OMG! Texting is 25 years old
The first SMS was sent on Dec. 3, 1992, but it would be a couple of years
before phones could do it.
December 3, 2017 4:20 PM PST
Texting turned 25 on Sunday, ICYMI.
The first text message was sent on Dec. 3, 1992, by British engineer Neil
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I went to buy an iPhone X. T-Mobile told me it wasn't worth it
Commentary: A visit to a T-Mobile store reveals some very particular
feelings about Apple's new phone.
December 3, 2017 9:00 AM PST
Not worth it?
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I think of T-Mobile most often when I see it's insulted Verizon and
Hi,
I use both and I’m more comfortable with windows as I’ve been using it longer
and more indepth,
There is a lot I can’t do with the mac due to work / enterprise systems we use
such as active directory and exchange based services,
However the mac os is still a major part of our work environ
Hi Donna,
I'm pretty sure that you'll get comfortable with the way the x works,
I can't say I’m missing the home button now I've just gotten use to how the new
interface works.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf
Hey Mark,
I'm just wondering,
If ET gets an iPhone 8
Then will he stop using the old turntable and umbrella to call home?
I'm just not sure the iPhone 8 has the range to reach where he's been calling!
LOL, even I think that's a bad joke.
Sorry ET, couldn't resist.
-Original Message-
NO I had similar issues but that was in my case a lack f paying attention in
the first instance.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Monday, 4 December 2017 10:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.co
Hi Donna,
That just reminded me that yes the auto lock of the phone is set by default
for 30 seconds,
I once up and running went in and changed this to 1 minute which makes a major
difference.
And yeah I think I had an issue such as the having to restart the screen /
phone but only once the
Well Mike, if the day comes that I do need to upgrade to the latest Skype, I'll
look for alternate solutions for my communication. Even if I have to make my
own Team Talk server, that's what I'll do. BTW, I thought this list was called
MacVisionaries, not Windows Visionaries?
Shawn
Sent From My
Hi Donna,
I'm interested you get a ***
I don't remember getting those characters on that screen!
LOL...
If you let the phone lock again and then double tap the screen twice to wake
it,
Then put one finger at the bottom of the screen right on the edge and then
slide that finger up the screen f
Oh yes. Not only does the Mac have an SSD, compared to my Windows laptop, I
once read the battery life estimation, with some keyboard commander
Applescripts, and found that at one point, that MacBook Air from 2015 would
last 12 hours. I know, this varies from power consumption from apps, but my
Hi Eileen,
Glad your setup went well.
Setting up Face recognition isn't that hard. The first time you do it, it may
feel impossible, but if you pay close attention to what your phone is telling
you, you can probably do it yourself with little trouble. someone else posted
on the list to remem
Hi All,
I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up today since I
had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple Accessibility to ask for
assistance since I wanted to be sure everything went smoothly. The tech person
did a screen sharing session with me on my IPhone
Lol. No, no system is perfect, but the problems Windows have just with
viruses and malware alone is enough for me. I used Windows exclusively for over
fifteen years. I still have to use it and the problems I have with it have not
changed back from 1994. That's the biggest problem alone for me
I am an everyday windows computer user and believe me I don't have
issues like that everyday of my life. When I do have problems I know
how to fix them, just like you using your Mac can solve your Mac
issues. Please lets not sit up here like Apple don't have issues with
they're computers.
On 12/3/
I work in tech support for Windows software, I'm reminded why I would never
have another windows machine every time I get a call about a problem with a
file not registering or a dll conflict, the Mac does not have any of those
issues.
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 5:36 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>
>
I also have gone back to the previous version of skype, just copied the
application from my carbon copy cloner backup. I'm sure there will come a time
when older versions will no longer work but the new version has too many
problems, not only is it unresponsive, but finding the features I need i
I am more in the windows camp. Love my win 10 baby. Fast and I can do
every thing with out having to interact and all that annoying crap.
Less keys to do things most of the time. I like my Mac sometimes but
not enough to make me want to use the thing all the time. I was stuck
with just it for a cou
Hello,
I am not going to try and reproduce your name because I always had trouble on
the list about talking Windows phones.
Doug Lee has some JAWS scripts for Skype for business at his web site lee.org.
Even if you choose not to get the scripts you should read his notes about the
keyboard s
Me as well. I have to use Windows for a training contract and some other
odds and ends, and it's more than enough to continue to remind me what a
disaster that OS remains despite every new version. God, do I not miss viruses
and malware and mysterious crashes every other day. Fifteen minutes
I am the opposite, I would not even think of getting another windows machine,
it provides all of the access I need out of the box, web browsing works great
in both safari and chrome.
