it will all be customizable i think
Again i will wait a few months before upgrading what I havenow is
working fine
On 25 Aug 2009, at 01:06, Mike Arrigo wrote:
Just because the feature is there, doesn't mean you have to use it.
There will probably be an option for whether or not to
hi all i just hope then that voices from i vox are now available for
previously unsupported languages like japanese, chinese, etc
On 24 Aug 2009, at 23:39, James Nash wrote:
David I agree with you and Scott. Apple have done a fantastic job
with VO
and I have not said otherwise. The
Hello,
I've noticed that, when printing an address on an envelope from
Addressbook, not all lines of the address get printed. For isntance,
although a card contains for example the name of the department in a
company, the department line doesn't get printed. Similarly, if a card
contains
On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:39 AM, James Nash wrote:
use those than the voices I've heard on the IPhone. However, the
reason I
mention the IPhone voices is that if Voice Over continues as it has in
Leopard - only speaking in English - then non-native English
speakers who do
not feel
Will,
On Aug 25, 2009, at 8:36 AM, william lomas wrote:
hi all i just hope then that voices from i vox are now available for
previously unsupported languages like japanese, chinese, etc
Making a new voice is many months of work, making a voice for a new
language easily takes a year. So
are chinese voices do you know beeing worked on? i am learning chinese
so would like a voice to help me read articles etc
On 25 Aug 2009, at 08:32, David Niemeijer wrote:
Will,
On Aug 25, 2009, at 8:36 AM, william lomas wrote:
hi all i just hope then that voices from i vox are now
Hi and thanks for that tip. My only gripe against Amadeus and other
sound editors on the Mac side of things is that editing takes too many
key strokes. Yeah, sure you can hear what you have selected by
pressing spacebar for each and every arrow movement or s, a, d
and so on you do, but
Snow Leopard is supposed to be localised in Chinese and Japanese
unless I've read it wrong.
On 25 Aug 2009, at 08:32, David Niemeijer wrote:
Will,
On Aug 25, 2009, at 8:36 AM, william lomas wrote:
hi all i just hope then that voices from i vox are now available for
previously unsupported
Hi,
It appears that in list view and symbol view, Pathfinder doesn't
display text correctly while in collumn view, it appears to show
everything correctly.I don't know what to think about that really,
what if someone wants to use list view? There appears to be menus from
which you can
the OS itself is in chinese always has been but not sure about voice
over i don't htink that is
On 25 Aug 2009, at 09:47, Simon Cavendish wrote:
Snow Leopard is supposed to be localised in Chinese and Japanese
unless I've read it wrong.
On 25 Aug 2009, at 08:32, David Niemeijer wrote:
You dont' need to worry even if it was upgrading the existing
version. Apple has gotten the upgrade process down to an art unlike
Microsoft. I think once you do it, you'll find all the worries were
for naught. :)
On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Mike wrote:
Hi all:
I'm going to get Snow
Well lets clear up one item here. The erase and install option will
not be available in the menu as it is now. This was do to customers
choosing the wrong option and trashing all their data. Erase and
install literally means just that and whatever anyone does, backing up
your data is
There is just no reason for your fears. Apple would not radically
change VO or leave current users totally lost. Once everyone starts
getting their copies, I think you'll find your fears to be baseless
and in fact you'll be reaching for that credit card to place your
order. :)
On Aug
I don't even know why this topic is being brought up to be honest,
let's see what the New Snow Leopard offers us before passing judgement
or creating panic.
On 25/08/2009, at 7:36 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
There is just no reason for your fears. Apple would not radically
change VO or
Will,
On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:38 AM, william lomas wrote:
are chinese voices do you know beeing worked on? i am learning chinese
so would like a voice to help me read articles etc
Is there any language you are not learning :-)
I cannot provide information on Acapela Group's unannounced voices
Hey DG,
Can you bit a bit more specific about what you are doing when you try
to Cut information and does Copy work? For instance, what application
and portion thereof causes this behavior?
Happy Hacking,
cdh
On Aug 24, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Hello all,
I have noticed
I wonder if Apple's Auto Web Spots is different enough from the FS
Placemarkers feature as FS is currently suing GW Micro over a patent
infringement on this concept. There are a lot of problems with the FS
patent but judges aren't always of the nuances that make one idea
different from
According to sources at appleinsider, the erase feature is not
prominent in the install. Apparently it still can be done, however one
must go to disk utility first.
