Regards,
Gigi Hi guys
I just tested out something because I wanted to know if you could be done. If
one has forgotten to set triple click home these days, you can now tell Siri to
turn voiceover on. I have been wanting that. Just thought you guys would like
to know.
Sent from my iPhone
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I'm not arguing with that. It's the way many programs deal with interaction
that's the real problem in my opinion. Lots of separate sections with multiple
layers and no efficient method to switch between them like you can through
containers. I understand the concept and see how it can and often
I'm thinking of Garage band and how often you interact and stop interacting
over and over again. There are some key strokes but it's still such a time sink.
I don't know how it could be done away with fully but better use of interaction
by software would certainly make life easier. Have it be
But interaction makes so much more sense.
Its basically telling VO, this is what I want to focus on, and not like
windows where it reads you every single thing and half the time you have to
read it anyway, and with VO you can choose to or not.
Matt Dierckens
matt.dierck...@gmail.com
IOS and
HI. yep I agree about interaction. Once I got used to it I kind of really
like it.
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Maria and crew from australia
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On 04/08/2013, at 9:55 PM, Matt Dierckens
In my opinion interaction really is very efficiant because it's so logical. But
on the other hand it's not obvious to people who are new to this on the Mac
when to interact and when not. There are to many different names for things you
can interact with: groups, scrol areas, tables sometimes
Hi,
In garageband I just set up hotspots for the buttons, sliders, etc that I use
most often. This cuts down the time I spend navigating within the app a lot.
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On Aug 4, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Danny Noonan
HI. I think after a while you get used to what you need to interact with and
not. It's a bit like some programmes in windows if pressing enter or space
bar doesn't work you have to employ a mouse cursor etc. I see interacting as
kind of the same thing.
Maria and Joe Chapman
I too love interaction. It makes navigating so much more efficient rather than
all that tabbing to death in Windows, as others have said..
The other reason I like interaction is so I can read how, say, a label on a
particular button or other control is written. I just noticed when using
I too like interaction and I think The mac is easier than Windows because as
Nic said, the tabbing all the time. In Fact I prefer safari to internet
explorer.
Kawal.
On 2 Aug 2013, at 07:16 AM, Nicholas Parsons mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com
wrote:
I too love interaction. It makes navigating
Interaction is the best way we have to pin point to any place of the screen.
Exactly, what do you mean in the iTunes U site?
Daniela Rubio T
iPhone: +34662328507
El 31/07/2013, a las 00:21, Ray Foret jr rfore...@att.net escribió:
Good points. I should like, however, to ask something.
I also like interaction actually. It allows one to skip past extra controls
like buttons in tool bars or radio groups. The only time I find interaction to
be inconvenient is when you have to navigate 3 or more levels down into an
object to manipulate it. Calendar on the Mac is a bit that way as
Ah, I was beginning to think I might just have to do that. To speak frankly, I
think it's high time Apple made the Mac OS function more like the Iphone IOS.
One of the things I'd like to see Apple do away with is the concept of
interaction. Yeah, I know that sounds strange, but, once you've
Hello,
I couldn't disagree more. Its not the concept of interacting that's the
problem, its in certain applications one has to do it too often to get to basic
functions. streamlining these applications would do away with most of the
inconveniences interacting might have.
Keep in mind, and
Good points. I should like, however, to ask something. Wouldn't the move to
next and previous container areas be useful in the situation with ITunes you
sight? Either way, I can see interaction being done away with; and, in my
view, this would make a better and more true across the board
I don't believe that interaction could be removed in OS X. You are comparing
two entirely different operating systems and situations. You have to
understand what exactly interacting does and how it works. iOS is a different
and much more streamlined interface compared to the complexity of
I think it is obvious that the interaction deal is one of the most difficult
things that somebody who moves from Windows to Mac needs to deal with. What is
frustrating is that it is not always clear when one needs to interact. Trial
and error and lots of keystrokes and wasted time result. I
Actually, although it takes some getting used to, I rather don't mind
the concept of interaction. It's most helpful in tool bars, where you
can access all of the buttons and other controls confined within that
particular area. I have yet to find a windows-based screen reader that
will allow
Well, John, it's not that I don't understand what interaction does, I was just
offering my own ideas based somewhat on a new experience.
Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac
Hi Ray,
I know what you mean. I wasn't criticizing you at all. My point is that
it's highly unlikely that interacting will be something that will disappear
from VoiceOver.
I don't know if this will apply to you, but in regard to Mary's post, when
working with clients, here are some
Hi John,
I think these are great tips. I’ve also come to realize many people I’ve
worked with interact too much. For example, some interact with the sources
table in iTunes to navigate through their playlists. This isn’t necessary.
With quick nav off, just using the up and down arrows will
Shane,
While this is possibly straying off topic, I wonder if NVDA with its object nav
isn't rather similar to the interaction model with VO.
Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com
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hey,
i think the one thing that really needs work is selecting text in safari. in
other apps selecting text is simple and pain free but when it comes to safari
we hit problems. if you try to get text it will select the wrong words or
select to much info.
i must say how ever that selecting line
Hi Ricardo,
Yes, very true on all points. Interaction is one of the more difficult
concepts for a new Mac user, especially one coming from Windows, but it's also
one I have found is often blown out of proportion as far as the challenge it is
made. It can be annoying at times, but it's not
Hi All,
Just a quick addition to the points that John Panarese made about why the
process of interacting for VoiceOver on the Mac is likely to stay around for a
while longer. Interacting minimizes the load on your system by only
loading/tracking those facilities that VoiceOver needs to use
While I don't blame people here for criticizing the NFB for its initially bad
review of Apple's Voice OVer, (a criticism with which I myself agree), I must
say quite frankly that I do not appreciate continued criticism of the NFB after
they've made a good effort in the December 2009 Braille,
Hi,
I'm not trying to attack the NFB. But to me, I absolutely hate inaccuracy.
At least they let the rebuttal be posted. Hopefully, that has changed quite a
few things. That does not make me like that organization any better, though at
least, they finally, despite it taking half a year, stood
Hi,
Well, I must have missed this one, admittedly.
Quite nice. His attitude is much more positive, and it obviously shows he did
some research this time around. Saying that, finding help for the Mac isn't
that hard, really. It's all in the Mac help if you enter into the search box. I
have
I agree with Ray completely—my sentiments precisely!
I wait it out and try to figure out things for myself. Always I appreciate
it when someone admits to being wrong or to making a mistake; and, go on
from there. Heavens I surely do make a lot of mistakes, admit it, and tell
what work-a-rounds or
let
this rest, it makes them feel better, so what can you do?
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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:47 AM
Subject: what I think
While I don't blame people here for criticizing the NFB for its
. But, bashers will never let
this rest, it makes them feel better, so what can you do?
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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:47 AM
Subject: what I think
While I don't blame people here
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