Re: Extras QA checklist

2009-10-29 Thread Attila Csipa
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 13:54:33 Quim Gil wrote: > It's difficult to describe beauty but it's easy to recognize it when you > see it. We can fine tune the ugly corner cases as they come. Fine-tune case 1. Allow no packages to put data with imagery or sound files in (non-hidden dirs inside) MyD

Re: The issue of version strings

2009-10-29 Thread Ryan Abel
On Oct 29, 2009, at 5:45 PM, David Greaves wrote: > So you're thinking that a git sha1 is 'suboptimal' ? > > I thought Shopper v.fc42f5c26bbc257cf782679f7b40075e05322647 Don't make me hit you! ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org

Re: The issue of version strings

2009-10-29 Thread David Greaves
Ryan Abel wrote: > One thing I think it might be worth working on is the user- > friendliness of the version strings of packages in Extras. We want the > Application manager to be as friendly and approachable for the average > user as possible and long incomprehensible lines of alphanumerics a

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-29 Thread Dirk Behme
Doug Steel wrote: > Hi, > > Another way to stop the garbage on the console when left idle is to > change the sleep timeout (I made it an hour or 3600 seconds) by: > # echo 3600 > /sys/devices/platform/serial8250.0/sleep_timeout Thanks to Till's kernel, having a stable console now, would somethi

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-29 Thread Dirk Behme
Till Harbaum wrote: > Hi, > > i just disabled the two main CPU Power Management switches > (CPU frequency scaling and CPU idle PM support) and the > uart/console now doesn't have any problems anymore and > also the system now seems to run stable. > > Get it here: > http://www.harbaum.org/till/uIm

Re: My first day as maemo.org distmaster

2009-10-29 Thread Ricardo Salveti de Araujo
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Andrew Flegg wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 14:03, Carsten Valdemar Munk wrote: >> Starting from today, I will be officially starting my work as >> maemo.org distmaster. Nokia has gracefully sponsored this position for >> the community at the request of the mae

Re: How to get a transparent GtkWindow (fremantle)

2009-10-29 Thread Cornelius Hald
Hi Luca, create a window like this and then use cairo to draw on it: GtkWidget *overlay = gtk_window_new(GTK_WINDOW_POPUP); gtk_window_set_decorated(GTK_WINDOW(overlay), FALSE); gtk_widget_set_size_request(overlay, 100 100); gtk_window_set_resizable(GTK_WINDOW(overlay), FALSE); GdkScreen *screen

Re: Disable portrait support for dialog with Hildon

2009-10-29 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 17:31 +0100, Piñeiro wrote: > From: Cornelius Hald > > > the main window of my app supports portrait mode. Now I have a settings > > dialog which does not support portrait mode but it inherits those flags > > from the main window. > > So you'll have the main window in portr

Re: Disable portrait support for dialog with Hildon

2009-10-29 Thread Piñeiro
From: Cornelius Hald > the main window of my app supports portrait mode. Now I have a settings > dialog which does not support portrait mode but it inherits those flags > from the main window. So you'll have the main window in portrait mode, and there is a possibility that a dialog in non-portra

How to get a transparent GtkWindow (fremantle)

2009-10-29 Thread Luca Donaggio
I'm trying to create a transparent, non-decorated popup GtkWindow on top af my app HildonWindow and draw something on its underlying GdkWindow object using cairo. All I was able to obtain so far is a black (or whatever is the background colour of the selected theme) rectangle -ie it's not transpare

Re: Disable portrait support for dialog with Hildon

2009-10-29 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 17:54 +0200, Alberto Mardegan wrote: > Cornelius Hald wrote: > > How can I remove the flags from the dialog window? > > hildon_gtk_window_set_portrait_flags ( > GTK_WINDOW (dialog), 0); Thanks Alberto, but that does not work for me. It's still rotating, even when the dia

Re: Disable portrait support for dialog with Hildon

2009-10-29 Thread Alberto Mardegan
Cornelius Hald wrote: > How can I remove the flags from the dialog window? hildon_gtk_window_set_portrait_flags ( GTK_WINDOW (dialog), 0); Ciao, Alberto -- http://www.mardy.it <- geek in un lingua international! ___ maemo-developers mailing lis

