RE: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-07-01 Thread Bryan Smart
When you move a file, the computer just changes info stored on the drive about where the file is stored. It doesn't have to spend time actually making another copy. That's why people want to move instead of copy. Copying a 1GB folder takes as long as is required to copy 1GB of data. Moving a

RE: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-07-01 Thread Bryan Smart
Because no one needs it, except for the 1% of 1% of Mac users that are blind. Would have thought that someone would have even had spare time to get around to it by now. Has been that way a long long time. I'll have a better solution for this than the move file script by next week, along with

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-07-01 Thread Sarah Alawami
Not in my case. I moved 4 gigs of stuff and it took almosst 3 to 54 minutes or there abouts to do it. I was timing it. and this was on a windows machine. there might be a different thing for the mac but yeah. S On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: When you move a file, the computer

RE: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-07-01 Thread Tinker Tweak
Respectfully . Maybe you were moving files or folders from one drive letter to another. So if that were the case, then the time to move will be the same as in copying. But when you only move files and folders to a different location but within the same drive, then it will only take a few

RE: Never Mind, Was Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-07-01 Thread Tinker Tweak
Sorry but it could never be the case. One cannot put files into oblivion by using cut. The OS only actually cuts after doing a paste. More over, it only cut and paste the very last thing you issued the cut command. You can press the cut command while browsing files and folders endlessly and

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-07-01 Thread Cody Hurst
this is very funny how this thread has gotten so very philisophical.laughs On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Tinker Tweak wrote: Respectfully . Maybe you were moving files or folders from one drive letter to another. So if that were the case, then the time to move will be the same as in

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-07-01 Thread Sarah Alawami
yeah I was. I'll take that in to consideraton and try it when I get th echance. S On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Tinker Tweak wrote: Respectfully . Maybe you were moving files or folders from one drive letter to another. So if that were the case, then the time to move will be the same as in

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Anne Robertson
Teresa, Copy and paste works everywhere, Cut and Paste only works within documents where the Undo feature is available. The reason Cut and Paste is not available for moving files is to protect against loss of data should the computer crash during such an operation. I would say there is as

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Cody Hurst
that issue has been there for as long as I can remember On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However,

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
I don't think apple will change it. It would be nice but I sopy and then keep the ros selected until I know they are there and then they are gone. a 3 step process but it works. On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:21 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: that issue has been there for as long as I can remember On Jun 29,

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread michael babcock
hi; If you want a version of Cut you can use temrinal commands, look up basic file movement using terminal on the mac. mike On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I don't think apple will change it. It would be nice but I sopy and then keep the ros selected until I know they are

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Cody Hurst
yes which would be the mv command as such mv source file destination file On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:44 AM, michael babcock wrote: hi; If you want a version of Cut you can use temrinal commands, look up basic file movement using terminal on the mac. mike On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Sarah

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things.

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Kaare Dehard
there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and is not likely to go awyay... Cheers, Kaare. On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM,

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Cody Hurst
I tend to concur with that assessment, but this script should be easy enough to set up. rather than do as the page says and install it via the system preferences, one could just open voiceover and make a keyboard commander short cut as none of us would be working with a ma without voiceover

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Cody Hurst
if a person cannot cut and paste without creating 5000 aliases, then they probably shouldn't be using a computer :p /*sarcasm off*? On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote: there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used to simulate drag, drop and remove.

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live without a cut feature as I looked at some Mac tutorials. So I actually knew about that one going in. I figure if I wasn't happy with a basic feature of an OS, I wouldn't use the OS. As for dragging and dropping, it might be a

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Chris Moore
No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change the fact that Apple do not want users (sighted or blind) to cut in the finder. Shame Apple had not supplied a move file/folder feature for moving items. There used to be a hack you could enter into the terminal to unlock the greyed

RE: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Bryan Smart
There is actually a technical reason, or there was, at one point. If you cut/paste a file, that should be a move of the file. Except, if you cut/paste to another hard drive, in which case, instead of a move, the Finder must perform a copy to the new drive, then delete the original. Supposedly,

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
When dragging and dropping, aren't you just copying and pasting anyhow? If one were to compare what is actually happening with the files, wouldn't it take just as long to drag and drop a 1-gig file as copying and pasting it? Teresa On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote: Hi Teresa,

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Cody Hurst
Hm, if that be the case, why not just remove the damn option from the edit menu? hell you can't even cut in amadeus pro and some aps I dont' think On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Chris Moore wrote: No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change the fact that Apple do not want users

