Hello Simon,
We’re not writing a book on Numbers at the moment. We keep thinking about it,
but it takes so much time which is in short supply right now. People don’t
realise how much work goes into writing a book about a complex application.
There are so many VO commands that most users know no
Hello Alex,
Once again, all this is explained in my Pages book.
To select more than one object using VoiceOver, turn cursor tracking off
(VO-Shift-F3), navigate and bring the mouse to each object in turn, and
shift-click using the physical mouse or trackpad. Use VO-F6 to check that the
right n
Simon, I also live in NZ. Fortunately, I go to Australia regularly, so will go
to the local Apple Store over there and get a hands-on from an Apple rep after
they are released.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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> On 12 Sep 2016
I’m using Mac OS. Could use Windows but why should I if it’s available on Mac?
Also yes, I did get the “No Typing Echo” confirmation.
> On Sep 12, 2016, at 2:29 AM, Chris G wrote:
>
> Did you get the confirmation that the setting was changed, IE characters,
> characters and words, words etc.
>
Did you get the confirmation that the setting was changed, IE
characters, characters and words, words etc.
Also did you have VoiceOver running at the same time?
I just tried this under Windows Chrome and Chromevox and the keyboard
echo was respected.
Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the
I just tested it on a Google Docs document and no way to disable it there, or a
workaround?
I just set it to no typing echo, but Google Docs still speaks typing echo.
> On Sep 12, 2016, at 2:04 AM, Chris G wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Try Chromevox+e then T you need to rotor through the settings. Depending
Hi,
Try Chromevox+e then T you need to rotor through the settings.
Depending on the setting you want, you may need to press chromevox+e,
then T multiple times.
Chromevox+e, then T.
Chromevox+E, then T.
Chromevox+E then T.
etc.
Chris Grabowski
Mystic Access
Where the magic is in learning.
htt
Hi all,
So, I believe I am pressing it correctly, but I cannot get Typing Echo to turn
off. The default classic keymap command is ChromeVox+E>T. That does nothing for
me.
If that doesn’t work, what’s a good command I can change it to without
conflicting with any other ChromeVox commands?
Thanks.
Yes I agree,
I beleave Jobbs words were along the lines of they’d have to provide sandpaper
to people buying the larger screans to allow them to make their fingers smaller
Oh well where would we be without the iPad.
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Best little country in the world!
Clean and green except for Auckland which we just accept as the a hole of the
fish the north island is!
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To: macv
Hi ET,
Wht about the apple health app now part of the IOS platform?
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On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 8:02 AM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: Medical Data
I have the My Me
David,
Good luck getting to try before you buy, I’ve never managed to do this with bt
headsets as they think it’s a H&S issue.
Mind you tha’ts only here in nz things might be different in that country you
live in!
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I was talking to ssomeone at apple today about these and asked them if they
worked on the earlier devices such as 6 and 6s range,
Seemingly the w1 chip in the pods works with the iPhone 7 but works with /
beside standard Bluetooth,
If your phone is an earlier device then the pods will use BT by
I wonder why they're not released until end of October. It would have been
great to pre-order AirPods along the iPhone 7 and Watch Series 2.
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:10 PM David Chittenden
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The new Apple Air Pods, using Apple's new chip, are Bluetooth with an
> additional tec
Hello,
The new Apple Air Pods, using Apple's new chip, are Bluetooth with an
additional technology which, according to Apple, removes all delay from the
audio. So, there should not be any delay in VoiceOver.
The Air Pods will automatically switch between mono and stereo depending on
whether th
Do the AirPods address the inherit lag that is on *all* bluetooth audio
devices, which is pronounced when using *any* screen reader?
i.e. Hope the latency will be equivalent between lightning EarPods and
wireless AirPods when using VoiceOver.
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 2:32 PM Robin wrote:
> ThisCh
Wrong, they still sell the mac book pro 13inch with standard hd and optical
drive,
Specs haven’t changed in a few years but it is still on their site.
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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 6:57
You can have more than one credit card in Apple Pay. You can have one set up as
your default, which will be the one that you can use from the lock screen.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 11, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Gabe Griffith wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Can you enter more than one card into Apple Pay or
Hey scott,
I’m not the mod for the list but this doesn’t need to be on here.
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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 6:43 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Safari & credit cards
Hi,
Can you enter more than one card into Apple Pay or do you have to choose? For
example, if you have a debit and credit card that you use at various times do
you have to make a decision as to which one of those that you are going out to
put into Apple Pay?
Thank you,
Gabe
Sent from Gabe's iP
Hi, yes they still have the 13 inch mac book pro with optical drive.