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-29 Thread Doug Steel
Hi, Another way to stop the garbage on the console when left idle is to change the sleep timeout (I made it an hour or 3600 seconds) by: # echo 3600 > /sys/devices/platform/serial8250.0/sleep_timeout I still haven't got any video output on my rev B6 board yet, I'll have another look tomorrow (I

Disable portrait support for dialog with Hildon

2009-10-29 Thread Cornelius Hald
Hi, the main window of my app supports portrait mode. Now I have a settings dialog which does not support portrait mode but it inherits those flags from the main window. How can I remove the flags from the dialog window? I tried the following, but it does not work: hildon_gtk_window_set_portrai

Re: RE: How about upgrading bandwidth for maemo.org?

2009-10-29 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi, 2009/10/29 : > It is quite obvious sitting here when people wake up and when they get home > from work. The worst moments seem to be Europe spending it's nights on > maemo.org at the same time as the US east coast is at work peeking at the > site and west coast waking and logging in :-) y

RE: RE: How about upgrading bandwidth for maemo.org?

2009-10-29 Thread tero.kojo
> -Original Message- > From: maemo-community-boun...@maemo.org > [mailto:maemo-community-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext > Randall Arnold > Sent: 29 October, 2009 16:37 > To: List for community development; a.gra...@gmail.com; > maemo-developers@maemo.org > Subject: Re: RE: How ab

Re: Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-29 Thread Till Harbaum
Hi, i just disabled the two main CPU Power Management switches (CPU frequency scaling and CPU idle PM support) and the uart/console now doesn't have any problems anymore and also the system now seems to run stable. Get it here: http://www.harbaum.org/till/uImage_Maemo5_no_PM.bz2 Till - orig

Re: Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-29 Thread Till Harbaum
Hi, i do get an image on the B7 hardware. There are still major issues. The most significant is probably that the device tends to reset/reboot after a few minutes of being idle. Also it then doesn't reboot but hangs in/after TIs X-loader and before uboot. For me currently a mystery is the sourc

Re: My first day as maemo.org distmaster

2009-10-29 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Oct 28, 2009, at 15:11, Andrew Flegg wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 14:03, Carsten Valdemar Munk > wrote: >> Starting from today, I will be officially starting my work as >> maemo.org distmaster. Nokia has gracefully sponsored this position >> for >> the community at the request of the

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-29 Thread Tuomas Kulve
Tuomas Kulve wrote: > Tuomas Kulve wrote: >> I work with C2 revision and I use Mini-A cable with powered USB hub. The >> Beagle is also powered directly. This setup was the only one I got >> working with the earlier B revisions and I've stick to it. > > With C2 revision it looks like both the 16 a

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-29 Thread Juha Kallioinen
ext Tuomas Kulve wrote: > Tuomas Kulve wrote: >> I work with C2 revision and I use Mini-A cable with powered USB hub. The >> Beagle is also powered directly. This setup was the only one I got >> working with the earlier B revisions and I've stick to it. > > With C2 revision it looks like both the

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-29 Thread Ed Bartosh
2009/10/29 Marius Vollmer : > ext Andrew Flegg writes: > >> I suggest the header is XS-Maemo-Optify, and has the following values: >> >>   none:   no optification should be done, or considered, by the autobuilder. >>   manual: the application author will do optification manually. If the >>        

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-29 Thread Graham Cobb
On Thursday 29 October 2009 11:12:45 Marius Vollmer wrote: > ext Alberto Mardegan writes: > >> b) A control file field makes the most sense to > >> control the build process. > > > > Agreed. > > I think dedicated files in debian/ are better, like the > debian/.install files, etc. There is

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-29 Thread Tuomas Kulve
Tuomas Kulve wrote: > I work with C2 revision and I use Mini-A cable with powered USB hub. The > Beagle is also powered directly. This setup was the only one I got > working with the earlier B revisions and I've stick to it. With C2 revision it looks like both the 16 and 24 bit modes work (at leas