On 25-Aug-09, at 12:57 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
You can choose to completely erase your drive before installing.
Unlike
Huh, good luck cause FS hasn't a leg to stand on in the GW Micro case
and they couldn't say a word about Apple's implementation. FS must be
pretty desperate.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 8:10 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:
I wonder if Apple's Auto Web Spots is different enough from the FS
So will the Erase and Install not be an option?
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Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: New Os or not?
Well lets clear up one item here. The erase and install option will
it is but it is in disc utility
On 25 Aug 2009, at 15:17, James Nash wrote:
So will the Erase and Install not be an option?
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: New
Yeah. That would be an awesome feature. We might suggest this feature
to the developers. I can't find the right words to describe this
feature, so if I suggest it, they might be confused. :)
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
Hey there everyone, Hi hope all is well.
The Snow Leopard DVD shipping will be a fresh copy, allowing you to do
a clean install if you are wanting to do so.
Hope this helps.
I know, once I get the new OS in my hands, I will be doing a fresh
install, and wipe out hte current installation I
hi all I know bad news, bells etc. are commical voices but aren't
they a waste of space in the OS, really?
Thoughts?
Will
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FS, with a JAWS market share of nearly 90% world wide and over 70% in
the US is definitely not desperate in any way. Lee Hamilton, FS CEO,
told me in his office when I was still a VP there that patents, even
pretty shaky ones, can be used to drop boulders in the road maps of
any perceived
hi all i will wait I think to upgrade and see what other users say
regarding performance etc. if what we have now works and we are happy
with its usage then why upgrade at present
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Outside of Alex and Vickie, all the other voices take up so little
space that it is negligible.
If you're looking to save a significant amount of space, I recommend
eliminating some of the localizations that you won't be using. For
example, if you don't speak Japanese, don't install the
Hi all:
I'm not clear on the new snow leopard install method.
It sound fine if you want to stick the DVD in and upgrade over a
previous version of Leopard.
How ever, can the command C be used while the machine is powering up,
to access the bootable DVD and install a fresh Snow Leopard with VO
Hi,
This sounds like a great idea.
Another tip I thought might be worth sharing is that you can speed up
or slow down playback with Up and Down arrows. When trying to start or
end a selection at a very precise spot, being able to play very slowly
can help. And when trying to get a quick
Hello all
On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:29 AM, David Niemeijer wrote:
as Scott pointed out, space on the DVD alone
would already preclude all such voices to be high quality. All Infovox
iVox voices together already pretty much fill up a dual layer DVD so
there would be little space left for the OS
Hi folks, is the MacBook White 2.13Ghz 64 bit?
Thanks
James
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personally, I think they're fun and I use them for a variety of
reasons. everyone's prefernce, and although I would never have bad
luck read my writing or an article, apart from effect, they just make
it what it is. :)
On Aug 25, 2009, at 3:16 PM, william lomas wrote:
hi all I
FS are desperate, and they're only going to get more desperate.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Huh, good luck cause FS hasn't a leg to stand on in the GW Micro
case and they couldn't say a word about Apple's implementation. FS
must be pretty desperate.
On Aug 25, 2009,
iPhone Quick Tip #3
There may be occasions when you'd like to change the volume of VoiceOver's
speech on your iPhone, but not that of other sounds. You can accomplish this
very easily with only the volume rocker switch on the upper left hand side of
the phone…
To change VO's speech volume,
Getting half the disk space back is one reason of it's own. Will it run
faster, probably I would imagine. I wonder how they compress half of it out
without losing half the features? I suppose the old PowerPC code takes just
as much as the intel, so going universal must double the size.
-
Hello Anowk,
On Aug 24, 2009, at 8:25 PM, a radix wrote:
I am wondering, i am thinking this will work with readiris pro but I
am wondering if it does with vuescan too? My scanner has a
sheetfeeder so it
can scan 25-50 pages at once. I always use it this way i never scan
loose
pages,
I think just about everything since awhile ago supported 64 bit. I think
that even Pentium 4's have it, or the 3 gig ones might, but nobody was
making software and drivers back that far even if the processor will take
them.
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Hi,
I think they're fun as well. A couple of them would be great alien
characters in a sci fi radio drama.
Best,
Anna
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Hi,
I have a blog on Wordpress.com. The blogroll is formatted with a
heading for each category, and under the heading is a list of the
links in that category. With Internet Explorer and Firefox, I can read
these lists of links with no trouble, but with Safari, all I see is
the headings.
