tend to not know everything but

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-06-26 Thread blaz...@gmail.com
> > EtherCAT is used extensively in industry, a signification number of the > CNC controllers now only support EtherCAT servos and IO. > > The cost of using EtherCAT for CNCs has dropped significantly in the > last 5 years with a number of smaller suppliers of servo hardware > producing

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-06-26 Thread justin White
> > > BeagleBone AI uses AM5729, which in contrast to the one used in BBB should > have a Ethercat slave support. You can then use the PRU for exchange of > Ethercat messages and create distributed, multi-node system (multi > Machinekit instances). > I didn't realize that, looking into it it

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-06-26 Thread Mike O'Connor
Hi All On 25/6/20 9:23 am, justin White wrote: > Linuxcnc has a hal driver for ethercat master as it doesn't require > any special hardware. Ethercat slaves AFAIK require an ASIC and it's > pretty expensive. I hear alot of talk of ethercat but rarely see it > actually used in industry. I don't

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-06-26 Thread cern via Machinekit
Jun 25, 2020, 01:53 by blazin...@gmail.com: > Linuxcnc has a hal driver for ethercat master as it doesn't require any > special hardware. > There was support for quite some time now, that's not the problem. > > Ethercat slaves AFAIK require an ASIC and it's pretty expensive. > Ethercat slave

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-06-24 Thread justin White
Linuxcnc has a hal driver for ethercat master as it doesn't require any special hardware. Ethercat slaves AFAIK require an ASIC and it's pretty expensive. I hear alot of talk of ethercat but rarely see it actually used in industry. I don't know the status of the hal ethercat driver in MK but

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-06-24 Thread cern via Machinekit
Hi, Jun 23, 2020, 20:45 by jkrid...@beagleboard.org: > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:14 PM justin White <> blazin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 6:32:52 PM UTC-4, Chris Albertson wrote: >>> Isn’t that something the Beagle is strong at with the eQEP and PRUs? >>>

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-06-23 Thread Jason Kridner
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:14 PM justin White wrote: > On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 6:32:52 PM UTC-4, Chris Albertson wrote: > > Isn’t that something the Beagle is strong at with the eQEP and PRUs? >>> >> >> >> Strong only until you hit up against the limited number of I/O pins. A >> PRU based

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-06-10 Thread Chris Albertson
I have a real engineering question. In real life, is the redundant path actually used? If I owned a system that had a redundant path, I would place an alarm on the backup path and treat its use as a system failure. Maybe we finish the current operation while in alarm state but this is not the

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-06-10 Thread Juha Heikkilä
Hello, Sorry if I came out rude, that was not my intention. As for BBB and EtherCat, if you use the ”standard” one with a LAN port you dont need a cape at all, assuming that you would be able to sacrifice the ring topology. Running it headless and using a usb wlan, you would be able to keep the

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-06-09 Thread Stephen Bell
The BBB would be the master for my use case, with devices such as servomotor drivers as slaves in a dual-redundant topology. I use the BBB Wireless, and thus don't have the onboard RJ-45. The other industrial connections would also be necessary, particularly in a push-connector form factor,

RE: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-06-09 Thread cern via Machinekit
Hi, Jun 9, 2020, 22:25 by juha.hei...@gmail.com: > Hmm out of curiosity why would you require 2 separate EtherCat ports or is it > just for a ring topology? > > If you can settle for just one, you could run the igh EtherCat master stack > on the BBB and use available LAN port. So if one is

RE: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-06-09 Thread Juha Heikkilä
Hmm out of curiosity why would you require 2 separate EtherCat ports or is it just for a ring topology? If you can settle for just one, you could run the igh EtherCat master stack on the BBB and use available LAN port. So if one is enough, no need to mixup the cape with the EtherCat stuff.

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-06-06 Thread Malte Schmidt
I think the issue is always that the requirements with these machines are very different and that you never quite get what is needed. When I build the cape I use on my lathe I sort of used a modular design. I based this on a prototype cape and used those small optocoupler and level shift

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-05-06 Thread 'David benson' via Machinekit
Hi John I won't be using the BBB to drive either my mill or lathe as I'm very happy with what I've got, and have made good quality parts with them for many years. What I bought it (the BBB) for was for some other robotic projects. I've flashed it with Machinekit so that I can test the

RE: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-05-05 Thread John Dammeyer
From: 'David benson' via Machinekit [mailto:machinekit@googlegroups.com] Sent: May-05-20 1:08 AM To: Machinekit Subject: Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 11:12:49 PM UTC+11, Jason Kridner wrote:

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-05-05 Thread 'David benson' via Machinekit
On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 11:12:49 PM UTC+11, Jason Kridner wrote: > > I think we have to reliably enable hobby-class machines first. Now, some > people take hobby pretty far and I'm not trying to cap this off too small, > I just don't want to boil the oceans. I'd say if we can do a bit

RE: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-18 Thread John Dammeyer
From: machinekit@googlegroups.com [mailto:machinekit@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of justin White Sent: March-18-20 5:24 PM To: John Dammeyer Cc: Machinekit; beaglebo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI Wow

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-18 Thread justin White
Wow that has absolutely nothing to do with seeed's cape. On Wed, Mar 18, 2020, 7:37 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > Would someone perhaps be able to describe simply (like MachineKit for > Dummy's) how exactly the step pulse and direction shows up on the Beagle > pin relative to the motion command

RE: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-18 Thread John Dammeyer
Would someone perhaps be able to describe simply (like MachineKit for Dummy's) how exactly the step pulse and direction shows up on the Beagle pin relative to the motion command from a G00 X1.0 where current X position is 0.0. Clearly we accelerate and move and then decelerate to arrive at the

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-18 Thread Jason Kridner
I think we have to reliably enable hobby-class machines first. Now, some people take hobby pretty far and I'm not trying to cap this off too small, I just don't want to boil the oceans. I'd say if we can do a bit more than what CRAMPS can do today, we should. Personally, I'd want to at least be

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-17 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
This depends a lot on what sort of machine you're trying to drive. A "standard" CNC machine with step/dir typically needs a DB25 (aka: parallel port) with buffered signals you can connect to external stepper drivers. A 3D printer would more typically have low-powered "Pololu" style drivers

RE: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-13 Thread John Dammeyer
From: machinekit@googlegroups.com [mailto:machinekit@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bas de Bruijn Sent: March-13-20 6:47 AM To: Jason Kridner Cc: machinekit@googlegroups.com; beaglebo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-13 Thread Bas de Bruijn
I would use a cape who can drive DC and BLDC motors with encoder feedback. and has room for 24V I/O thru screw terminals. A motor such as these types (just an example, maybe different capes for different power ratings) which would make creating tools for industrial situations much, much

RE: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-12 Thread John Dammeyer
he array and when and how. John Dammeyer From: machinekit@googlegroups.com [mailto:machinekit@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Dammeyer Sent: March-12-20 4:59 PM To: 'Machinekit' Cc: beaglebo...@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape

RE: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-12 Thread John Dammeyer
[mailto:machinekit@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Albertson Sent: March-12-20 3:33 PM To: Jason Kridner Cc: Machinekit Subject: Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI Isn’t that something the Beagle is strong at with the eQEP and PRUs? Strong

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-12 Thread justin White
> > On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 6:32:52 PM UTC-4, Chris Albertson wrote: Isn’t that something the Beagle is strong at with the eQEP and PRUs? >> > > > Strong only until you hit up against the limited number of I/O pins. A > PRU based solution is cheap and simple but can't scale. > > In

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-12 Thread Chris Albertson
> > Isn’t that something the Beagle is strong at with the eQEP and PRUs? > Strong only until you hit up against the limited number of I/O pins. A PRU based solution is cheap and simple but can't scale. In general TI's idea to place a small microcontroller on the same chip as their ARM Cortex-A

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-12 Thread Jason Kridner
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 5:09 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:47 AM Jason Kridner wrote: > >> If you are putting a fast processor on the main board, what is the Beagle >> doing? >> > > The Beagle is running the servo loop, g-code interpeter, motion planning, > and the

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-12 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:47 AM Jason Kridner wrote: > If you are putting a fast processor on the main board, what is the Beagle > doing? > The Beagle is running the servo loop, g-code interpeter, motion planning, and the user interface. Step-gen and quadrature decoding are done on the

Re: [Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-12 Thread Jason Kridner
xis for power feed. Six monts later the Y axis for > power feed. Then a year later the Z axis for power feed. When they > swap in a 3 phase or AC servo motor onto the spindle they suddenly have > on/off speed control and now the potential to add simple CNC operations. Some > of those could even be l

[Machinekit] Seeed to design and build Machinekit focused Cape for BeagleBone Black/AI

2020-03-12 Thread Jason Kridner
Seeed is looking to not only build a Machinekit-focused Cape for BeagleBone Black and BeagleBone AI, but to: * Take in features and feedback from the community * Contribute the design to open source and certify it as such * Manufacture the design under the BeagleBoard.org name to support the