Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

On Mar 3, 2005, at 1:48 AM, Andy Holyer wrote: [..] Personally, because I learned Emacs in 1986, so the control keys are hard-coded in my brain :-) [..] Given that ted, you don't mind me calling you ted, had asked about coding in perl - and on an OSX box, then the obvious first choice is BBedit. Th

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

> "Ian" == Ian Ragsdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> "Keep" pushing free? Sorry, the collective "you". :) Ian> I'd guess that Ian> anybody who learned vi or emacs after 2000 wouldn't suggest it. I Ian> personally learned it in '94 and still don't feel that productive in Ian> it. What

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

I think there is a version of TSO that runs in unix, and on Windoze. This is for the very strong only. Joe. On Mar 3, 2005, at 8:45 PM, Charlie Root wrote: On Mar 02, 2005, at 17:15, John Delacour wrote: At 9:45 pm + 2/3/05, Phil Dobbin wrote: I'm thinking that if he's not comfortable with pic

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

On Mar 02, 2005, at 17:15, John Delacour wrote: At 9:45 pm + 2/3/05, Phil Dobbin wrote: I'm thinking that if he's not comfortable with pico maybe emacs is not the best idea... I'd love to hear a convincing explanation from someone why anyone would use such tools in preference to TextWrangler

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

Mostly just because no one else mentioned it, I rather like to use Mahon's "ee" or "aee". Almost no learning curve but much superior to pico, IMHO. If you must use a GUI version, and can tolerate X-windows, there's even an "xee". I believe FreeBSD includes it as part of a nominal install. Rather wi

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

The Ghost wrote: I would urge all of you that have spoken so far to try out jEdit (http://jedit.org). What kind of geek would I be if I ignored an editor thread? ;) I also like jEdit, here are a few of the reasons: * Open-source (free as in speech) * Lots of nice plugins * Very customizable * Mul

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

On Mar 3, 2005, at 7:04 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: "Ian" == Ian Ragsdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> If you want to stay with something free, I'd suggest TextWrangler from Ian> Bare Bones: Ian> http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/index.shtml Ian> It has good syntax coloring, an

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

Phil Dobbin wrote: On 02/03/2005 @ 22:25 GMT, Wiggins d'Anconia, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: John Delacour wrote: I'd love to hear a convincing explanation from someone why anyone would use such tools in preference to TextWrangler, BBEdit or Affrus. I can imagine they'd make it a chore to write

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

> "Ian" == Ian Ragsdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ian> If you want to stay with something free, I'd suggest TextWrangler from Ian> Bare Bones: Ian> http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/index.shtml Ian> It has good syntax coloring, and integrates well with the command-line Ian> pe

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

> "Peter" == Peter N Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Peter> This has been mentioned a few times, but of course TextWrangler/BBEdit Peter> both support Edit via FTP/SFTP, so presuming you are SSHing to your Peter> target machine, then you can easily edit remote files with Peter> TextWrangler/

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

On 2 Mar 2005, at 22:15, John Delacour wrote: At 9:45 pm + 2/3/05, Phil Dobbin wrote: I'm thinking that if he's not comfortable with pico maybe emacs is not the best idea... I'd love to hear a convincing explanation from someone why anyone would use such tools in preference to TextWrangler, B

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, John Delacour wrote: > Both TextWrangler and BBEdit, which for Perl purposes are virtually > identical (it's the html stuff that's missing in TW) are configurable > to the nth degree as regards keystrokes and can be customised, I am > sure, to emulate the behaviour of vim or w

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter N Lewis) wrote: > >Some friends have recommended vim and emacs to me. And one of the > >reasons is he can remotely edit a text file very easily. > > This has been mentioned a few times, but of course > TextWrangler/BBEdit both support Ed

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

Apologies for fanning the fires, but this hits kind of close to home ... On 2005.3.3, at 07:39 AM, David Cantrell wrote: [...] > and either a nightmare or an impossibility to deal with non-ascii, but maybe that's because I'm just an unreform