I think those voices were included for other reasons and happen to
work with VO. Of course Bells for example serves no purpose for users
really, but I suspect they are again there for other purposes. Of
course you could always suggest to Apple they remove those voices if
no one really
Folks, here is an article that may interest a number of you. Is it
possible Apple will offer even more options in their notebook lineup?
Well read the following article and speculate for yourself.
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Date: August 25, 2009 12:40:00 PM EDT
Subject: Apple to retain,
Hi Ana,
I use WordPress on most of my sites and have never run into this
issue. Can you provide a link to your site, or send it to me off list,
and I'll look at the page and see if I can figure out what the problem
is? :)
On Aug 25, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
Hi,
I
Yes it will be an option, but you have to go looking for it. It will
not be real obvious for the reasons the article I shared pointed out.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 10:17 AM, James Nash wrote:
So will the Erase and Install not be an option?
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From: Scott Howell
HI Josh,
The link is
nbpupdates.wordpress.com
Thanks for taking a look.
Best,
Anna
On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
Hi Ana,
I use WordPress on most of my sites and have never run into this
issue. Can you provide a link to your site, or send it to me off list,
and
There's no link Scott
- Original Message -
From: Scott Howell
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:57 PM
Subject: Fwd: Apple to retain, redesign plastic MacBook family
Folks, here is an article that may interest a number of you. Is it
You are so right. And let's be fair, Windows is not that bad. It has become
more security concious over the years.
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: say it's not so apple
Trust me,
James go to System Preferences, choose Displays, choose the display
tab, and navigate to the resolutions table. Make your selection
there. ANy reason you want to do this or are you wanting to increase
the size of the font? You can of course use the zoom features if you
have some
Petition to Adobe Systems Inc. for a COmmitment to Accessibility
One of the most frequently asked questions by VoiceOver users is some variation
on, When will we have access to Flash? The answer has been, as far as we have
been able to determine, that Adobe Systems Inc. has no plans to provide
Just visited. I see several headings, and I see several lists under
the headings just fine. For example, I see the headings for A
Pocketful of Sound Resources, Blog On!, and so on. Under each of these
headings, VoiceOver shows a list of sites for that category. I'm
running Mac OS X
It's not a link at least not on my E Mail
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Apple to retain, redesign plastic MacBook family
click read more
On 25 Aug 2009, at 19:19, James
ah you right it says link but won't click
On 25 Aug 2009, at 19:38, James Nash wrote:
It's not a link at least not on my E Mail
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From: william lomas
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Apple to retain,
I'd love the answer to this also. :)
On Aug 25, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
Hi,
I have a blog on Wordpress.com. The blogroll is formatted with a
heading for each category, and under the heading is a list of the
links in that category. With Internet Explorer and Firefox, I
By pressing vo space the read more link works here.
Randy
On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:42 PM, william lomas wrote:
ah you right it says link but won't click
On 25 Aug 2009, at 19:38, James Nash wrote:
It's not a link at least not on my E Mail
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From: william lomas
Josh, could this be a navigation thing? I'm running the same as you
yet cannot see my blog roll.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
Just visited. I see several headings, and I see several lists under
the headings just fine. For example, I see the headings for A
Hi Josh,
I'm using exactly the same versions of OS X and Safari that you are
and am looking at exactly the same part of the page that you are, but
I'm not seeing the lists. I am using DOM navigation. If I switch to
group navigation, I do see links under the headings, but mixed in
among
Here's some details about which machines work in 64 bit and such. In
general, by default, Snow leopard will go into 32 bit mode for all
machines except xServes.
http://www.osnews.com/story/22009
CB
Brent Harding wrote:
I think just about everything since awhile ago supported 64 bit. I think
I've been thinking more about this other language synthesizers issue.
I wonder how hard it would be for apple to include by default the
voices that it uses for the iPhone on the installation CD of its
operating system. That way, a blind person could manage bios and
system installation
Hi everyone,
I've taken the plunge into the sdk to attempt creating a first minute
app, then as i get more acquainted with the framework, look into
deeper features.
I was wondering if anyone in this group has also been looking into this?
I would be glad to exchange information with you
Actually both links worked for me, with the first having issues..not that
i am using your hardware though.
Here is the article for those experiencing difficulty.
From klewel...@server1.shellworld.net Tue Aug 25 15:20:40 2009
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:20:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: Karen Lewellen
Hmm. I bet getting rid of a lot of legacy and multiple-CPU binaries is
the bulk of the savings.
