Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-25 Thread Chris Snyder
Well said. As one of my favorite fictional characters said: You can get more with a kind word and a 2 by 4 than you can with just a kind word. :D Ricardo, you are absolutely right about standing up and saying what needs saying in spite of any perceived futility. Drop Box needs to hear us all. Of

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Michael Thurman
yes but when an ap WAS accessible and no longer is that should be criminal and is disghusting let's hope that they give a damn and fix it if all developers didn't care abot s we wouldn't have the mac at all and i think apple does realise that alot of us are trning to the mac for accessibility

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Colin M
Hi all! As someone else said it is not Apples place to make dev's add accessibility! But [ and I do not know how this would work] could the apps star rating be made, so it would only get 5 stars if it is accessible! Somehow only people who use accessibility could put a rating that no one else

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread carolyn Haas
Hi Colin: Excellent idea! Anyone can wine and complain about a product or write a nasty-gram. A well-put together constructive criticism might actually do some good. Carolyn H On Feb 24, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Colin M wrote: Hi all! As someone else said it is not Apples place to make dev's add

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Jim Barbour
We've had several discussions on the viphone list about this. People's opinions vary on this subject, mine is below. There is currently no bar that is well defined about what it means to be accessible using VO. We've talked about just allowing users to rate a product based on accessibility or

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Yeah, but the thing is, we're such a tiny piece of the market that our money doesn't do anything here nor there. Just think for a while, how many are blind in the world, and i mean all of the world? How many of the blind are using an Apple product? How many of those Apple product users are on

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Sarah Alawami
I already did a youtube vid. just go to my youtube link in my sig and click the dropbox ink. itis short but it should prove a point. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Sarah Alawami
I pointed the dropbox devs to my youtube vid but they didn't even seem to look at it. at least I don't think so based on there response. so maybe the one who got the more detailed response can point them to what I did to demonstrate and see if that helps them at all as it is a screenshot vid.

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread Ricardo Walker
What a strange post. I have to say the same thing I did then. So what? Just because they choose to ignore you, doesn't mean you should just give up. I will draw a parallel but off course this was a much bigger deal. When African Americans marched and petitioned for civil rights, I'm sure

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-24 Thread T wood
I agree with this 100 %. On 2011-02-24, at 4:11 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: What a strange post. I have to say the same thing I did then. So what? Just because they choose to ignore you, doesn't mean you should just give up. I will draw a parallel but off course this was a much bigger

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-23 Thread Michael Thurman
why does the nfb never get into cases like this yet they destroy our chances for getting discriptive tv programming... wht are these groups like the nfb and the acb doing for us? they probably don't care after all their leadership are all people with PLENTY of money so what do theyc

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-23 Thread Michael Thurman
well honestly I don't think it matters what we do short of a class action lawsuit because like most things noone cares unless you bust them over the head with a 2x4 lol most buisness people I uspect are abotu as stubborn as mules On Feb 22, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Sounds

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-23 Thread Sarah Alawami
and I'm not willing to go there. I'll probably though ask cnet if I can write up a short post about the inaccessibility of dropbox and point them to my video I did. if htey except it hten yeppy for me. more way of getting the message out there. but firsst I have 3 tests to take for my systems

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-23 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi. Ok I wrote to dropbox yesterday, and I got an answer back, where they asked me if I could give them more details. I think that, if you write a mail to them, and describes the problems, I think they will try to solve it, that's how I understand it. we need to be positive, when we are

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-23 Thread Sarah Alawami
that's what I did as well and they asked me for more details as well and then they said we are aware of it and working tward a fix. that was a year ago and again a few months ago and again last month. I've given up and will take this to CNET news as soon as I have the time to write something

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-23 Thread louie
Like I said they don't care and they don't have to. Every one that put me down for saying the above what do you have to say now. On Feb 23, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: well honestly I don't think it matters what we do short of a class action lawsuit because like most things

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-23 Thread Jim Barbour
Are you suggesting that every developer should make sure that every app is VO accessible before the app store carries it? That wuld be tantamount to saying that every app must be availble in, insert obscure written language here, before it could be sold in the iTunes store. So, I say to pick

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-23 Thread Jim Barbour
Er, apologies for the reference to the iTunes store. I forgot which list I was writing to. My point stands though. It is not realistic to assume that every Mac application should be voiceover friendly before the developer can make money from it. Jim On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 04:39:40PM -0800,

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-22 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Look, here's how I see it. They've been telling us for about two years that they know about the accessibility issues witth Drop Box. Every single time one of us writes them about it, all we hear back is, We're aware of the problem. I reckon it's high time one of us or maybe a bunch of us

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-22 Thread Chris Moore
Why not just get a mobile me account and use iDisk instead? Hit them where it hurts, their wallet and vote with your wallet On 22 Feb 2011, at 11:41, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Look, here's how I see it. They've been telling us for about two years that they know about the accessibility issues

RE: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-22 Thread Steve Gladstone
You write: Every single time any one of us has written you about the accessibility problems we've been having with Drop Box, all we hear from you is, We're aware of it and are working on it.. Really? Where's the evidence of your work? You keep saying that you are aware, yet, we see no results.

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-22 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Good point. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Feb 22, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Steve Gladstone wrote: You write: Every single time any one of us has written you about the

Re: [Bulk] Re: My 2 cents about the inaccessibility of the set up of drop box

2011-02-22 Thread Sarah Alawami
Actualy it's the same version free or paid so the only difference you get is the amount of space. Sarah Alawami If you need an edit done on a small project go to http://music.marrie.org/master for more info. If you need to contact me my info is below. MSN and AIM: marri...@gmail.com