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

At 5:33 pm -0800 2/3/05, Aaron Priven wrote: The one real advantage to vi-type editors compared to other editors is that they enable you to edit without taking your hands off the home keys. Both TextWrangler and BBEdit, which for Perl purposes are virtually identical (it's the html stuff that's

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

On 2005.3.3, at 07:15 AM, John Delacour wrote: At 9:45 pm + 2/3/05, Phil Dobbin wrote: I'm thinking that if he's not comfortable with pico maybe emacs is not the best idea... I'd love to hear a convincing explanation from someone why anyone would use such tools in preference to TextWrangler,

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

Some friends have recommended vim and emacs to me. And one of the reasons is he can remotely edit a text file very easily. This has been mentioned a few times, but of course TextWrangler/BBEdit both support Edit via FTP/SFTP, so presuming you are SSHing to your target machine, then you can easil

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

I would urge all of you that have spoken so far to try out jEdit (http://jedit.org).

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

"vim" is "vi improved", a rewritten version of the original vi editor written many many years ago. http://www.vim.org/about.php The one real advantage to vi-type editors compared to other editors is that they enable you to edit without taking your hands off the home keys. They are, however, ext

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

[mangled quotation style revised :-) c.d.] On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Joseph Alotta wrote: > On Mar 2, 2005, at 5:20 PM, Ted Zeng wrote: > > > I have downloaded TextWrangler and used it for a short while. It > > satisfies all my need right now. In fact, I feel it is better than > > the shareware I us

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

At 12:02 am + 3/3/05, David Cantrell wrote: If it's for your convenience, that's fine. If you want to contribute your code to someone elses project, or you want others to work with you on your project, then insisting that everyone else use your choice of encoding, which may not render at al

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

It seems to me, that vi and vim are very similiar. I actually thought they were the same. What is the difference? Joe. On Mar 2, 2005, at 5:20 PM, Ted Zeng wrote: Hi, all, Thanks for all the replies. They are all very useful to me. I have downloaded TextWrangler and used it for a short while. I

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

John Delacour wrote: At 10:39 pm + 2/3/05, David Cantrell wrote: If you put non-ASCII in your code you're doing something wrong. Language-specific stuff - including English - belongs in a seperate resource file if you care about internationalisation. Uhm, the Perl I use uses UTF-8 by default.

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

At 15:20 -0800 3/2/05, Ted Zeng wrote: >Then I used MPW shell. If you liked the MPW shell you should purchase the full BBEdit package. Their worksheets are the closest thing you can get, on OS neXt, to MPW with executable shell commands from within the worksheet. Two differences are frustratin

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

t; > Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 11:50:01 -0600 > To: OSX Group Perl > Subject: Re: What Perl editor do you recommend? > > If you want to stay with something free, I'd suggest TextWrangler from > Bare Bones: > > http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/index.shtml

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

At 10:39 pm + 2/3/05, David Cantrell wrote: If you put non-ASCII in your code you're doing something wrong. Language-specific stuff - including English - belongs in a seperate resource file if you care about internationalisation. Uhm, the Perl I use uses UTF-8 by default. UTF-8 and Unicode h

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

On 02/03/2005 @ 23:10 GMT, David Cantrell, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: >Phil Dobbin wrote: [...] >> If so it's kind of lame seeing as we know have alternatives that work > > very well and more intuitively on their given platform (i.e. OS X) > >OS X is only one of many platforms I use. This is the

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

Hi, all, Thanks for all the replies. They are all very useful to me. I have downloaded TextWrangler and used it for a short while. It satisfies all my need right now. In fact, I feel it is better than the shareware I used to use for editing Perl scripts on Windows. TextWrangler is free from Bare

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

Phil Dobbin wrote: On 02/03/2005 @ 22:39 GMT, David Cantrell, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: John Delacour wrote: I'd love to hear a convincing explanation from someone why anyone would use such tools in preference to TextWrangler, BBEdit or Affrus. I can imagine they'd make it a chore to write code