CB
Brent Harding wrote:
Getting half the disk space back is one reason of it's own. Will it run
faster, probably I would imagine. I wonder how they compress half of it out
without losing half
I sure would like to upgrade but since I depend on Acapela infovox
ivox, as well as LaTeX, I think I will have to wait till both of those
are fixed with SnowLeopard.
Regards
Justin Harford
On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Hmm. I bet getting rid of a lot of legacy and
Interesting. If I press VO right arrow it definitely won't go past
83%, but if I just press right arrow, it pushes it the rest of the way
to 100%.
Hope this helps
Justin
On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:
Hi,
I can't push the slider to never on the screensaver tab.
Hmmm, I don't know if I buy that one. I haven't read that anywhere
and I seriously doubt you'd notice an improvement of any significance
in doing this.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:39 PM, James Nash wrote:
Hi Scott,
Thanks. No I don't have any vision, but wanted to increase my
performance.
Yes there is, just click on the read more link at the bottom of the
message.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:19 PM, James Nash wrote:
There's no link Scott
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:57 PM
Subject: Fwd: Apple
James don't know what to tell you I just checked and it is a link even
in the message I replied too.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:38 PM, James Nash wrote:
It's not a link at least not on my E Mail
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday,
And as I keep saying, make your concerns known. It's one thing to
state your feelings here, but quite another in stating them to Apple.
If enough people really want this and write to Apple, then there is a
very good chance it will appear on the right radar screens. There is
a number of
Just curious cause I haven't been following this real close, but have
you all tried with groups vs. dom mode or other way around? Just a
thought.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
Josh, could this be a navigation thing? I'm running the same as you
yet cannot see my blog
Hi Anna,
I confirm that the links you are referring to are not visible when in
dom mode. It has been my experience that this sort of thing happens
in group mode so I find this quite strange.
As far as you hearing snippets of the blog when navigating through the
links in question, try
If you checked the sending information for tha message, you would see
that I CCed accessibility, along with the other messages I and others
have sent them in the past.
Regards
Justin
On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
And as I keep saying, make your concerns known. It's
I also wonder if the tiny display width won't make Safari's page layout
break since sites will be rendered as skinny very long pages. VO does
represent the visual layout so if the layout is disturbed so will the VO
navigation be.
CB
Scott Howell wrote:
Hmmm, I don't know if I buy that one.
Well no problem Scott. Someone very kindly posted the article. Thank you to
that person.
Take care
James
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Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:44 PM
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I agree wit James and Nash (not for myself but others out there that might
be a potential market) and they would not have to be high quality voices, i
mean it would already just be a help if you could do basic stuff with them
and if you wanted high quality you could get ivox or whatever other
I can't seem to figure this one out. In iTunes I can go to Applications
under library and then the right pane refreshes with the apps currently
loaded on the phone. I can navigate to the bottom of the window and it
shows 12 items but how do I select one of these apps to delete them? The
Hi there Will
It's as Anne said, it's quite disingenuous of them to act as though
they never knew we wanted those voices to be included. Of course they
knew. There must be a reason behind the decision not to include them
be it technical or political.
Did Anne give you a french braille
that would be superb if it could do that
On 25 Aug 2009, at 21:29, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
As i justpurcgased the infovox ivox french voices, and from the past
threads on this, i was wondering if the new ivox 2.0 will have
breathing patterns like alex does in english. I don't know how
Hey Chris,
It seems at this time the applications are not available to us via the
source table in this version of iTunes. There are at least two ways
of deleting apps. One is when you connect your phone to iTunes, go to
the applications tab on your phone. There you will find two
As i justpurcgased the infovox ivox french voices, and from the past
threads on this, i was wondering if the new ivox 2.0 will have
breathing patterns like alex does in english. I don't know how hard it
would be to standardize this but i find it much more comfortable to
read through long
Right. I figured out the latter way but that also pops an inaccessible
are you sure alert which stops the phone from syncing. The alert
includes a don't warn in the future checkbox which removes the issue
from the future but until then it's odd that the alert is not
accessible. I guess for the
You might be right CB Thanks James
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Using lowest availible graphics memory
I also wonder if the tiny display width won't make Safari's page
I've found that when I am testing apps, if I download from the App
Store directly to my phone, I can play with the app and if I don't
like it, I delete it from the phone. If the app is deleted from the
phone prior to syncing, it doesn't show up in your Mobile Applications
folder.