Good machine if you wish to take the time and up spec it yourself.
Apple say 16 gig ram and a harddrive of standard spindal type or ssd
I believe someone on this list said they had 32gig in one of the older mbp
versions.
Chris,
For the money, the air I believe is still the better buy.
It's cheaper,
It has a higher speced processor,
Ram by default is less but can be increased with custom build.
And harddrives are a similar size
The air also has USB 3 and thunderbolt where as the mac book 12 inch only has a
s
Normally that 8 character you are hearing would be there is 8 characters in the
field,
Try highlighting that field and then deleting what sounds like is in there.
I know when I put in a password the password length is spoken as Jonathan said,
It is a helpful feature,I don't believe this happe
Anne,
The question needs to be asked,
Are you by any chance writing one to go with the pages book?
Simon F
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Sent: Sunday, 11 September 2016 11:49 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sub
Well, the 4 core chips also have other benefits which increase their speeds,
even over single threaded applications over their cheaper counterparts.
Increased cache for one, closer distance between transistors for another and
the ability to turbo boost higher per core You’re absolutely dead on
I just want to clarify one thing: quad core processors don't automatically
double your computer's speed and power. They're great for virtualizing Windows
or other operating systems, but that's about it unless you're using advanced
software designed to use all those cores. In general, apps won't
Thanks, that does help. I wish there were a way to change the item hints to
also use inches when referring to distance from the top/left of the slide, but
this is better.
Hopefully this'll be my last question for a while, but how might I select
objects? I was reading that you can do what I was
Hi Caitlyn,
Thanks for reminding me about Tim Sniffin's Book. I have it and will explore
the Numbers Section.
Doug
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> On Sep 11, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Caitlyn Furness
> wrote:
>
> If you get Tim Smithin’s book, Using the Mac with Voiceover, there is a
> section in there on
I have the My Medical app by Hyrax for both OS X and iOS. Its not
been updated in a year and a half.
While it may still work in iOS 10 and Sierra, I still want to look
into other such apps and am interested to know what others are using
that is supported on both platforms.
From E.T.'s
One of the most beautiful parts of the world though from what I hear. Never
had the pleasure of traveling there but I have heard great things. Even with a
goods and services tax.;)
Ah you know what they say, you were brought to your country in chains
originally and we escaped.;)
> On Sep 11,
For those who do not have cable TV, how do you get around the
requirement by some networks where they want you to use a cable TV
account to gain access to their content on the Apple TV?
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One thing you should do is check on amazon. It’s much cheaper than Apple
direct. I just bought a fully loaded MacBook Pro with a 2.8 ghz quad core I7,
16 GB ram, 1TB SSD storage, upgraded 2GB graphics processor and an extra power
adapter for over 600 dollars less than apple. Came in an unopen
In order to come up with the solutions to the problems we have we must have
dreamers. We will be a lost cause with out them.
> On Sep 11, 2016, at 3:31 PM, E.T. wrote:
>
> (smiles) Its fun to dream, fun to watch Star Trek (I have both the TNG and
> Voyager series) and so much we see today u
Hi, I don’t make that claim I have no idea whether braille will work well but I
will try it now that you mention it. I am not normally a braille user but I do
have a display to test.
Maybe someone has a more informed opinion. My complaints are generally about
the mail app and voice over. Not
(smiles) Its fun to dream, fun to watch Star Trek (I have both the
TNG and Voyager series) and so much we see today used to be science
fiction like the Dick Tracy watch.
Meanwhile... we still need to make use of what is now in our hands.
What will make me believe that the not yet release
Kawal, you’re not used to hearing our accents. Like you in the UK we have a
lot of accents. Your northerners for example sound different from east enders
and so forth. Here language and accents different on the location you’re from.
Someone from the everglades will speak very differently fro
Good thing everyone doesn’t think that way or we’d still be banging the rocks
together and trying to figure out what that that thing is that feels nice to
sit next to and makes the food taste good but hurts if you touch it.;)
I know, E.T> came down and set us straight.
Could be me watching way
I am looking at the refurbished store. Definitely cheaper.
> On Sep 11, 2016, at 12:54 PM, christopher hallsworth
> wrote:
>
> Yes well the plan is to get one late November/early December in time for
> Christmas.
>> On 11 Sep 2016, at 04:20, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>>
>> It looks like apple ma
Definitely check out Gazelle if you want to go through a company for a purchase.
You can get more money on a direct resale like eBay or craigslist but if you
want a larger company to work with they are very very good.
