Hi!
Something to tell the accessibility team.
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> 26 jan. 2023 kl. 17:55 skrev Dave Carlson :
>
> I’ll toss in something that has been consistent with VO recently. When
> entering user name and passwords on web pages (both Safari and Edge) there is
> a significant lag in speaking the titles to
Hi!
If you have a desktop keyboard with numpad you can also control VoiceOver via
the numpad keys.
I tend to do that more and more.
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> 26 jan. 2023 kl. 17:14 skrev 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
> :
>
>
> On 26/1/23 10:04, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> I agree about the VO ke
Mac is much better!.
>>
>>> On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:56, Tibor Niesner wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
>>> Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
>>> I
esner wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
>> Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
>> I think that Mac OS is usable with VoiceOver. Because people say that
>> accessibility on Ma
Two keys if you use Caps lock. I thought this was something that would drive me
crazy about the Mac, coming from a Windows background, but so what if we have
to do an extra key. I don’t like it if I’m doing long term reading, but it
helps if you think of it in terms of function. Press the key on
> On Jan 26, 2023, at 12:10, Dave Carlson wrote:
>
> Sure, but it still remains that VO is less responsive lately.
Not for me - it has been consistently responsive since I bought the 14-inch
MacBook Pro.
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But that’s a perfect example of what some of us are talking about. VO-right is
three keys, Tab is one. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a huge fan of Windows or
Microsoft. Mostly I much prefer the user experience on the Mac. I just think
there are certain things that can be done more efficiently o
ccessibility on Mac OS?
> Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
> I think that Mac OS is usable with VoiceOver. Because people say that
> accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver is worse and worse.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best regard
>
&
Sure, but it still remains that VO is less responsive lately.
Dave Carlson
Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Woodworker, Musician
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On Jan 26, 2023, at 9:06 AM, Herbie Allen wrote:
In Safari, you can always do VO Right instead of tab.
> On Jan 26, 2023, at 10:55, Dave Carl
In Safari, you can always do VO Right instead of tab.
> On Jan 26, 2023, at 10:55, Dave Carlson wrote:
>
> I’ll toss in something that has been consistent with VO recently. When
> entering user name and passwords on web pages (both Safari and Edge) there is
> a significant lag in speaking the
I’ll toss in something that has been consistent with VO recently. When entering
user name and passwords on web pages (both Safari and Edge) there is a
significant lag in speaking the titles to the edit fields.
I tab to the first field and type my user name. Then tab to the password field.
VO sp
Ah, you’re right. Sorry. Like I said, it’s been years since I’ve used either,
because I find the problems they create are more trouble than they’re worth.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 26, 2023, at 10:49 AM, Dave Carlson wrote:
>
> I don’t think Quick Nav is what you are thinking it is. Quick Nav i
It is set to use the Caps lock and Control option keys by default. You can
disable one of those under general in the VoiceOver Utility. I use it all the
time with no problems. I don’t use quicknav that often. It’s similar to having
your virtual pc cursor off in Jaws. The caps lock key makes the
I don’t think Quick Nav is what you are thinking it is. Quick Nav is used on
web pages for single-letter navigation. VO lock is invoked with VO+semicolon.
Dave Carlson
Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Woodworker, Musician
dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
On Jan 26, 2023, at 7:27 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via Ma
On 26/1/23 10:04, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
I agree about the VO keys. Many things on the Mac require the use of several
keys at once that on Windows can be accomplished with just one or two keys.
An advantage of this, however, is that it avoids conflicts between keys
used b
QuickNav locks the VO keys on, so you only have to press the modifier key. In
my experience, it creates havoc, so I don’t use it, though to be fair, I
haven’t tried to use it in several years, so that may have changed. But you
turn it on by pressing the left and right arrow keys together. You
what is qucik nav? Where would I go to make the vo keys capslock?
On 1/26/23, Suzanne Erb wrote:
> Try using the Caps Lock for VOkey. Also try using qucik nav.
> This simplifies things immensely.
> Suzanne
>
>> On Jan 26, 2023, at 10:04, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree
Try using the Caps Lock for VOkey. Also try using qucik nav.
This simplifies things immensely.
