RE: sbox2 & maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Carlos.Guerreiro
> > Lauri, I can see you've been away for too long and missed > > some of the action ;-) > > That's probably true, but I'm not afraid to raise old issues that may > or may not have been 100% addressed. Worst thing that can happen is > that things are actually not as bad as I thought. I'm just one

A question to status bar plugin in hildon-desktop

2007-07-26 Thread Zhu, Peter J
Hi , Frrom my experience on hildon, gtk_status_icon_*** function and event process for status icon works pretty well on hildon-desktop. I didn't see any special thing what status bar plugin brings. It's just my thinking. Some guys here might have something I didn't know. Please let me know. Thank

Re: sbox2 & maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 7/26/07, Carlos Guerreiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ext Lauri Leukkunen wrote: > > Nokia and Maemo community really need to figure out an easy way for > > developers to use the real hardware and system-mode qemu. Those are the > > only adequate solutions for testing and debugging of software.

WLAN power saving

2007-07-26 Thread Andrew J. Barr
Is there any way to completely disable WLAN power saving on the N800? While for most use cases the aggressive power saving is welcome, for some power-user applications (SSH, synergy) this is unwanted. If there is no way, I would appreciate it if the maintainer or contact or whoever is responsible f

Re: sbox2 & maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 7/26/07, Carlos Guerreiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As long as Nokia works in the current, essentially forked, mode, > > nothing will happen. Nokia needs to look at the way it interacts with > > upstream projects and change. Sure it can be painful, but hiding > > behind a smoke-screen of

Re: Public maemo repository

2007-07-26 Thread Adilson Oliveira
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rodrigo Vivi wrote: > > I don't believe that wait is a good approach. If we believe and > conclude that Ubuntu Mobile will be a good alternative we need to join > and help the Ubuntu community to do that. This kind of contribution > that makes the fr

Re: sbox2 & maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Carlos Guerreiro
> As long as Nokia works in the current, essentially forked, mode, > nothing will happen. Nokia needs to look at the way it interacts with > upstream projects and change. Sure it can be painful, but hiding > behind a smoke-screen of "product program priorities" is just not > helping to solve the r

Re: sbox2 & maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Carlos Guerreiro
> The big problem is that hildon depends on an old, forked version of gtk+ that > nobody in > their right mind wants on their x86 systems. The nokia people at guadec were > unable to > give me an ETA on when that will be fixed :( > There's been a huge amount of progress towards fixing that. N

Re: sbox2 & maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Carlos Guerreiro
ext Lauri Leukkunen wrote: > Hi, > > Scratchbox2 can now be found in debian, unstable and testing carry frequently > updated releases of it. I've been going over a number of packages trying > to test it. I think it's pretty good considering the limited amount > of people using it, and the fact that

Re: Public maemo repository

2007-07-26 Thread Rodrigo Vivi
On 7/23/07, Marius Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "ext Kees Jongenburger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > from what I understand it' maemo that has been assembled from well > > known wood sources (debian/linux/glib/gtk). I just can't imagine that > > you could have been that creative/produ

Re: Webkit based browser on N800

2007-07-26 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oliver Dole schreef: > Hi, > > It's my pleasure to announce that we just released OWB, a webkit-based > browser > We also plan to start a GTK port Another one?!?![1][2] regards, Koen [1] http://trac.webkit.org/projects/webkit/wiki/BuildingGd

Re: hildon dependency on modified gtk+ (was: sbox2 & maemo)

2007-07-26 Thread Xan
On 7/26/07, Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2007, Loïc Minier wrote: > > Would be nice if someone could add a #ifdef GDK_CLOSE_ALL_AVAILABLE > > etc. :) > > Updating my own question: this function is within "#ifdef > MAEMO_CHANGES"; does that mean that if we start pulli

Webkit based browser on N800

2007-07-26 Thread Oliver Dole
Hi, It's my pleasure to announce that we just released OWB, a webkit-based browser which aim is to present an abstraction layer for different parts of the browser architecture, making porting effort smoother and faster. For instance, we have an abstraction for network part (currently curl based) o