> On Sep 11, 2016, at 7:57 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> For UK s
Yes, some banks use text, some use a call and the text option usually works
seamlessly so in my opinion easier but that’s me.
> On Sep 11, 2016, at 1:37 PM, christopher hallsworth
> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> WIth my bank, I was able to verify I was legitimate fby either text or call.
> I went for th
Yes, Apple pay is noted with a visual logo at the point of sale. It’s also
mentioned as an option in most sites for stores that offer it. You can of
course ask. Typically, if you see one of the new point of sale systems it’s
available.
> On Sep 11, 2016, at 9:18 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
Raises eyebrows and smiles.
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On 9/11/2016 11:43 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
Interesting a felon like your self discussing fraud but there you go.
On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
mailto:clg
So first, I’d echo everything Alex said, very well presented and right on the
mark.
A few things I’d add just to help and hopefully not confuse.
Think about how processor intensive what you want to run is. If it’s very
intensive remember that quad cores have more CPU power than dual cores. Fo
There are no standard HD options unless you go with previous years models.
It’s all solid state now and everyone is absolutely right, this will make the
most difference for you. SSD drives are over 40 times faster than their
rotating counterparts.
> On Sep 10, 2016, at 8:03 PM, Sarai Bucciare
So you know, Apple does not sell the MacBook pro line any more with anything
less than 8 GB. The 2015 models have a minimum of 8 GB and a dual core option
only on the 13 inch and quad core option on the 15 inch.
I don’t believe there’s any such animal any more as a 4 GB model. At least in
the
hello Alex,
You’d find it easier if you changed the Ruler setting in Keynote Preferences to
either inches or centimetres. You can then focus on the whole slide and do
VO-Cmd-F3 to learn the size. This will also help when positioning items on the
slide. Points are completely useless when you hav
Andrew, happy to walk you through it a little here.
What happens is you enter your card data in to your phone. Apple does not know
about and or have access to this data it’s only located in your phone. When
you enter your card data your bank is contacted and a relationship is
established betw
Interesting a felon like your self discussing fraud but there you go.
> On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:55 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
> wrote:
>
> I dono, maybe I'm just weird, but after in 2006 being frauded over 12K, I am
> incredibly leery about this sort of thing. Maybe I shouldn't be, but...
>
Very secure, keychain encrypts most of this data, you should be fine. I use it
as well as well as 1password.
> On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Traci Duncan wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Who’s comfortable storing their credit card info in Safari for autofill check
> out while shopping? How secure is t
Dear Jonathan,
Sorry about not being clear. I was trying to keep the message short. Thank you
for taking the time to figure it out. Basically, I was referring to those
webpages, where for example, you are asked to indicate a date, month, day or
year, and it wants you to choose from the picker it
I don’t either. I trust 1Password. I even have their new individual account.
> On 10 Sep 2016, at 23:29, Christopher-Mark Gilland
> wrote:
>
> I personally don't do it.
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They actually still do Macbook Pros with standard HD configurations, either 500
GB or 1 TB.
> On 11 Sep 2016, at 01:03, Sarai Bucciarelli
> wrote:
>
> It appears they all have SSD options. I didn’t see any standard HD choices.
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:26 PM, Andrew McKay wrote:
>>
>> I would
Same here and can’t wait to start using it on the web. I have the original
Apple Watch so can use and in fact have already set up Apple Pay so I’m good to
go.
> On 11 Sep 2016, at 02:36, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
>
> I will feel a lot safer with ApplePay!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
Yes well the plan is to get one late November/early December in time for
Christmas.
> On 11 Sep 2016, at 04:20, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>
> It looks like apple may refresh there mac line next month. I would hold off
> a bit just in case they do, either you will get a good price on the 2015
> m
Ok thank you.
It could still be an option then, Macbook Air that is.
> On 11 Sep 2016, at 10:34, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Yes the keyboard on the Macbook air is the same as that of the mac book
> retina
>
> I for one find these keyboards great it's the kb on the new mac books
Hi
WIth my bank, I was able to verify I was legitimate fby either text or call. I
went for the former for personal preference.
> On 11 Sep 2016, at 14:02, Alex Hall wrote:
>
> From the user's perspective, you simply add your card to Apple Pay (this
> normally requires calling your bank once, t
I would ignore what VO announces on the password field. Many such
fields actually have something in there as a visual reminder what kind
of input is required.
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On 9/11/2016 9:35 AM, Joshua Tubbs wrote:
Typing
I had to read your message a few times to understand. Unfortunately, not all
pickers or pop-up menus are designed the same, so it would be helpful to know
which site you are encountering issues on. Sometimes pickers are coded as lists
of links, and sometimes they are coded as HTML select stateme
Typing Echo does not just occur in Google Docs.