Suzanne
> On Jan 26, 2023, at 10:04, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> I agree about the VO keys. Many things on the Mac require the use of several
> keys at once that on Windows can b
I agree about the VO keys. Many things on the Mac require the use of several
keys at once that on Windows can be accomplished with just one or two keys.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jan 26, 2023, at 8:45 AM, lenron brown wrote:
>
> the vo keys drive me nuts. I mean every time I have had a mac before
> n
the vo keys drive me nuts. I mean every time I have had a mac before
now using so many keys for certain things have made me go crazy, but
part of that is because I don't know all the little tricks around all
of that. Logic and work is one of the reasons I have decided to get
another Mac Book Pro. O
I do use both. I teach online, and I do prefer to do most of my teaching stuff
on the PC. However, to be fair, I’m not sure whether my feeling that that is
easier is because it really is easier, or because it’s habit and I have good
muscle memory for it. On the other hand, I prefer to do most
gt;> accessible will go a long way. I feel like the main reason people s
>>>> struggle is they don’t know VO Shortcuts. I am also a Jaws user and I
>>>> think the Mac is much better!.
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:56, Tibor Niesner
On 26/1/23 07:27, Bill Gallik wrote:
Furthermore, unless someone is using both MacOS with VoiceOver and MS-Windows
with JAWS (or an alternative screen reader) what would be the basis of
comparison anyway?
Chrome OS and Linux users would have additional bases of comparison.
I'm in the latte
On 25/1/23 12:56, Tibor Niesner wrote:
what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
I think that Mac OS is usable with VoiceOver. Because people say that
accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver is worse and worse
I personally have not noticed any degradation of accessibility on the MacOS
platforms. I suspect that the old adage “Familiarity breeds contempt” may be
at play here!
Furthermore, unless someone is using both MacOS with VoiceOver and MS-Windows
with JAWS (or an alternative screen reader) what
;>> struggle is they don’t know VO Shortcuts. I am also a Jaws user and I think
>>> the Mac is much better!.
>>>
>>>> On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:56, Tibor Niesner >>> <mailto:tibornies...@seznam.cz>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
they don’t know VO Shortcuts. I am also a Jaws user and I think
> the Mac is much better!.
>
> On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:56, Tibor Niesner wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
> Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you
Niesner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
>>>> Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
>>>> I think that Mac OS is usable with VoiceOver. Because
d...
>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>>> My e-Mail:
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>
>>>> On 1/25/2023 9:56 AM, Tib
:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
>>> Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
>>> I think that Mac OS is usable with VoiceOver. Because people say that
>>> accessib
On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:56, Tibor Niesner wrote:
Hi all,
what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
I think that Mac OS is usable with VoiceOver. Because people say that
accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver is worse
er!.
>
>> On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:56, Tibor Niesner wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
>> Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
>> I think that Mac OS is usable with Voic
t
> accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver is worse and worse.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best regard
>
> Tibor Niesner
>
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> If you have any questions or conce
evolution inevitable."
>>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>>> My e-Mail:
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>
>>>> On 1/25/2023 9:56 AM, Tibor Niesner wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> what do you think
...@icloud.com
>>>
>>> On 1/25/2023 9:56 AM, Tibor Niesner wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
>>>> Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
>>
--John F. Kennedy
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>> On 1/25/2023 9:56 AM, Tibor Niesner wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
>>> Do you think accessibility is worse and w
t?
>> I think that Mac OS is usable with VoiceOver. Because people say that
>> accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver is worse and worse.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Best regard
>>
>> Tibor Niesner
>>
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ink accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
>> I think that Mac OS is usable with VoiceOver. Because people say that
>> accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver is worse and worse.
>> Thank you.
>> Best regard
>> Tibor Niesner
>
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> The fol
ause people say that
accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver is worse and worse.
Thank you.
Best regard
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> Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
> I think that Mac OS is usable with VoiceOver. Because people say that
> accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver is worse and worse.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best regard
>
> Tibor Niesn
Hi all,
what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
I think that Mac OS is usable with VoiceOver. Because people say that
accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver is worse and worse.
Thank you.
Best regard
Tibor
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