Re: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released

2015-10-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, what about editting in text fields on Safari? Is that still broken? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 4:13 PM Subject: Re: OS X

Re: El capitan installation disk does not work.

2015-10-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
That's the thing. It wouldn't let me create it. It crashed about 3 fourths the way through creating it. I don't remember the wording of the error, but it was something to the effect of an unknown exception error occured. It honestly wasn't very specific. Yeah, the drive definitely was

RE: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread M. Taylor
I completely agree with you Scott, Especially where the Mac Mail application is concerned. I would argue that Mail is as good as it has ever been. I have said it before and I'll say it again, were it not for the Mac Mail application, there is no way I could conceivably manage so many email

Re: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released

2015-10-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, and were you one of the ones who previously *was?* having an issue with this? I know some of you were, and some weren't. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Scott Granados" To: Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:50 PM

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
What aside the obvious of sluggishness is the difference in standard view, vs. classic? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:39 PM

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Perhaps I should stop using the classic view too, then. I’d resent it, but the only way of avoiding the horrible, terrible slowdowns in Mail presently seems to be not to use that view. Deliberate sabotage so Apple can obsolete that view and further solidify the iOSification of the Mac? :)

Re: iPhone 6S question

2015-10-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I don't know what you're friend is talking about. I have a 6S, not the Plus. I understand. This is the plain 6S, and my battery life is fantastic! I can go for about 2 days of very very heavy use before it finally gives me the 20 percent remaining screen. Chris. - Original Message

Re: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released

2015-10-22 Thread Scott Granados
Had no problem doing this 5 minutes ago working with in the Jira Agile tool. Edited large text boxes full of comments and made the appropriate changes with no issues. > On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > OK, what about editting in text

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Mark and others, What even exactly is! the difference from the standard and the classic views anyway, if you don't mind me asking. Chris. - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" To: Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:28 PM Subject:

Re: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released

2015-10-22 Thread John Panarese
I’ve never had problems in edit fields on the web. No issues with 10.11.1 either. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED

Re: moving in text

2015-10-22 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Home=Command+left arrow. End=Command+right arrowe Ctrl+Home=Command+up arrow Ctrl+end=command+down arrow Previous word=Option left arrow Next word=Option+right arrow. Add the shift key to any above commands to select text respectfully. Chris. - Original Message - From: Juan

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Well visually it’s completely different, essentially like on iOS with each entire message's detail displayed in a group format with a resizable view of the content to the right, instead of displaying the message detail in a table format at the top and the message text for the selected message

From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Craig Werner
Hello, everyone. As a MacBook Air user of just under three months, I am posting a little tale about my brief experience upgrading to El Capitan. I do this for two reasons: to acquaint new users thinking of upgrading with one rookie's experience and perhaps to generate a bit of commentary from

Re: Speech as the next GUI

2015-10-22 Thread Scott Granados
Very cool, Close the pod bay doors Hal.:) Can’t be far off. On this front, have you seen the new commercials for IBM Watson? Creepy in a way although I’m all for the rise of the machines. > On Oct 22, 2015, at 12:44 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Scott Granados
The bugs you mentioned were solved in 10.11.1 or so my experience so far has seemed to indicate. Definitely safari is working better and I never had mail issues but I don’t use the classic view. Either way, mail is functioning nicely under 10.11.1 on this side anyway. > On Oct 22, 2015, at

Re: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released

2015-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Nope, still completely borked for me. Can do it with QuickNav off, but as soon as VO navigation commands get involved it’s all FUBAR. VO-right, for example, will skim me suddenly from the very start to the very end, and word-by-word navigation simply doesn’t work. If it’s working for others

Re: iPhone 6S question

2015-10-22 Thread Kevin Barry
I suggest you get more knowledgeable friends. On Thursday, October 22, 2015, Gabe Griffith wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, the size of the plus series is what turned me off of it. The 6 and 6s > are large enough by plenty. > > That is interesting that the 6s battery life is

RE: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread M. Taylor
I have long since suspected that Apple will, eventually, discontinue the classic view in Mail. This is just my opinion, of course. The funny thing is, whenever I see non-voiceOver users, including those in the Apple store, using Mac Mail, they are not using the classic view. I realize that

