Re: Is it me or is iCloud one of the worst designed sites to use with VoiceOver

2014-02-19 Thread John Panarese
The trick to iCloud is making sure you VO-space on the item you want. In some cases, you then have to interact with a frame to see the specific settings. It's much better than it was and there are still a few areas that need fixing. Write to Apple accessibility about these and be specific

Re: Is it me or is iCloud one of the worst designed sites to use with VoiceOver

2014-02-19 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Brian, In addition to what John mentioned, you could also use the tab-key to more easily move around the site then either press return or VO-space to activate an item. One thing that I've always made sure that I've done is to check the box in the Advanced pane of Safari Prefs that tells

Re: Is it me or is iCloud one of the worst designed sites to use with VoiceOver

2014-02-19 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Tim, Again thanks for kicking me in the head to remove gmail from my computer and migrating everything over to iCloud, as that part worked well, and since completely removing my gmail account from the desktop my computer is back to running much better, and mac mail isn't having any

Re: Is it me or is iCloud one of the worst designed sites to use with VoiceOver

2014-02-19 Thread Alex Hall
Brian, I'm with you. I can't bring up the preferences at all anymore, and the one time I did, nothing was labeled. I just want to create an alias, but I can't because it is not accessible. I seem to be able to check mail, but beyond that, nothing works reliably with Voiceover. -- Have a great

Re: Is it me or is iCloud one of the worst designed sites to use with VoiceOver

2014-02-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
Basically, as have to interact with the mail frame. If you change anything in there, you have to back out and interact again. So to get to preferences, you have to go into the mailboxes area win the mail frame, press the actions button, then go back into the frame and press the preferences

Re: Is it me or is iCloud one of the worst designed sites to use with VoiceOver

2014-02-19 Thread Alex Hall
Thanks, that really seems to help! One question, though: I can't seem to create aliases, even now. Things go much better - I can see the different fields and the only unlabeled controls are the color button to assign to the label - but nothing happens when I click OK. The first alias I tried

Re: Is it me or is iCloud one of the worst designed sites to use with VoiceOver

2014-02-19 Thread Teresa Cochran
Ok, I admit that I'm stumped by this as well. I went to add alias, sure it was going to work. I even used VO-command-f4 to route the keyboard focus to the edit field for the alias. Still, the buttons are dimmed. I apologize for the misleading statements. I really was fooled that it would work.

Re: Is it me or is iCloud one of the worst designed sites to use with VoiceOver

2014-02-19 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all, try using VO command shift space bar on the text field where you want to enter the alias, as using this command is the only way I can seem to enter text in the rules edit fields. Although I created 8 rules last night and they are all gone so not sure why they didn't save. On Feb 19,

Re: Is it me or is iCloud one of the worst designed sites to use with VoiceOver

2014-02-19 Thread John Panarese
I have set up two aliases, but I know you had to really fiddle with it. I'll take a look again and see if I can figure out the steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE

Re: Is it me or is iCloud one of the worst designed sites to use with VoiceOver

2014-02-19 Thread John Panarese
You have to navigate to the, Done, button with any aspect of the iCloud site. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED

Is it me or is iCloud one of the worst designed sites to use with VoiceOver

2014-02-18 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all, Ok, so I am making the jump from gmail to iCloud. I was told I would need to use the iCloud website to create my rules if I wanted the messages to follow those rules across devices. First I had to reload the iCloud website three times as VoiceOver wouldn't even allow me to enter my