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

On 02/03/2005 @ 22:39 GMT, David Cantrell, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: >John Delacour wrote: >> I'd love to hear a convincing explanation from someone why anyone >>would >> use such tools in preference to TextWrangler, BBEdit or Affrus. I can >> imagine they'd make it a chore to write code in us

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

John Delacour wrote: At 9:45 pm + 2/3/05, Phil Dobbin wrote: I'm thinking that if he's not comfortable with pico maybe emacs is not the best idea... I'd love to hear a convincing explanation from someone why anyone would use such tools in preference to TextWrangler, BBEdit or Affrus. I can i

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

On 02/03/2005 @ 22:25 GMT, Wiggins d'Anconia, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: >John Delacour wrote: >> I'd love to hear a convincing explanation from someone why anyone >>would >> use such tools in preference to TextWrangler, BBEdit or Affrus. I can >> imagine they'd make it a chore to write code in

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

Wiggins d'Anconia wrote: John Delacour wrote: At 9:45 pm + 2/3/05, Phil Dobbin wrote: I'm thinking that if he's not comfortable with pico maybe emacs is not the best idea... I'd love to hear a convincing explanation from someone why anyone would use such tools in preference to TextWrangler,

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

John Delacour wrote: At 9:45 pm + 2/3/05, Phil Dobbin wrote: I'm thinking that if he's not comfortable with pico maybe emacs is not the best idea... I'd love to hear a convincing explanation from someone why anyone would use such tools in preference to TextWrangler, BBEdit or Affrus. I can

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

At 9:45 pm + 2/3/05, Phil Dobbin wrote: I'm thinking that if he's not comfortable with pico maybe emacs is not the best idea... I'd love to hear a convincing explanation from someone why anyone would use such tools in preference to TextWrangler, BBEdit or Affrus. I can imagine they'd make it

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

On 02/03/2005 @ 21:28 GMT, Tommy Nordgren, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: >There is a double clickable version of emacs available. There is a link >to it at Apple's sight. I'm thinking that if he's not comfortable with pico maybe emacs is not the best idea... Cheers, Regards, Phil.

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

There is a double clickable version of emacs available. There is a link to it at Apple's sight. Mar 2, 2005 kl. 6:38 PM skrev Ted Zeng: Hi, Thanks for the help here. I am almost finishing my first tool on OS X. I am using TextEdit as the editor. I sometime use Pico, but I am still not comfortable

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

On Wed, March 2, 2005 12:43 pm, Wiggins d'Anconia said: > Ted Zeng wrote: >> Hi, >> Thanks for the help here. I am almost finishing my first tool on OS X. > Vim. Steep learning curve, learn once, use forever, anywhere. > > http://danconia.org > I'm a vim and BBEdit user. If you're interested in

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

Ted Zeng wrote: Hi, Thanks for the help here. I am almost finishing my first tool on OS X. I am using TextEdit as the editor. I sometime use Pico, but I am still not comfortable with Unix editor. I know there must be some good editors for Perl. Do you have any recommendation? ted zeng Adobe Systems

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

On 02/03/2005 @ 17:38 GMT, Ted Zeng, [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: >I am using TextEdit as the editor. I sometime use Pico, but I am still >not comfortable with Unix editor. I know there must be some good >editors for Perl. Do you have any recommendation? BBEdit and Affrus

Re: What Perl editor do you recommend?

If you want to stay with something free, I'd suggest TextWrangler from Bare Bones: http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/index.shtml It has good syntax coloring, and integrates well with the command-line perl - you can set a keyboard shortcut to run scripts & check their syntax, and yo

What Perl editor do you recommend?

Hi, Thanks for the help here. I am almost finishing my first tool on OS X. I am using TextEdit as the editor. I sometime use Pico, but I am still not comfortable with Unix editor. I know there must be some good editors for Perl. Do you have any recommendation? ted zeng Adobe Systems