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>
> Well, I just got sick of waiting for the Mac to mature in t
Hi,
The mountain scene is the High Sierra Desktop background/wall paper, so, yes,
you're on the Desktop of the Mac. Regarding the requirement of entering your
password upon restart, that can be changed, but I highly discourage that. It
is a minor inconvenience that allows for a small layer of
Well, I just got sick of waiting for the Mac to mature in terms of Braille
support and PDF reading, and I’m not that thrilled with a Mail application or
web browsing. I got my first Mac when the current system was snow leopard. That
was a long time ago. And I really expected the system to have m
You know, pretty much, yeah. I can't say I've never hit a glitch, but I've
often just activated and upgraded new phones by myself at home, and for the
most part, it's gone pretty smoothly.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Robin wrote:
>
> NoPressure,Donna as I always Employ TheUse o
Lol. I suspect your right, but the home button was just sooo much easier! :)
donna
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Robin wrote:
>
> You,Donna must be experiencing SeparationAnxiety as it pertains to Apple NOT
> including a HomeButton on its iPhoneX, & I Beleive, Donna will Eventually
> becom
NoPressure,Donna as I always Employ TheUse of Sighted Assistance when
SettingUp My MobilePhones Whether or Not they are of Google's Android
or Apple's iOS
ThankYou,Donna for Sharing YourExperience
Just Curious
Were you,Donna able to Efficiently SetUp your Previous iPhones
WithOut Sighted Ass
I hate Skype on Windows any rate, I have to use Business Skype on windows at
work and try not to use it too much. I am not a novice with jaws any more and
prefer Audio Face time and What's app on the I phone. I have Skype on my Mac
and don't know if it's updated or not, as I don't open it. S
You,Donna must be experiencing SeparationAnxiety as it pertains to
Apple NOT including a HomeButton on its iPhoneX, & I Beleive, Donna
will Eventually become Comfortable with the iPhoneX as She is in the
HoneyMoon Phase
At 01:47 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote:
Hi Mark,
I do think I'll end up being
Wow! I'm glad I'm not the only one who had a rough go, but very sorry you had
to go through that. I can well imagine how frustrating it must have been. And
so far no need to feel stupid. I'd never seen a screen like the one I saw this
morning, and I've been upgrading iPhones since the 3GS.
Got it sorted out, Aleeha, but thank you.
Best,
Donna
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Aleeha Dudley wrote:
>
> Hi Donna,
> Try keeping the phone in front of your face so that it does not lock. It will
> recognize that you are paying attention to it and should not lock the screen.
> Alternatively
Hi Robin,
I wasn't aware he'd done such a podcast, or I would have listened to it. His
podcasts are very good. As for how predictive my experience is, I can't say.
But even if my experience is not typical, I would recommend that blind users
upgrading have sighted assistance handy, just in ca
Hi Mark,
I do think I'll end up being happy with the X, but I have to say, I do miss
that home button! :)
Cheers,
Donna
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 2:46 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>
> Hello E. T.,
>
> Life is good over here in the iPhone 8 world; so come on in, the water's
> fine. (smile).
>
> Mark
>
I've actually had some time to play with it, and I am liking it. It is
noticeably snappier. Given my druthers I'd still take a home button, but I'm
getting used to the gesture. Still in the evaluation phase, but I think I will
come out of it glad I upgraded..
Cheers,
Donna
> On Dec 3, 2017, a
this is subjective, of course, but I think MS is MUCH worse. I use Windows at
work, and most of the time it just drives me batty. I don't think MS is
getting better at all. I'd still take Windows 7 over windows 10 any day of the
year, and I have a sighted coworker who feels the same way. And
Well my set up experience of the 10 was probably more worse than yours Dona.
Lets say I messed up my passcode, although getting beyond the first step was
very hard. Then the verification wouldn't work so I had to call the
Accessibility line, they had to send me a file to get the I phone erased
ThankYou 4 Sharing YourExperience as it pertains to SettingUp your
NEW iPhone, the iPhoneX
I'm curious Did you Listen to Jonathan Moson's BlindSide In
Which Jonathan UnBoxed & SetUp His NEW iPhoneX?
I'm simply curious If YourCase is 1 IN a Million or the NEW Normal
At 10:15 AM 12/3/2017, you
Hello E. T.,
Life is good over here in the iPhone 8 world; so come on in, the water's fine.
(smile).
Mark
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 10:26 AM
To: macvisionaries@go
Hello Donna,
First, let me say how happy I am that you found the info I posted, useful.
That really makes my day.
Second, let me say that I am sorry for your experience as I can only imagine
how frustrating it was to begin using your shiny new iPhone 10 only to be
impeded by completely unexpe
Sorry you had so much trouble setting up your new toy. Hopefully using
it is a lot better than the setup process.
On 12/3/17, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Hi Klip,
>
> I, too, let my old iPhone set up my new one. I don't know why our
> experiences were so different, but they definitely were. :)
> Take
Hi again John.