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread David Griffith
Generally I use the standard view all the time and frankly I get a bit lost in Classic view. Although I am totally blind I love the ability to use the preview pane in standard view and am one of the people who routinely use VO J to quickly read emails. The major annoyance in standard view is

Re: Cereproc And El Capitan, Very Disappointing

2015-10-22 Thread Chris Gilland
I'm not purposely trying to be rude, but what makes you think that they would not give you a refund? Thanks. Chris. On October 22, 2015 5:35:47 PM Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hi all. Well I'm not a really happy camper. This will probably solidify the points that

Re: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released

2015-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
It’s hopeless. The muting is still happening under pressure, and so is the activity-fails-to-switch bug. ARGH! Bug report finger at the ready for the next incoming arrow of misfortune, but I wonder what Apple think they have fixed in this release, then. It’s not right that people see fixes

Re: Cereproc And El Capitan, Very Disappointing

2015-10-22 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Chris, that wasn't rude at all. That is a valid question. A question that I don't know the answer to, but a friend of mine said that companies don't like giving refunds if they can fix issues. We'll just have to wait and see. They're from Scotland so I'll know if they'll give me a refund or not

Re: iPhone 6S question

2015-10-22 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Chris, I must say, your battery life on your success far exceeds mine. I can get a day of heavy use, and that's it. That's about what I used to get on my 5S. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > I don't know

Mark on iOS 9.1, So Far

2015-10-22 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone, Well, last night, I finally installed iOS 9.1 on my 6 Plus. For me, there are no proverbial show-stoppers. 1. However, given that I have been in an ongoing dialog with Apple engineers, I am a little disappointed that the camera app zoom VoiceOver bug still persist. However,

Cereproc And El Capitan, Very Disappointing

2015-10-22 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi all. Well I'm not a really happy camper. This will probably solidify the points that Sabahattin stated about these voices a few months ago, but anyway, I'm in contact with a guy from Cereproc named Graham Leary. Since El Capitan is no longer in beta, I was able to tell him my issues that

Re: These Simple Facebook Shortcuts Will Save You Time

2015-10-22 Thread David Griffith
I have not gone to the website but if the keyboard shortcuts are reliant on using the VO keys, that is, control and option then there will most definitely be a conflict with Voiceover under Yosemite and earlier. control option and numbers are the keystrokes used for hot spot management.

Re: El capitan installation disk does not work.

2015-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
OK. Use Disk Utility to erase the disk first, and try one more time. If DiskMakerX will not do it, then it’s really no hardship to use the “CreateInstallMedia” tool that comes with the app you downloaded from the Mac App Store. Go to the MAS and make sure the button for download on the

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Gabe Griffith
Hi all, This may be a dumb question or at least expose my ignorance but how does one tell if they are using classic or standard view? I am also running Maverics. Thanks, Gabe On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:47 PM, David Griffith wrote: > Generally I use the standard view all

Re: iPhone 6S question

2015-10-22 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I got the 6s and am very happy with it. Although i think its to big for my hands. BUt iits just personal preference i think. /A > 22 okt. 2015 kl. 14:32 skrev Scott Granados : > > Hi Gabe, your friend is on the crack pipe, the battery life in the 6s and 6s+ > is

Re: El capitan installation disk does not work.

2015-10-22 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Intresting. THen i have to try to do it via the terminal. Thanks for confirming this Chris. /A > 21 okt. 2015 kl. 20:36 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland : > > I actually had that same issue when I tried making a disk with the Disk Maker > X Utility, so, though I don't

Re: Mark on iOS 9.1, So Far

2015-10-22 Thread Devin Prater
Well, about Samantha, Apple can't be blamed. It is a Neuance problem. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 22, 2015, at 4:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Well, last night, I finally installed iOS 9.1 on my 6 Plus. > > For me, there are no proverbial show-stoppers. >

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Chris Gilland
David, Have you considered possibly using the search feature within mail being that first letter navigation doesn't work? WinMail is open, press command option F, as in find. would this be a viable option for you? Chris. . On October 22, 2015 5:47:16 PM David Griffith

Re: Cereproc And El Capitan, Very Disappointing

2015-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Yeah, they needed to update these to work with System Integrity Protection, but the voices themselves are pretty useless. :( I’m prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt since they’re clearly not an Apple firm, but I still stand by my earlier recommendation. It’s just not worth it. In

Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

2015-10-22 Thread Jamie Pauls
It's actually 20% and it seems to reset itself each time. I'm calling this a major bug. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Chris Gilland wrote: > > Guys, we have a problem. > > I just opened up the KNFB Reader app on my IPhone 6S, and went to scan a >

Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

2015-10-22 Thread Chris Gilland
Guys, we have a problem. I just opened up the KNFB Reader app on my IPhone 6S, and went to scan a document. The scan was fine, considering the content I was scanning, however the female voice that reads the material was obviously on Ambian or something, as she was so darn slow that it wasn't

Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

2015-10-22 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I noticed exactly the same thing. On the very right, there is a slider that let's you adjust the speaking rate. However, I noticed that, every time I open the KNFB reader, the speed goes back to 20% (twenty percent). That means that I have to adjust it every single time. It makes no

Re: Cereproc And El Capitan, Very Disappointing

2015-10-22 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi! I have never been impressed with Cereproc and their voices, so I can't say this is very surprising they do not work, at least at the moment. Years ago when I first tried them they barely worked, either, and contacting them didn't really resolve anything except they said they would look

Re: From Yosemite to El Capitan and Back: One New User's Story

2015-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Well, speak for yourselves. Everybody is, of course, different and has different preferences. I know that, given the choice to use classic view over the “Modern” view, I would ordinarily choose the classic view, for all the flexibility it gives me. It isn’t for everyone and I can see how the

Re: Cereproc And El Capitan, Very Disappointing

2015-10-22 Thread Matthew Dierckens
Sean, I am also experiencing the same issue with Cereproc Nathan. I am going to contact Graham immediately. Matt Dierckens Certified Assistive technology specialist Macintosh trainer Canadian phone: 5199629140 U.S. Phone: 5734011018 Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 22, 2015, at 18:06, Shawn

Microsoft office 2016 for mac

2015-10-22 Thread denise avant
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RE: Microsoft office 2016 for mac

2015-10-22 Thread george b
Go to www.microsoft.com/office you look on that page and you can find the links to buy the office suites. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 18:17 To:

Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

2015-10-22 Thread Eileen Scrivani
Yes, exactly the same problem I was having with it this afternoon while trying to scan a few pages from a book. The number for speed kept saying 20% and when I tried to tap and then flick up/down it would do “N.O.T.H.I.N.G.” From: Jamie Pauls Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:43 PM To:

Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

2015-10-22 Thread Rod Skene
LOL! Thank you for making me laugh with that slow spelling of nothing. I needed that tonight! thank you again Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse any errors. > On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:57 PM, Eileen Scrivani wrote: > > Yes, exactly the same problem

Re: moving in text

2015-10-22 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Juan, Here are the basic navigation commands: Right one character - Right Arrow; Left one character - Left Arrow; Right one word - Option-Right Arrow; Left one word - Option-Left Arrow; Go to the end of the line - Cmd-Right Arrow; Go to the beginning of the line - Cmd-Left Arrow; Go to

Re: What's the word with the update for El Capitan and VO

2015-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
My opinion is that unless you have a specific reason to move to El Capitan, staying put will give you the better experience. At this stage I’d say the El Capitan experience is merely tolerable, but not great. Responsiveness is a definite plus, and I have come to endure iBooks for sheer lack

RE: moving in text

2015-10-22 Thread Juan Hernandez
Thank you thank you thank you. Best, -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 3:24 PM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries

Re: iPhone 6S question

2015-10-22 Thread Scott Granados
Hi Gabe, your friend is on the crack pipe, the battery life in the 6s and 6s+ is better than the 6 and 6+ I would say by about 10 to 20% or so. Also, I would encourage you to reconsider the plus option. The extra real estate is nice for people with larger hands like myself and also there’s

Re: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released

2015-10-22 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
There really isn’t a change log as such, merely the release notes for the update that is presented on upgrade. You can find a copy of those here: http://osxdaily.com/2015/10/21/os-x-10-11-1-el-capitan-update-for-mac-available/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

RE: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

2015-10-22 Thread M. Taylor
Hello, I, too, am experiencing this problem. The thing is, I don't see how to set a new default speech rate. If such a mechanism exists, then we'd be in business. Was it possible to set a new speech rate previously? Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

