download osx 10.10 help

2014-10-22 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
Hello when downloading osx 10.10 where is it putting the downloaded file to? I checked under aplications folder and am not seeing it. am I missing something? Hank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: download osx 10.10 help

2014-10-22 Thread David Griffith
I found it under Applications. You have to command tab to the application whilst the continue button is in focus. It was not visible until then. The actual installer is called Install OS X Yosemite. . On 22 Oct 2014, at 07:22, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com

Re: Braille screen input

2014-10-22 Thread BobH.
I find grade2 working pretty good, too good when I didn't realise it was on and it kept expanding initials I was typing at the time. Had to fiddle trying to find how to turn it off; but we all sorted that out in the end. RH, aka: RatherHave. - Original Message - From: Eugenia Firth

Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

2014-10-22 Thread BobH.
Deleting the uninteresting threads of grouped messages, cleans up quite efficiently. Pity we couldn't change this mode on the fly like Outlook, so we can then read the better bits remaining, more efficiently. - Original Message - From: Keith Watson tkwatso...@gmail.com To:

Re: ibooks

2014-10-22 Thread David Griffith
The normal VO A command appears to be working fine for me on an unprotected ePub document. I am still experimenting. I had changed to single page view to see if that could reduce busy messages when navigating by page but I am not sure if that makes difference David Griffith On 22 Oct 2014,

Re: How to perform secure empty trash on my Mac?, and how to change voice on my iPad/iPhone?

2014-10-22 Thread BobH.
iOs voices: settings/general/accessibility/voiceover, Speech. That is the list of voices with option to try, and get the enhanced versions downloaded. - Original Message - From: Eleanor Roberts eleanor.robert...@googlemail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October

RE: Jumping to the top of the message list in Mail/Yosemite

2014-10-22 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Edward, After countless hours of using Yosemite Mail, on two Macs, one being a ventage 2009 model and the other recently purchased, I can tell you that I have never lost Message Column item focus in Mail when in Standard View. Rarely do I use Classic view, anymore, so cannot comment

unlabelled buttons in yosemti mail

2014-10-22 Thread Dean Adams
Hi All, Here is what the buttons are that are unlabelled in yosemti mail you can lable them with V O Slash . Unlabelled Buttons in Yosemeti mail There are four unlabled buttons in yoesemit mail once you open an email and here is what they are from left to right Button 1 : Trash

Re: unlabelled buttons in yosemti mail

2014-10-22 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Ah, many thanks. Now, I found a fifth one. IF an incoming e-mail has one or more attachments, it would seem that this fifth button pops open a window allowing you to save them. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only

Re: unlabelled buttons in yosemti mail

2014-10-22 Thread Ray Foret Jr
In reply to my earlier message, yefs, indeed, that fifth button is indeed an attachments menu button. It will only show up if a message has more than one attachment. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full

Re: question re iTunes downloads

2014-10-22 Thread Donna Goodin
Tim, Wondering if this has changed in the new iTunes? I find the table to the right of the sort by menu, but don't know what you mean by the File submenu, there is no file submenu there thanks, Donna On Oct 21, 2014, at 10:38 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, When viewing the

Re: question re iTunes downloads

2014-10-22 Thread Colin Matthews
Hi! Ok open Command+j and you'll be on a table where you can choose if you want Albums or Artist or Songs! Choosing songs you arrow right and you should have 2 further popup options to sort by! The 2nd popup option should have about 18 options including those sub menus that you're looking for!

Re: question re iTunes downloads

2014-10-22 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi, Colin, Wow, do they bury that! thanks, I was one column too far to the left. Cheers, Donna On Oct 22, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Colin Matthews velocity.focu...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi! Ok open Command+j and you'll be on a table where you can choose if you want Albums or Artist or Songs!

Re: Braille screen input

2014-10-22 Thread Eugenia Firth
Ok, good. Just a suggestion, though. If you ever have initials doing that again, if you use the letter sign, never mind that it's incorrect to do it, that should let you type them in right. On computers, I use the letter sign all the time when I'm doing initials where they could be

Re: Jumping to the top of the message list in Mail/Yosemite

2014-10-22 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there I have found that if you ever lose your place in Mail when not in classic view, if you press command 1 it will take you to your inbox. I have found this gets you back, even if you want to go to another mailbox. If you are back to the inbox and you want to go to another box, you can

Re: my own feedback about Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite

2014-10-22 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Juan I wasn't going to write about this because I couldn't find an easy answer to this, and I think there is one. I have a blind friend who just bought a MacBook Pro under Mavericks, gotten about three weeks ago. We had the same thing happen with hers that you are describing when we

Re: How to play chess on mac?