As for passwords, even if the password field is blank, VoiceOver will still
report “8 Characters, password secure edit text”.
> On Sep 11, 2016, at 12:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>
> Is this just in Google Docs? My understanding is that Google Doc
Is this just in Google Docs? My understanding is that Google Docs uses a live
region to speak items including typing echo. In terms of password lengths are
these auto-filled in passwords if so this is probably a security feature.
Knowing the length of a password makes it much easier to guess. Wh
Hello everyone,
Is there a way to turn off VOiceOver speaking characters as I type them into
edit boxes and Chrome?
Also, in password fields, no matter what it is, Voiceover says that it has 8
characters. Why is this?
I am going to have to start creating documents using Google Docs and it is
goi
Yes, many include the Apple Pay logo, and others offer contactless or NFC
payments that implicitly support Apple Pay even if they don't say so directly.
I've also had luck simply asking the clerks at the places I frequent, and
watching Apple-related news on Twitter to see when major chains adopt
If you get Tim Smithin’s book, Using the Mac with Voiceover, there is a section
in there on numbers. yes, it’s the mac, but Tim uses the track pad heavily, so
it’ll be similar to numbers on IOS…
what I’ve found overall is that you just have to open the app and dive right in
doing things. This
Thank you very much for this valuable explanation.
How does one know that a particular shop or business offers Apple pay? Is
there a particular logo that could be identified?
Andrew
> On 11 Sep 2016, at 14:02, Alex Hall wrote:
>
> From the user's perspective, you simply add your card to Apple
>From the user's perspective, you simply add your card to Apple Pay (this
>normally requires calling your bank once, to confirm it's you adding the
>card). Then, you either double press the Home button on the lock screen or the
>side button on Apple Watch, and hold the phone or watch to the read
Hello,
I’ve read and thought quite a bit about using Apple pay in the UK. I still do
not understand how it would work, both online and in shops. Would anyone mind
describing it a little in practical terms?
Many thanks
Andrew
> On 11 Sep 2016, at 02:36, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
>
> I will fe
Thanks, I'll have a look there. Speaking of sizes and points, how big are
slides? That is, if an image element is 1080 points tall, how much room does
that leave on the overall slide? It's not too bad to get the size information
and imagine where things are in relation to each other, but in rela
Hi.
For UK subscribers as I remember one person on this list was looking to sell
their old I phone.
I have found a company who will give you cash for your old phone as I am due to
use them in due course. They will take phones be it Android or I phone as long
as it’s in good condition.
If any
Hello Doug,
No, there are no books on Numbers with VO.
Cheers,
Anne
> On 11 Sep 2016, at 12:42, Douglas Lawlor wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am wondering if any books have been written on using Numbers from a blind
> users perspective? I am interested in Numbers for iOs if that makes any
Hello Alex,
To resize objects, the easiest way is to go to the Arrange Formatter where you
can change size and position easily. It works the same way as in Pages. When
you can’t see the slide, you have to do a lot of calculating, but it can be
done.
Cheers,
Anne
> On 11 Sep 2016, at 11:34,
Hello all,
I am wondering if any books have been written on using Numbers from a blind
users perspective? I am interested in Numbers for iOs if that makes any
difference.
Thanks,
Doug
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You're quite right. Since then, I spent some time with a sighted person so I
could get visual feedback as I played around. They also gave me general tips on
Keynote. I found hints, or vo-shift-h, on objects were very helpful, and that
arrows or shift-arrows move by one or ten points respectively
Hi Chris,
Yes the keyboard on the Macbook air is the same as that of the mac book retina
I for one find these keyboards great it's the kb on the new mac books that I
find hard to get to grips with.
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Hello Alex,
You’re asking an awful lot of questions in one message and you haven’t given
yourself much time to find the answers.
Use VO-Cmd-F3 and VO-Cmd-F3-F3 to get an idea of the layout of the slide.
If you have my book on Pages, you can find out all about shapes and what you
can do with them
I’ve just turned off the two factor authentication on my ios devices,
When trying to do what should have been a simple install of an app it kept
asking for the code but said I got the code incorrect.
Will revisit it when IOS 10 is released.
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I have a mid to late 2013 mac book air 11 inch,
I had it upgraded to the highest spec processor,
Most ram 8 gig, and largest hard drive possible for the MBA
I still have it today and also running windows 10 enterprise via bootcamp.
As for voiceover
Well that's simple, if you buy a mac computer
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