Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-25 Thread BBS
Hi guys. The only times I have issues with Voiceover having stuttery speech in Mavericks is when starting up my Mac after shutting it down, which is rare, and if using Fusion in the background Windows is doing something heavy like an update or being stupid. Other than that, my Mac runs great.

Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Brian Fischler
This is starting to get unbelievably frustrating as when I get to work I expect to work and not deal with hours of hours of VoiceOver problems. I just did a system repair and all was working fine for two days and now VoiceOver is back to being unbelievably choppy when reading anything. Multiple

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Sounds like you might want to do an OS reinstall. Back your drives then do the install fresh after hard formatting the principal drive your OS was on. A bit dramatic, takes about two and a half hours, but, well worth the effort. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Ray, Yeah been trying to do everything except that, but might have to try and do that this weekend, as this is just getting ridiculous. My concern would be if I take the time and effort to do that and still have these issues I might blow a gasket. Amazingly, the choppiness hasn’t occurred

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Alex Hall
Brian, just so you know, you're not alone. While I can usually read things fine, VO has also returned to the occasional choppy, broken speech I have been dealing with ever since Mavericks. Apps are also still slow to load, and more and more often, emails take longer and longer to open. My

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I sometimes get that choppynes too. Last night after the update, it was choppy for a while. I have No Sleep installed on my Mac, and it sometimes help just plug it in and just leave it for a while. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen,

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, I have found that a fresh clean install is usually the way to go after about a year or so. May want to do it myself before April or so. I believe a clean install might be the ticket for you. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in!

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Alex Hall
But I don't want to! :) I know it would be the best thing, but I'm not looking forward to re-installing and reconfiguring *everything* on the Mac. At least the process has Windows beat - I can grab most of my apps from the App Store, put my services back quite easily, and copy the vast majority

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, I’d say just go for it. With all your apps and settings backed up, I don’t see that it’s that much of a pain for goodness sake. Beats trying to do it in windows anyhow. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Alex Hall
Well, the files are, but you can't just dump all your backed-up apps back onto the system, at least as I understand it. On Jan 24, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: Well, I’d say just go for it. With all your apps and settings backed up, I don’t see that it’s that

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, I don't know bout that. My stratigy is to save the actual disk image files in which the apps are to Drop Box. Then, when the new install is done, load all those disk images in and install the apps. As to the serial numbers, Save those in .txt or .rtf form to Icloud and then, as you

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Alex, Glad someone else sees it my way. Amazingly, the choppiness has gone away again. I just want to find out what is causing it, as it drives me bonkers having voiceover have a speech impediment, and and stutter. Of course if I do do a full reinstall at least I could probably get Downcast

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread BBS
Hi Daniel. Just curious after your last message. Did Apple release another update to Mavericks or did you say that you just updated to 10.9.1 just last night? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook On Jan 24, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com wrote: I sometimes get

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Alex Hall
I can tell you there has been no update after 10.9.1. Betas of 10.9.2 are coming regularly, but there is no known release date for that update yet. On Jan 24, 2014, at 3:21 PM, BBS bbssh...@samobile.net wrote: Hi Daniel. Just curious after your last message. Did Apple release another update

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Alex, Yeah VO worked for two hours without the choppiness but now is back to being ridiculously choppy it is so bad that when you type an email it tells you are word is spelled wrong mid word because VO gets caught or something. Very disappointed with Mavericks and VO. I am a Apple

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, There are a few processes that happen when a machine is first turned on that, for non VO users, just wouldn't be noticed. For example, if you shutdown or put your computer to sleep overnight, there is a nightly HD tune-up that the OS will perform once the machine is awakened ready to go.

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I don't think this is a Mavericks/vo problem per se or at least all by itself; there would apparently seem to be some other variable along with Mavericks and vo that is triggering this since there are many people who are not experiencing the problem along with those who are. I upgraded to

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Tim the Apple customer service guy agreed with you as he told me that a clean install is the very very last thing he would do. Go figure VO is back to working again, very bizarre behavior. On Jan 24, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Tim Kilburn kilbur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There are a few processes that

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Cheryl Homiak
That's a good point about clean installls. It would be really hard not to put the problem back in the new install as you added apps on and set up all your preferences. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Alex Hall
I know a clean install is not usually necessary, but I can't think of anything else to try. I have: * uninstalled Soundflower, which reports suggest can cause audio processes to run constantly and eat CPU power like crazy * repaired disk permissions multiple times, the most recent from Safe

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Daniel McGee
Bryan, I am really sorry you seem to be experiencing such awful chopping issues under Mavericks and VO. The only time I have had this occurred with me is when I power up my late 2011 MBP I get VO stuttering as it were through the standard “Welcome to OS 10. Voiceover is on.” This is using the

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello, sorry I was not clear enough. I Work updated, and that what I did lastnight. To the other Daniel, I have a Macbook Pro with a spinning Harddrive, and I always get that stutter at startup. My wife have a Macbook Air, and she does not get that stutter. I even changed her “Welcome to

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Daniel, Yup you are right, I can't stand the compact voices. I do have multiple voices installed and the sluggishness is with all of them. I am not even sure how I would revert to the compact voices, will have to look in to it the next time the skipping words happens. On Jan 24, 2014, at

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Alex Hall
I tried using Fred for a while. I didn't notice stuttering, but it is a very random problem anyway. However, the overall sluggishness of the system persisted. Good thought though, thanks for the suggestion. On Jan 24, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Daniel,

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Jessica D
I have never had thisissue. I am currently using Tom because he sounds the most human to me. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote: I tried using Fred for a while. I didn't notice stuttering, but it is a very random problem anyway. However, the

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Greg Aikens
Hi, I am experiencing this periodic choppiness in speech and even sluggish response from VO. Restarting VO helps sometimes but sometimes it doesn’t. When it is at its worst, I also hear fan noise as though my laptop were running hot or some process is eating up all my CPU. Any tips of what

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Mario Navarro
yes, tom is very good. I am using tom to. cheers. A dignidade pessoal e a honra não podem ser protegidas por outros. Devem ser zeladas pelo indivíduo em particular. Mohandas Gandhi Mario Navarro mario@gmail.com No dia 25/01/2014, às 00:12, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com escreveu: I have

Re: Unreal VoiceOver very choppy again

2014-01-24 Thread Alex Hall
You can try looking at the top processes. Select CPU from the toolbar, then find the processes table and interact. Hit vo-shift-backslash, vo-space on the sort option you want (CPU usage is the most helpful here), then vo-shift-backslash again. Option-up to jump to the first item in the table,