Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-21 Thread Les Kriegler
Now that I can reliably go to the top and bottom of the message list in my inbox, I offer the following suggestion. You must make certain you are interacting with the messages table for this to work. If you hear something like "sort by date", it is likely you are not interacting with the table

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-21 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Colin, Okay, at least for the moment, I can go to the top and bottom of the message list! It works under Navigation, Go to Beginning for Option 1, and Go to End with Option 2. Thanks for working this through with me; it kept me going until I finally nailed it. Les On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:58

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-21 Thread Les Kriegler
Colin, I have gone through all 13 categories and I can not locate the option you reference. I will check again. Apple definitely removed the Jump option, as it is not in the category list, I also checked with VO H-H. Les On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi there! > OK When yo

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-21 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Lisette, I'm a bit confused as to how you're viewing your mail. I find Classic View to be simplest and I get rid of the preview pane. In this way, I have the list of my mailboxes on the left and a list of messages on the right. I press Return to open a message and VO reads it straight thr

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-21 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Thanks to you for trying to help us figure this out. When I follow the steps to set a short cut key to move to top of email list, it still takes me to the "sort by date" button. vo down arrow takes me to the top of the message list, even though I've set it to go to the visible end. Could my i

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi there! OK When you open the menu to select which command you wish to use instead of going to the navigation sub menu at or near the bottom should be the Jump sub menu! If it is not there maybe Apple have removed or renamed it! It should also turn up if you call up VO commands with VO+H+H hth

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Les Kriegler
I am using Lion and in the Keyboard Commanders table, I do not see an option for Jump Submenu. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Sorry this could be my fault! > Try picking the go to top most item and the bottom most item from the Jump > sub menu instead and see if that works

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Red . Falcon
Hi again! I've checked and that is the right command to pick from the Jump sub menu! If you wish to check it out 1st just press! VO+shift+J and then straight away VO+shift+down arrow and you should find yourself at the bottom of the page still in the same column as you were! And then do the same [

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Red.Falcon
Sorry this could be my fault! Try picking the go to top most item and the bottom most item from the Jump sub menu instead and see if that works! Sorry about that Its been a long time since I made them! Colin On 21 Jun 2012, at 00:08, Les Kriegler wrote: > Okay, I think I have go to visible end s

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Les Kriegler
Okay, I think I have go to visible end selected. But here is additional info. If I go to the bottom of the message list, then Option 1 does not work. If I go to the top of the message list, then Option 2 does not work. So I am stumped. I'll have someone eyeball this and see what they notice

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Red.Falcon
The only thing I can think of is you might have picked the wrong item in the menu! There is the go to End and go to most visible end! Just check which one you have! And if you got the right option of command I do not know why it is not working for you! On 20 Jun 2012, at 23:50, Les Kriegler wrot

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Les Kriegler
Okay, I set up the actions and for some reason, only one works. So in other words, I interact with the Messages Table and issue the go to top of messages list with Option-1. Then if I immediately issue the Option 2 command, I go down the list, but don't reach the bottom. What have I missed?

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Les Kriegler
Okay, great. I missed the last part, going to visible top and visible end. Thank you. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 6:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! > But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! > I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! >

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Red.Falcon
OK Yes there is the trackpad option as well! But if you want the Keyboard version here it is! I'll do it as if someone needs it from the beginning! 1, Open VoO utility with VO+f8 You should be on General scroll across to the [allow voiceover to be controlled by applescripts ] check box and checki

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Traci
I as well use control-option-shift home or shift-end. Since I'm on a macbook Air, I need the function key. After a while, I found all these buttons annoying, so i use the trackpad commanders and set up shift-flick-down to go to top and shift-flick-up to go to the bottom. So much easier. :)

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Les Kriegler
Can you explain how you set up Right Option 1 and 2 to tho to bottom of message table and top of message table? I went into VO Utility, Keyboard Commander, chose Right Option 1, but could not find the appropriate action to assign that keystroke. Thanks. Les On Jun 20, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Red.Fa

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Ok well that doesn't work for me. I wonder what I've got screwy in my mailbox. I still can't see my on my mac mailboxes. So something is very weird with mine. How did you set up those short cuts. On 21/06/2012, at 8:58 AM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi there! > That command works here OK! I'm using a W

Re: Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi there! That command works here OK! I'm using a Wireless Keyboard so need the FN key as well! So I hold the FN+VO with my left hand and do Shift+left/right arrows with my Right! Also I've got a Keyboard shortcut to do the same thing! So all I do is press right option+1 to go to top and 2 for t

Moving to top of message table

2012-06-20 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi all, Is there a way of quickly getting to top of message table in mail? When I do vo, fn shift left arrow, I get to a button called "select by date menu button". I'm still at the bottom of the message table. I can obviously arrow up but that takes a while with a large mailbox. Any suggestions?