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-29 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Andrew Flegg writes: > I suggest the header is XS-Maemo-Optify, and has the following values: > > none: no optification should be done, or considered, by the autobuilder. > manual: the application author will do optification manually. If the > package contains no entries under

Re: The issue of version strings

2009-10-29 Thread Niels Breet
On Thu, October 29, 2009 09:01, Martin Grimme wrote: > Hi, > > > hmm, what's so bad about a simple date for a version number? Ubuntu does > it, (Open)Solaris does it, and I started doing it, too, because I found it > less confusing than having version numbers such as e.g. 0.96.5. Sane version numb

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-29 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Alberto Mardegan writes: >> b) A control file field makes the most sense to >> control the build process. > > Agreed. I think dedicated files in debian/ are better, like the debian/.install files, etc. Right now, I am just putting the mode into debian/optify, but I can already see ho

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-29 Thread Alberto Mardegan
Andrew Flegg wrote: > Alberto wrote: >> Graham Cobb wrote: >>> So, the consensus decision was that the solution would be that autobuilder >>> should automatically optify by default. >> Sounds wrong to me. > > Can you elaborate? I'd like to be convinced (as I was during the BOF) rather > than just

Re: Maemo5 MicroB: javascript API for fullscreen, location, cursor enable?

2009-10-29 Thread daniel wilms
Hi > > - Switch to fullscreen > > > This is not implemented. But if you need that functionality and have a use-case for it, you could file a bug against that, and then it could be taken into account. > > - Access location information > > > The GeoLocation API is in general available

RE: How about upgrading bandwidth for maemo.org?

2009-10-29 Thread tero.kojo
> -Original Message- > From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org > [mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext > Andrea Grandi > Sent: 29 October, 2009 11:33 > To: maemo-developers@maemo.org; List for community development > Subject: How about upgrading bandwidth for maemo

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-29 Thread Graham Cobb
On Thursday 29 October 2009 08:08:20 Attila Csipa wrote: > On Thursday 29 October 2009 07:07:14 Ed Bartosh wrote: > > Then let's find the way to do it better. > > I believe that was the stance on the problem since day 1 :) > > > What I'm afraid of is that developers wouldn't like the approach to >

Re: Extras-testing Marathon – Next Saturday (Oct 31)

2009-10-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 29.10.2009, 10:20 +0100 schrieb Andrea Borgia: > I did send an email a couple of days ago to bugzi...@maemo.org, still no > reply. Yes, received. Ahem. A couple of days ago in this case means late Tuesday evening, while now is Thursday morning. Yeah, it's on my map for today. ;-

Re: How about upgrading bandwidth for maemo.org?

2009-10-29 Thread Milos Mandaric
У чет, 29. 10 2009. у 10:33 +0100, Andrea Grandi пише: > Hi all, > > maybe the growing interest for N900 made lot of users/developers to > visit maemo.org website more than ever. > For this reason maemo.org is getting so slow in these days... wiki, > planet, garage ecc... all these components are

Re: Extras-testing Marathon – Next Saturday (Oct 31)

2009-10-29 Thread Andre Klapper
Hi Andrea, Am Donnerstag, den 29.10.2009, 10:20 +0100 schrieb Andrea Borgia: > I did send an email a couple of days ago to bugzi...@maemo.org, still no > reply. Is that the correct address? Should I forward it to you directly? Uh, normally such emails do arrive here (and I got four of them in the

Re: How about upgrading bandwidth for maemo.org?

2009-10-29 Thread Yann J.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:33:01 +0100, Andrea Grandi wrote: > Hi all, > > maybe the growing interest for N900 made lot of users/developers to > visit maemo.org website more than ever. > For this reason maemo.org is getting so slow in these days... wiki, > planet, garage ecc... all these components

How about upgrading bandwidth for maemo.org?