2014-10-22 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
yes it will tell the move of the computer by alex then it will again speak by alex by my deafult rate of speech. Il giorno 21/ott/2014, alle ore 11:12 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com ha scritto: I'm confused now. Alex will say the move the computer makes, unless you selected a game type of

Re: How to play chess on mac?

2014-10-22 Thread Alex Hall
The second time it speaks, what does it say? Your move again? If so, I'm not seeing that, but it also doesn't sound like a problem that would stop the game from working. On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: yes it will tell the move of the

Re: How to perform secure empty trash on my Mac?, and how to change voice on my iPad/iPhone?

2014-10-22 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Regarding securely emptying the trash, when in the Finder, press VO-m to go up to the menubar, right to the Finder menu then down to Secure Empty Trash. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 22, 2014, at 2:12 AM, BobH. long.c...@virgin.net wrote: iOs voices:

Re: my own feedback about Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite

2014-10-22 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Two things here. First, having the computer start up to a specific user is not particularly a safe or secure way to leave your computer, as anyone who sits at your computer has free and easy access to everything on your machine. One may say that you are the only one who uses this

Yosemite, Mail and VO

2014-10-22 Thread Mark Baxter
Okay, I finally un-paused the silly thing, and let it install. Took about half an hour just for the installation, but after permissions repair, lag is negligible. However, I wonder if there’s a way to get Mail to put an “add contact,” button after every message header field? I have to tab

Re: Yosemite, Mail and VO

2014-10-22 Thread Dillon Collier
dillon collier On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, I finally un-paused the silly thing, and let it install. Took about half an hour just for the installation, but after permissions repair, lag is negligible. However, I wonder if

ibooks

2014-10-22 Thread wayne17a
Hello I have asked before about this is there a way to do continuous read on the mac thanks in adance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: ibooks

2014-10-22 Thread David Griffith
I replied before as well but obviously you did not see it. VO A is working fine for me to produce continuous reading in iBooks. David Griffith. On 22 Oct 2014, at 16:48, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I have asked before about this is there a way to do continuous read on the mac

app updates in latest iTunes

2014-10-22 Thread Christina C.
Hello all, In the app grid for apps that have an update. I use to be able to VO spacebar on the app and then interact and go to the bottom to see what’s new in the update. Now, all it says is the size of the app. Does anyone know a quick way to access the what’s new information other than

Re: How to play chess on mac?

2014-10-22 Thread Dionipher Herrera
i already solve it, i just need to uncheck the users voice. can you tell me how to adjust the game so that i can think more because when i pause a minute the chess are getting back on there places. Il giorno 22/ott/2014, alle ore 16:20, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com ha scritto: The second

to those who upgraded Yosemite

2014-10-22 Thread Dionipher Herrera
To those who upgraded there Os to Yosemite who are not a beta tester do you have a feedback app on your dock? just asking. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: How to play chess on mac?

2014-10-22 Thread Alex Hall
The pieces can't move back unless you issue the command to take back your last move. You can tell the computer to wait longer, but that only makes it smarter. Of course, you can take all the time you want, and even close a game and come back to it later. On Oct 22, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Dionipher

RE: ibooks

2014-10-22 Thread wayne17a
Hello thanks I did not get your last message so thanks I will give that a go again thanks From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re:

Re: color detector app?

2014-10-22 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi there I like TapTapSee for it. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I have a friend who is looking for a color detector app to help her know what color her close are any one recommend anything

Re: to those who upgraded Yosemite

2014-10-22 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Don't see one. I had a feedback option on Pages, but I don't see one on the dock. Gigi On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Dionipher Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: To those who upgraded there Os to Yosemite who are not a beta tester do you have a feedback app on your dock? just

Re: to those who upgraded Yosemite

2014-10-22 Thread christopher hallsworth
No I don't. On 22 Oct 2014, at 17:27, Dionipher Herrera dionip...@gmail.com wrote: To those who upgraded there Os to Yosemite who are not a beta tester do you have a feedback app on your dock? just asking. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Newer Isn't Always Better: Multicore Mac Mini Performance