2015-10-22 Thread Eileen Scrivani
I’m not sure exactly when it started in the KFB Reader, but I suspect it was with the release of IOS 9. At that time I needed to use a web site for a purchase and when prompted to update my credit card info (i.e. experation month and year) using picker buttons, it would not work. Other people

Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

2015-10-22 Thread Jamie Pauls
Yes. This problem occurred relatively recently. Not sure exactly when, but I’d say within the last week or so. Take care and have a great day. Jamie Pauls jamiepa...@gmail.com > On Oct 22, 2015, at 9:34 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello, > > I, too, am experiencing this

Re: Cereproc And El Capitan, Very Disappointing

2015-10-22 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi Matt. Do you have his email address or would you like me to give it to you? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username: bbstheblindrapper Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com > On Oct 22, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Matthew Dierckens

Re: Cereproc And El Capitan, Very Disappointing

2015-10-22 Thread Singing Sparrow
what is actually wrong with using the voices? On 10/22/2015 10:42 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: Hi Matt. Do you have his email address or would you like me to give it to you? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username:

Re: What's the word with the update for El Capitan and VO

2015-10-22 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, The bug with text being cut off is slowly being squashed. For me, on my machine it happens but it doesn’t happen often anymore. It has been gradually better since the betas so i have full hope it will be totally fixed soon. /Krister > 22 okt. 2015 kl. 15:16 skrev Brian Fischler

Re: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released

2015-10-22 Thread 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries
Hi all. Could someone can point me to the changelog for this last El capitan's release, please? Many thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: These Simple Facebook Shortcuts Will Save You Time

2015-10-22 Thread Brian Fischler
If this worked it would be fantastic but I cannot seem to get the keys to work. I have tried these key sequences with both quick nav on and off but no luck. Tried control option and all the numbers but nothing happens, wonder if there is a conflict with VO and these keys. If anyone can figure

Re: OS X update released and watch OS 2.0.1 released

2015-10-22 Thread Scott Granados
So far so good on the self muting bug as well. Hasn’t happened since upgrade. > On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: > > At least my Safari issue is unresolved, however it looks like they might—and > this isn’t confirmed yet, but they might—have sorted

Re: Fourth GEN Apple TV has no Bluetooth keyboard support

2015-10-22 Thread Scott Granados
What kind of TV do you have that has voice included? I hear my Samsung TV can do it but don’t know much about it first hand. > On Oct 21, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > Hi Scott. > > Let us know how you get on with the new TV. I was going to buy one but as

RE: iPhone 6S question

2015-10-22 Thread george b
I can ditto scott's comments -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 05:33 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone 6S question Hi Gabe, your friend is

What's the word with the update for El Capitan and VO

2015-10-22 Thread Brian Fischler
Have not seen a lot of traction about the El Capitan update that dropped yesterday. Is anything fixed in safari? When you use your arrows to go from link to link are the next links consistently read? Anyone having issues with VO stability in safari as this was a major issue for me and I rolled

Re: El capitan installation disk does not work.

2015-10-22 Thread E.T.
FWIW, I created the El Capitan installer with DiskMaker X today and was able to boot from it. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 10/22/2015 2:21 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Intresting. THen i

Re: Uh, guys? We've got a problem with KNFB Reader for I O S.

2015-10-22 Thread Michael Babcock
seems to be a bug; as if you go to settings and change the default reading rate, once you close KNFB out of the app switcher the speaking rate returns to 20% The way i’ve found to get around this is to either #1 adjust reading rate when first opening app (not ideal but doable) or #2, just keep

Re: iPhone 6S question

2015-10-22 Thread Paul Sandoval
I find the battery on my 6s to be much better than the battery on my 5S was. Sent from Pablo's iPhone > On Oct 21, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes, the size of the plus series is what turned me off of it. The 6 and 6s > are large enough by

Speech as the next GUI

2015-10-22 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
Found this article from Wired interesting. Apparently there was a second PARC team working on a speech-based UI. The article posits that speech will be the next generation of how everyone interacts with devices and computers. Mentions of Siri, Nuance, Apple, Amazon, Google and the other usual

Re: iPhone 6S question

2015-10-22 Thread Scott Granados
I would agree, I have felt each upgrade has been an improvement, meaning the 6 was better than the 5s, 6s better than the 6 and so on. > On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Paul Sandoval wrote: > > I find the battery on my 6s to be much better than the battery on my 5S was.