Brett
The thing that may upset a lot of people is fs's overbearing and
attempts to squish inovation that doesn't come to them first.
I really don't care if they make money but at the same time they
shouldn't be peeing in everyone elses cornflakes either.
On 25-Aug-09, at 1:54 PM, Rich Ring wrote:
I think James is talking about when onboard graphics cards use some
ram as graphics memory. Having said this, I was under the impression
that every mac has a dedicated card with its own bit of video ram?
On 25/08/2009, James Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com wrote:
You might be right CB
his part is dyme
grey out etcd
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone app delete
Hey Chris,
It seems at this time the applications are not available to us via
There are two closely related standard here. The first is DAISY/NISO
or as it is also know NISO z3986. This is the latest digital talking
book standard and support linked audio or audio only.
Then there is the ePub format which is what Sony is supporting. ePub
is text only but is very
I agree with Anna, here. It's really annoying to have to copy and paste files,
and then have to go back to the original and delete it. Cut and paste is much
more efficient, and I'd sacrifice the danger factor. It just means you have to
be a bit more careful.
Donna
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hello I have a 6 gig dmg
this is a bootable disk
need to split this in to 2 dvds have it ask me to hit enter when second disk is
inserted
what program will do this?
Hank
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Hey Chris,
I'm assuming my subsequent exchanges on the list answered this? I think John
explained it. If not, let me know. And thanks for the offer of help.
Cheers,
Donna
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The menu option isn't there, but the way I plan to do it is, boot from
the dvd, go to utilities and choose disk utility, erase the drive,
then install the new operating system. Of course, before I do this, I
will do a complete backup to my external hard drive, and I already
have backups
May I ask why you think it will come with 2 cards? At any rate, even
if it does, you'd want to use the dedicated card over the onboard one
anyway.
On 26/08/2009, a radix anou...@home.nl wrote:
Hello everyone, my macbook pro will be here tomorrow. It will come with two
graphics cards, one
I wonder if they have or will have a restore from time machine backup
option? If so, would it restore all stuff that you need from a leopard
backup as well as upgrading to snow-leopard?
On 25-Aug-09, at 9:13 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
The menu option isn't there, but the way I plan to do it
Unfortunately this is true, they are still making money, although I
would never buy anything from them, and advise others to boycott them
as well. For windows users, I reccomend system access, or if they need
something more advanced, window eyes. Window eyes has all the features
of JFW,
Hi
I have a quick question I have an iMac and a MBP ifI purchase the $29
upgrade will i be able to install that on both computers or will I
have to buy two copies of it?
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Hi,
As several of you know, I have been working over the past couple of
weeks to record a podcast demonstrating the third generation iPod
Shuffle. I am happy to say that it is finally finished! Brian Hartgen,
creator of the J-Tunes scripts for JAWS, has posted it to his TT
Consultancy
the $29 copy is a single user one, I'd buy the family pack and save 9
$ and have access for up to 5 machines rather than paying for just 2
copies.
On 25-Aug-09, at 9:08 AM, Angel wrote:
Hi
I have a quick question I have an iMac and a MBP ifI purchase the $29
upgrade will i be able to
with this particular podcast, I'm not able to download it now.
Getting download failed in iTunes here.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 10:16 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
Hi,
As several of you know, I have been working over the past couple of
weeks to record a podcast demonstrating the third
10.5 a few months back to try and lick my iTunes issue,
when the machine rebooted, just pressed command F-5 and I was off
and listening. LOL
Thanks:
Mike
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Hi all,
Brian had some trouble uploading the podcast for some reason. For the
time being, he's put it on his own site. the link is
www.hartgen.org/shuffle.mp3
Sorry about giving you a dead link.
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Hi,
I think Freedom Scientific's lawsuit against GW Micro is ridiculous.
However, I use JAWS most of the time when I use Windows because there
are a lot of things it offers that its competition doesn't. It's more
responsive than Window-Eyes when using a braille display in Word 2007,
or
Hi,
I used cut and paste to move files around in Windows for years with no
great trouble. I may have cut something by mistake once or twice, but
in that case Undo came to the rescue. On the whole, I like working
with the Mac very much, but I miss this feature from Windows.
Cut and paste
Hi Barry,
Thanks for this. Since in most cases, VO-Right Arrow and VO-Down Arrow
do the same thing, I forgot that wasn't the case with group mode on
web pages. If I press VO-Down, the lists of links read correctly. I
think it's odd that content can be missing from a page if you use DOM
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