Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-27 Thread Michael Thurman
here here! damn right damn right damn right i am sick of big companies telling me what I can do with somethign that I bought did you knwo that the blue ray discs now as f the first of the year can be made to NOT output high definiton signals ont he componant video outputs

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-25 Thread Scott Ford
Hi Scott G, I feel the same way as you, and for many of the same reasons. Have a wonderful everyone. Scott Ford On Jan 23, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Wow, this is one of the most short sited and close minded responses I've ever seen. That's like saying everything the

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-23 Thread Scott Granados
Wow, this is one of the most short sited and close minded responses I've ever seen. That's like saying everything the Government says is true or police are here to help all the time. Lets take it from the top. Tweaking, taking things apart and curiosity are some of the most basic traights.

RE: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Scott Ford
Hello Everyone, I have read the previous messages on this topic, I would like to respectfully object. I would like to begin by saying that I feel the topic is certainly news worthy. Furthermore I am quite disturbed at how readily folks on this list are willing to just bow to the

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Ricardo Walker
Ok. You would fall into that very small minority group in which such information is news worthy. You said yourself, some funky screws won't stop the adventurous type. I think what Apple did was a waste of time and money. And at the end of the day, it comes off a little petty. But the fact

RE: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Scott Ford
Hello Ricardo, I would like to respectfully disagree with your assertion that things broke down more frequently, back then. Today we have engineered obsolescence, and things are designed to breakdown. I can provide a laundry list to this fact, however one fact still remains, I have a

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Ricardo Walker
I guess we will just agree to disagree here. :). I don't think its mysticism. I think people just don't care. Because of the obsolescence you pointed out that is built into devices. Why spend time fixing something that will be outdated anyway? That pretty much sums up the computer age. I

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Scott Granados
I have to go with Ricardo on this one. Smart phones are far far more complex than your old 60 year old icebox. It's just the way it is. While I agree with you that there is planned failures and products are engineered to break the fact people don't tinker has nothing to do with any mnystery

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Scott Granados
Your crazy if you think the old sears catalog has anything to do with modern smart phone devices. How many possible users who wanted to service their own device woud even know what a gate is let alone the different types or would even be able to source a replacement part. An IPhone isn't a

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Scott Howell
Scott, You miss the point or at least the point I was making. The average (excludes electronics technicians) have little need to be mucking about inside the phone, iPod, etc. You are correct that Apple is protecting its bottom line and rightfully so. If people started messing around with their

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Scott. Whilst I do agree with you, I feel that in this situation, Apple did make the right choice by making there iPhones harder to take apart. You talk about computer repair. When you ran the shop, did you ever get someone who tried to upgrade or fix the computer themselves? Did you ever find

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
I think this is part of a natural phase that various technologies go through. For stereos, you had Heath kits. For computers, you had interchangeable card. In this process, there's a shift toward integration in the hardware, which makes it difficult to tinker with. Even auto companies went

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Scott Granados
Scott, great points and I follow you now. In the end it's probably because Apple can sell service on your device.:) You have some strong points. On Jan 21, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Scott, You miss the point or at least the point I was making. The average (excludes

RE: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Scott Ford
Hi Ben, I never really got into figuring out how to do depot level repairs on the equipment. I naturally replaced cards and built systems, because that was part of the operation of a small shop. I mainly ran the routers, switches and THS system. I do know a guy who if you could get him

RE: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Scott Ford
Hello Ricardo and everyone else who has posted to this thread, I would have to agree that everyone has a bit of truth in what is being posted. We certainly can make many more mods to the equipment than we are led to believe. That is fine though, because you all are correct many folks

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Scott and all, I must say, I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 21, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Scott Ford wrote: Hello Ricardo and everyone else who has posted to this thread, I

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Teresa Cochran
I have enjoyed this thread as well, though I guess it treads the thin ice for topic creep. Makes things more exciting that way. :) Teresa On Jan 21, 2011, at 5:36 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Scott and all, I must say, I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread. Ricardo Walker

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-21 Thread Scott Howell
I purposely left that out because Apple Care is a given. ALthough I have to admit that all things considered, Apple Care is pretty cheap in general. A great example is when the USB port on my first iMac crapped out. I would have found and still find taking an iMac apart to be a painful process.

Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-20 Thread Sarah Alawami
Is this another method apple i using to control repairs and keep consumers out? read more: http://bit.ly/gpoTpd -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-20 Thread Scott Howell
Gee, have you considered that maybe Apple doesn't want you mucking about in there and then trying to claim the device has some sort of flaw, which means they would have to replace or repair it? There is a reason why they don't want the average person messing with the internals. Now once out of

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Lol, I think this is quite funny. Really, unless your the like 1% of iPhone owners who want to take your device apart, is this even news worthy? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Scott Howell

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-20 Thread Wes Smith
Lol. I agree with Ricky and Scott. I mean, really? I've had no desire to take my iPhone apart, and besides, I wouldn't know what the hell I was doing anyway. Lol. On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Lol, I think this is quite funny. Really, unless your the like 1% of

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-20 Thread Wes Smith
Oops. Didn't reply to all. Lol. I agree with Ricky and Scott. I mean, come on, really? I've had know desire to take my iPhone apart, besides, I wouldn't know what the hell I was doing anyway. Lol. On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:25 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Lol, I think this is quite funny.

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-20 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
I can't think of any reason why someone would want to take apart there iPhone while it's under warranty anyway. Whats the point in attempting to fix something if Apple will do it for you and will in most cases do a much better job? On 20/01/2011, Wes Smith wes1020002...@gmail.com wrote: Oops.

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-20 Thread Sarah Alawami
Oh no I'm aware of that and I don't have even the knoledge of the inside of any phone lol! but what about those of us who are smarter then the avrage tinkerer? lol. they might be able to make a something that might make my phone do my dishes and homework. lol! On Jan 20, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Scott

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-20 Thread Sarah Alawami
Yeah same here. Im not a person who likes the insides of a computer. Hehaha! On Jan 20, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Wes Smith wrote: Lol. I agree with Ricky and Scott. I mean, really? I've had no desire to take my iPhone apart, and besides, I wouldn't know what the hell I was doing anyway. Lol.

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-20 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Scott: Happy to say we agree on this one.:) Carolyn H On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Gee, have you considered that maybe Apple doesn't want you mucking about in there and then trying to claim the device has some sort of flaw, which means they would have to replace or

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-20 Thread Carolyn Haas
Sarah: Just marry the right fella and there ya go, don't even need to take the phone apart!:) And if he's really the right guy, he'll even be able to troubleshoot your computer. Ah, never mind. Think I'll just get better at both. Now where's my screwdriver?:) Carolyn H On Jan 20, 2011, at

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-20 Thread Scott Howell
If someone has that knowledge then they would have the tools to remove the screws. However, again, the point is to keep people like you who do not have the knowledge from attempting to replace batteries and the like, but ends up breaking the device. You know your limitations, but some do not.

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-20 Thread Karen Lewellen
ahem, I think not. the smarter than average thinker will think it unwise to tinker with such an investment. I have note even read it, and i find the concept hilarious! Actually its rather common for them makers of electronics to strongly suggest that opening them up to have a look is a very

Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware they paid for.

2011-01-20 Thread heather kd5cbl
Well, that would be like watching tim the tool man tailor, right! - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Apple screwing iPhone users to block them from opening the hardware