Never Mind, Was Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Sorry; disregard my last post to this thread. I was confused, but on a more careful reading it all became clear. I guess I don't mind copying files instead of cutting. I've put many a file into oblivion in Windows by cutting, so I guess I can deal with the extra time it takes to copy. Teresa

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Cody Hurst
I have also found this link which is an alternative. I'm going to keep researching this further http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20081112153330648 On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Chris Moore wrote: No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change the fact that Apple do

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Cody Hurst
it is all subjective but the fact is that cut and paste is faster it eliminates the step of deleting. we should advance forward in this world of technology not stay behind On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote: Hi Teresa, I wanted to comment on your suggestion that it is easier to

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Cody Hurst
For as advanced as the finder is, I don't see hwo this could have been an issue at all, especially now. and especially considering how fast machines are nowadays, with multicore processors, why is this still an issue? On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: There is actually a

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Chris Moore
H now I would imagine the feature is probably enabled in all applications apart from the Finder. But when in finder maybe the option should change to Move instead of Cut. So it would be like copying, accept when you hit Move instead of cut the items are not deleted immediately until you

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Cody Hurst
I have done some reading and the script posted here on the italian website seems to work the best and I think that this is the best solution. it is very easy to set up but the table in the shortcuts section fo the keyboard preference is a bit tricky I never understood the treeview like table in

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
I option click all the time. Just hold down the options key and click wiht the physical mouse pad. S On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Sarah Alawami
Actually you can. I do it all the time. Take care. S On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: Hm, if that be the case, why not just remove the damn option from the edit menu? hell you can't even cut in amadeus pro and some aps I dont' think On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Chris Moore

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Maxwell Ivey Jr.
hey; i don't have a problem with the command x not being there. I don't even care that drag and drop doesn't exist on a mac. but the one i wish they would add even if they have to give it a different name is the move from windows. You can do it in mail so why not in finder? maybe i

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Cody Hurst
ok I stand corrected. I wonder why, though, some have the option to cut and not have it grayed out On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: Actually you can. I do it all the time. Take care. S On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: Hm, if that be the case, why not

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Cody Hurst
it is not an accessibility issue, it's a finder issue On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: hey; i don't have a problem with the command x not being there. I don't even care that drag and drop doesn't exist on a mac. but the one i wish they would add even if they have to

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi, I downloaded the script from that site, but I don't have a clue as to how to get it working? Can someone please help, don't know anything about scripts. Copying and pasting is getting to be a real pain (smiley). Courtney On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: ok I stand corrected.

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-30 Thread Cody Hurst
here are trhe steps in english as those instructions on there were not very clear 1. download and copy the script to ~/libruaries/Services. if you don't have a services folder then create it, remember it is capital S in services 2. open system preferences, click on keyboard, go to the

How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread Alfredo
How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder from one location to another.

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Alfredo, With VoiceOver, you can't drag an item from one folder to another, you have to copy and paste. You can drag an item from one position in a list to another position in the same list, such as reordering languages in System Preferences. You can also drag and drop signatures in Mail

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread Cody Hurst
Im having sort of the same issue, only I'm trying to drag an AVI file into iDVD, but the issue is that when I do VO command shift space for a mouse down then switch to idvd and route the mouse and do that same command again for mouse up, it does another mouse down, so how am I supposed to drag

How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread Alfredo
How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder from one location to another.

How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread Alfredo
How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I did not understand how to do this. Has anyone had success doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about dragging a file or folder from one location to another.

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread rossy
hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help . rossy www.universalaccess.it Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: How to you drag a file or

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread Alfredo
There is an error ont he webpage, can you please post the link again. Alfredo thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi, I'm not sure how to run scripts, can someone please help? Courtney On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:21 PM, rossy wrote: hi , if it can help you here you can find the script move file . this helps for the cut and paste . http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ let us know if you need help .

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread Chris Moore
I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I tried to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit etc. I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if they

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread William Windels
Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning to change this in the near future. It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in the mail of Rossy. I use

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread Chuck Reichel
Hi Chris, I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them when drag and drop would be fixed in Snow Leopard. It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there attention. They said that they are working on it! Talk soon On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread Chris Moore
Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it. What were Apple thinking of? Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of scissors? (frown) Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck Reichel

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder. Teresa On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it. What were Apple thinking of? Do they not think we can be

Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-06-29 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi, I got the script, but I know absolutely nothing about running scripts. Can someone please help? Thanks in advance, Courtney On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:08 PM, William Windels wrote: Hi Chris, This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder. apple knows already of this