Licensing of dummy packages / of the packaging

2007-07-26 Thread Loïc Minier
Hi there, There are some dummy / dependencies-mostly packages in the maemo archive such as haf-marketing-release or maemo-af-desktop-l10n which do not carry much licensing information. The debian/copyright file is along: Copyright (C) 2006 Nokia Corporation and pretty much nothin

Re: hildon dependency on modified gtk+ (was: sbox2 & maemo)

2007-07-26 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007, Loïc Minier wrote: > Would be nice if someone could add a #ifdef GDK_CLOSE_ALL_AVAILABLE > etc. :) Updating my own question: this function is within "#ifdef MAEMO_CHANGES"; does that mean that if we start pulling some maemo changes into Gtk to build hildon (such as the f

Re: sbox2 & maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Marius Vollmer
Riku Voipio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Marius Vollmer wrote: > >> There are two kinds of borders: one kind isolates OSs from each >> other; this could be done with some virtualization tool like xen, >> uml, or maybe chroot. The other kind isolates different >> architectures within the same dis

Re: hildon dependency on modified gtk+ (was: sbox2 & maemo)

2007-07-26 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007, Tommi Komulainen wrote: > Currently the only required patch for hildon stack is one that exports > some GtkFileChooser headers so that hildon-fm can run. Everything else > is available in gtk+ trunk or #ifdef'd out (except for oversight in > hildon-desktop.) Yeah; while talk

Re: sbox2 & maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 7/26/07, Marius Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From my point of view, the host and target distributions should be as > independent as possible. The host could be Debian, or Redhat, or > Nokia's internal Linux, or OSX, or even Windows. There are many, many ways to solve this, starting fro

Re: sbox2 & maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Riku Voipio
Marius Vollmer wrote: > There are two kinds of borders: one kind isolates OSs from each other; > this could be done with some virtualization tool like xen, uml, or > maybe chroot. The other kind isolates different architectures within > the same distribution; this is what SB2 does. > There has

Re: sbox2 & maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext Lauri Leukkunen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At least it should be possible to build a package for both host and > target distros like this: > > cd my_package > dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot > sb2 dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot Hmm, I am still quite fuzzy about what SB2 is all about. Maybe y

hildon dependency on modified gtk+ (was: sbox2 & maemo)

2007-07-26 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 10:04 +0200, ext Koen Kooi wrote: > The big problem is that hildon depends on an old, forked version of gtk+ that > nobody in > their right mind wants on their x86 systems. The nokia people at guadec were > unable to > give me an ETA on when that will be fixed :( Currently

Errors while installing Maemo3.1 on Debian Linux

2007-07-26 Thread David Hazel
I'm trying to install the Maemo 3.1 SDK on Scratchbox under Debian Linux, and I am getting errors at step 3.3 in the installation guide: [sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > fakeroot apt-get install maemo-explicit (lots of stuff that seems to have worked, then:) Setting up maemo-explicit (3.0) ... W: Couldn't st

Re: sbox2 & maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Riku Voipio
Koen Kooi wrote: > The big problem is that hildon depends on an old, forked version of gtk+ that > nobody in > their right mind wants on their x86 systems. The nokia people at guadec were > unable to > give me an ETA on when that will be fixed :( > > Guadec of what year? :P http://packages.ub

Re: sbox2 & maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Lauri Leukkunen
On 7/26/07, Koen Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's > > stupid to maintain a lame x86 port of maemo which nobody wants when all the > > components should be pushed to debian and ubuntu and get those bigger > > communities involved in their development. > > The big problem is that hildon depen

Re: sbox2 & maemo

2007-07-26 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lauri Leukkunen schreef: > Also note that SB2 is totally not interested in doing x86->x86 development, > like what many people are doing today with SB1. People need to wake up, smell > the coffee, integrate with debian proper and get with the program.