I got my wife to view the Image and she advises that the whole screen has a
mounting scene on it, like a windows desk-top background image.
Voice over still announced the description I mentioned in my previous message.
I did a VO left arrow and it went away, and so did my wife t
No sense singling out Microsoft. Apple has been doing their share of the same
thing recently. Microsoft is actually getting better, will apple is going the
other way. None of them is perfect.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>
> Nice to know I'm not the o
Nice to know I'm not the only one who finds this annoying. This is a classic
example of what happenes when you try to fix something that isn't broken, from
Microsoft, it's not surprising though.
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 4:36 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>
> Hello Mike,
>
> I couldn’t make any sense
Hi Donna,
Try keeping the phone in front of your face so that it does not lock. It will
recognize that you are paying attention to it and should not lock the screen.
Alternatively, use a one finger swipe up from the bottom of the screen to
unlock it again. VoiceOver will make a sound when you p
Hi Klip,
I, too, let my old iPhone set up my new one. I don't know why our experiences
were so different, but they definitely were. :)
Take care,
Donna
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>
> Well, I did the upgrade process with letting my old iPHone setup my new one,
> so
Well, I did the upgrade process with letting my old iPHone setup my new one, so
I didn’t experience this, one thing I do remember is it kept saying hello, and
the only other option was to make an emergency call, but that all went away
when I selected my language. Sorry your experience was so ha
Looks like I will stay off the fence, on the side with the iPhone 8/8+.
From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to
persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. --Carl Sagan
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 12/3/2017 10:15 AM
Hi all,
For those of you still on the fence, I thought I'd post my experience thus far.
I finally have my iPhone X activated, but it has been one of the worst upgrade
processes I've ever been through. There were several issues.
First, every time the screen dimmed--which, given that this was a
I can't see FaceTime causing a problem like this. I am not sure what the
portable network graphic could be. Do you have a pair of eyes available to tell
you what it's asking you?
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website
Hi Aleeha and John.
I did several VO left arrow commands and reached a box saying Close Graphic
Image or something like that.
I selected this with VO Spacebar and returned to the desktop, so I rebooted and
the same old message came up on boot up.
A reason for this problem is probably associat
Agreed with John here. It sounds like you are on your desktop and that it's
displaying a screenshot you may have taken by accident. Try to go to the dock
or activate spotlight with command space.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 10:51 AM, John Panarese wrote:
>
>It sounds like y
It sounds like you are simply on your desktop unless this is some kind of
new system message. Can you go to the Dock with VO-d or command-tab?
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
APPL
Hi all.
Just when I was coming to grips with my Macbook and Imac, after learing how to
use Facetime, I got what I think was an upgrade. This is because I've not used
either device for some time.
Anyway, when I start both my Imack and my Macbook Pro, I'm getting the
following message and Voice
Ah, thank you so much. What a wally I am: never thought about the time
machine. Thank you so much! So simple!
Best wishes
Andrew
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>
> Hello Andrew,
>
> If you have Time Machine, open your Applications folder and select Skype.
> Open Ti
Hi again Alex and Jonaphan.
Well, I had a go today on my Macbook pro and successfully facetimed my wife on
her Iphone.
It was very easy and now I wonder why I was just so afraid to try it.
Thanks to you guys, I'm feeling quite confident with Facetime now.
My next task is to do the same on my I
Hi all,
So I'm trying to set up my X. Every time the screen dims, I end up at the
stupid unlock screen, where my only option is to click on More Info, which
shows me the phone info: EMEI, etc. There is no way out of this screen, as the
Home button is dimmed. A couple of times I was able to
Hello Andrew,
If you have Time Machine, open your Applications folder and select Skype. Open
Time Machine from the Dock and when it stops making its wooshing sound, use the
Window chooser to get to Time Machine Controls. Press the Previous button until
you’re sure the date is one where the old
How can I revert to the previous version of Skype please? I have some
important work to do via Skype and I had automatic updates turned on. Problem
in the making and panic stations here. Help1!!
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>
> Hello Mike,
>
> I couldn’t make any se
And I don't like the Windows interface, either. It's like everything with
Microsoft, the interface is so bloody cluttered! And most of it is junk you
don't need.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 12:44 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>
> It's pure crap. Voiceover hangs most of the time and all you
Hello Mike,
I couldn’t make any sense of the new interface so I reverted to the previous
one and turned off automatic updates.
My husband, who is sighted, also reverted to the previous version as the new
one lacks many of the facilities he uses.
Apparently, there is quite a lot of criticism of M
Hi fellow braille display users,
Michelle stevens here, to mute voice in VO on the phone or mac braille m with
spacebar.
I have a far easier way, I take off my implant haha
Michelle
Sent from Michelle's iPhone
> On 3 Dec 2017, at 8:53 am, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>
> This would be he "mute
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