2009-10-29 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all, maybe the growing interest for N900 made lot of users/developers to visit maemo.org website more than ever. For this reason maemo.org is getting so slow in these days... wiki, planet, garage ecc... all these components are affected by slowness. It would be great to think about upgrading m

Re: Extras-testing Marathon – Next Saturd ay (Oct 31)

2009-10-29 Thread Andrea Borgia
Ryan Abel ha scritto: > Any developers who would like Bugzilla products before the marathon > starts, please email me the information listed on this page[1]: > http://wiki.maemo.org/Bugs:Adding_Extra_products I did send an email a couple of days ago to bugzi...@maemo.org, still no reply. Is th

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-29 Thread Dirk Behme
Till Harbaum wrote: > Hi, > > - original Nachricht >> Would we have a chance to disable console sleep recompiling the kernel >> (like Till tried?). Should we ask some PM experts for this, e.g. Kevin? > That may actually make sense for the beagleboard as these will likely never > be r

Re: Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-29 Thread Till Harbaum
Hi, - original Nachricht > Would we have a chance to disable console sleep recompiling the kernel > (like Till tried?). Should we ask some PM experts for this, e.g. Kevin? That may actually make sense for the beagleboard as these will likely never be run on battery. I am just runnin

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-29 Thread Ed Bartosh
2009/10/29 Andrew Flegg : > Ed wrote: >> 2009/10/29 Graham Cobb : >> > >> > Nobody likes doing something to the package automatically but, after a long >> > discussion at the BOF, we agreed that the alternatives were even worse [1]. >> > >> Then let's find the way to do it better. >> What I'm afrai

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-29 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Andrew Flegg writes: > A "maemo-buildpackage" was mentioned in the BOF as a potential way of > allowing developers to do what the auto-builder does. How hard would > it be to develop this and get the autobuilder to call maemo- rather > than dpkg-buildpackage? I'll give this a shot. _

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
Alberto wrote: > Graham Cobb wrote: > > So, the consensus decision was that the solution would be that autobuilder > > should automatically optify by default. > > Sounds wrong to me. Can you elaborate? I'd like to be convinced (as I was during the BOF) rather than just whomever expresses the most

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-29 Thread Attila Csipa
On Thursday 29 October 2009 07:07:14 Ed Bartosh wrote: > Then let's find the way to do it better. I believe that was the stance on the problem since day 1 :) > What I'm afraid of is that developers wouldn't like the approach to > change packages implicitly. Herein lies the root of the problem.

Re: The issue of version strings

2009-10-29 Thread Martin Grimme
Hi, hmm, what's so bad about a simple date for a version number? Ubuntu does it, (Open)Solaris does it, and I started doing it, too, because I found it less confusing than having version numbers such as e.g. 0.96.5. Martin 2009/10/29, Ryan Abel : > One thing I think it might be worth working o

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
Ed wrote: > 2009/10/29 Graham Cobb : > > > > Nobody likes doing something to the package automatically but, after a long > > discussion at the BOF, we agreed that the alternatives were even worse [1]. > > > Then let's find the way to do it better. > What I'm afraid of is that developers wouldn't li

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-29 Thread Tuomas Kulve
Dirk Behme wrote: > But what I read from the comments you guys are still able to log in and > use the console? Yeah, I can use it. First character is garbage after some idle time (as Carsten mentioned) and it may need some trying to get it wake up(?) properly to get the serial console working wit

Re: Extras-testing Marathon – Next Saturday (Oct 3 1)

2009-10-29 Thread Martin Grimme
Hi, is there anything else to do besides registering a Bugzilla entry for my product (which I did). Is it necessary to have the Bugzilla product link displayed on the rating page (in which case I have to upload a new .deb I assume). Martin 2009/10/29, Ryan Abel : > On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:03 PM

Re: maemo-optify, autobuilder & /opt

2009-10-29 Thread Alberto Mardegan
Graham Cobb wrote: > So, the consensus decision was that the solution would be that autobuilder > should automatically optify by default. Sounds wrong to me. I agree with Ed, the default should be "manual": so, non optified packages would fail to build, but fixing that would be as easy as addin

Re: Maemo5 on Beagle

2009-10-29 Thread Dirk Behme
tero.k...@nokia.com wrote: >>> - I was not able to log in at minicom console. I got login prompt, but >>> typing resulted in some garbage characters. Typing root/rootme there >>> seemed to make the system hang and after some time the login prompt came >>> again. >> The serial console seems to work