2014-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Hi all, You may recall that I pointed to the new Mac Mini as the only noteworthy announcement from Apple recently. If you use Mac Minis as servers, I now withdraw that recommendation. See this article: http://www.primatelabs.com/blog/2014/10/estimating-mac-mini-performance/ The fact is that

Re: ibooks

2014-10-22 Thread Michael Malver
I would also like to say thank you. I often consult the list of voice over commands available from the help menu, and I don't remember seeing this one. On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:37 AM, wayne17a wayne...@gmail.com wrote: Hello thanks I did not get your last message so thanks I will give that a

Re: Newer Isn't Always Better: Multicore Mac Mini Performance

2014-10-22 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
That's rather disappointing. So the basic issue is that Apple no longer ships a mini with quad-core, only dual core. If you want quad for, say, running vmware you'll have to find something used. According to the article the new Intel Haswell processors require two sockets for a quad while the

iOS 8.1 VO bug fixes

2014-10-22 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
There's been a lot of traffic so maybe I missed this but when I upgraded there were a number of bug fixes listed including the following: Fixes an issue that prevented Guided Access from working properly Fixes a bug where VoiceOver would not work with 3rd party keyboards Improves stability and

Re: iOS 8.1 VO bug fixes

2014-10-22 Thread Eugenia Firth
There is another one which I just wrote Accessibility about. If ou go into Safari, you may find some of the links or buttons absolutely will not work with VoiceOver. I have this to be true on my 5S for links or buttons that want to input something. I can’t figure out the pattern because some

Re: Jumping to the top of the message list in Mail/Yosemite

2014-10-22 Thread Edward Green
Hi Mark, Alex and Gigi, Thanks for your experiences/suggestions. Interestingly the issue doesn’t occur when I’m not interacting with the message table. Ed On 22 Oct 2014, at 09:22, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote: Hello Edward, After countless hours of using Yosemite Mail, on two Macs,

Re: Newer Isn't Always Better: Multicore Mac Mini Performance

2014-10-22 Thread Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
the 2012 versions you can replace the ram with ease I think I will hold on to my mac mini 2012 and just upgrade the ram. this is sad when there going back to soddering the ram in place On 10/22/2014 11:48 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: Hi all, You may recall that I pointed to the new Mac Mini

Re: iOs 8.1 performance on iPhone 4S

2014-10-22 Thread Jessica Moss
I had those same issues with my 4S, which I unfortunately didn't realize I was going to before I updated it, due to the fact that it's an older phone, and actually had no idea you could downgrade again, so you did the right thing doing that, sense you were going to have a rough time of it

Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

2014-10-22 Thread gs
Hmm. I have also noticed that in Yosemite, it does not seem possible to collapse the thread with the left arrow. So if you have moved considerably through a very long conversation, it is quite time consuming to move back to the first message in order to cause it to collapse with left arrow.

Re: iOS 8.1 VO bug fixes

2014-10-22 Thread Jessica Moss
Have you tried upgrading to 8.2 yet? Does voiceover still constantly reboot with your 5C, or has that finally been resolved? On Oct 22, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: There is another one which I just wrote Accessibility about. If ou go into Safari, you may find some

Re: Conversation Participants being Spoken in Yosemite mail

2014-10-22 Thread John Panarese
Left arrow is collapsing conversations here. I am using the standard view. Right arrow expands and no matter how far down into a conversation I am, left arrow will collapse it. Also try command-left arrow. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email,

help with installing over drive on mac?

2014-10-22 Thread Maria and Joe Chapman
HI. am trying to install the overdrive app on my mac. When I open the disk image that I downloaded from the website, I get a message saying disk image manager has no windows. I am then placed back in the finder where my files are. can anyone help? thanks. Maria and Joe Chapman

Re: Copying music etc from the latest iTunes to an iPad or iPhone under yosemeti

2014-10-22 Thread Dean Adams
Hi Tim, After spending some time with apple they have created a fault ticket with the engineering team as they have taken away the method I was using to manually copy music etc across my devices . I have taken your advice and created a play list and am using that to sync my chosen music

Re: Newer Isn't Always Better: Multicore Mac Mini Performance

2014-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
It's ironic because I very nearly sold mine to a relative for a low price, which would have meant I couldn't afford an external storage enclosure I've been saving for. Now it's worth its weight in gold! Guess we should be careful what we wish for. It keeps the money in my pocket, anyway, and