Hi all,
in maemo-mapper I have a lot of code involved in doing transformations from
latitude/longitude to Mercator coordinates (used in google maps, for example),
calculation of distances, etc.
I'm trying to use integer arithmetics as much as possible, but sometimes it's a
bit impractical,
Just in case there weren't enough projects erupting around MeeGo, here's
another.� :D
I think most of us understand that at the root of successful projects
lies good data.� To that notion, Dawn Foster and I have started an effort
to establish metrics definitions and reporting solutions for the Mee
2010/3/9 Niels Breet :
> That said, we can always improve the QA process. Suggestions are welcome.
> It is not our plan to make your life as miserable as possible :)
Issue I see are bugs found that require a few code lines to fix that,
because of the Q&A procedure, are tackled in the next release
Hi,
Voipio Riku (Nokia-D/Helsinki) wrote:
I do not represent the general view of my employer or anyone else, just
myself. But poor quality applications reflect badly on maemo.org
community as well. Do you want to be part of a community which is known
for its low quality standards? Notice that
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 20:30 +, Faheem Pervez wrote:
> Hiya,
>
> You most probably want
> http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/gtk/GtkEntry.html#hildon-gtk-entry-set-input-mode
I've played around with it a bit[1] and it seems partially useful :) I
managed to disable the word completion, whi
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 13:19:33 Simon Pickering wrote:
> > Also, the idea that an application can both be "low quality" and "end
> > user ready" is a bizarre.
>
> I completely agree with Graham Cobb here, Extras should contain apps
> that work no matter how pretty or poorly spelled they are.
To
> > > Also, the idea that an application can both be "low quality" and
"end
> > > user ready" is a bizarre.
> >
> > I completely agree with Graham Cobb here, Extras should contain apps
> > that work no matter how pretty or poorly spelled they are.
>
> To repeat myself, this is not really the is
On 03/09/2010 02:19 PM, ext Simon Pickering wrote:
Also, the idea that an application can both be "low quality" and "end
user ready" is bizarre.
If the general Nokia view is that Extras apps should also look pretty
and have nice design (i.e. so they reflect well on the device), which is
a good
Hallo!
I (still) suggest to formulate a vision statement, that should clearly
describe the purpose of extras. This formulating should be the guiding line
to define further detailed rules and to judge if a new suggested rule is in
compliance to the existing vision. Since there seem to be two
interp
[on the issue of libraries]
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 23:04, Graham Cobb wrote:
> The situation is completely different in a desktop distribution. Ubuntu,
> Debian, etc. include massive numbers of packages -- pretty much anything you
> could need and certainly anything that two apps developed by dif
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 14:26:51 Dave Neary wrote:
> If the burden on the testers & developers continues to grow, we will see
> a return to distribution in the wild, and away from Extras, which would
> be a disaster for Maemo. Bringing all the 3rd party repositories
> together and making Extras th
> Marius Vollmer wrote:
> >To be fair, libraries do not _need_ to be shared, sharing them is an
> >optimization.
>
> True, but this is very inefficient on small-memory devices. It makes a
> huge difference to have, say, 3 applications sharing a library instead
> of having 3 copies in memory inste
Twas brillig at 14:11:29 09.03.2010 UTC+02 when riku.voi...@nokia.com did gyre
and gimble:
RV> Also, the idea that an application can both be "low quality" and "end user
RV> ready" is a bizarre.
M$ Windows?
/me hides
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On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Riku Voipio wrote:
> On 03/09/2010 01:04 AM, ext Attila Csipa wrote:
>
>> I hope Valerio won't mind me taking the initiative here, but I'd like once
>> again to underline the testing-squad is not the Spanish Inquisiton nor do
>> we
>> adhere to a dogma which makes
On 03/09/2010 01:29 PM, ext Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Attila Csipa wrote:
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 11:56:49 Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Niels Breet wrote:
You have to see that Extras should be for applications that are of a high
quality. The Extras repository should
Hi,
Niels Breet wrote:
> You have to see that Extras should be for applications that are of a high
> quality. The Extras repository should not give any problems to people who
> are new to Maemo and have no clue how to work with linux for instance.
I think if extras-testing were easy to optionally
Graham Cobb wrote:
> On Monday 08 March 2010 23:04:36 Attila Csipa wrote:
>> I invite everyone who has not alredy done so
>> to take a good look at
>>
>> http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/QA_Checklist/QA_Improvements
>
> Scary.
Well, trying to solve a bigger problem than the process originally
H,
Graham Cobb wrote:
>> I
>> believe we ALL want better quality software, developers, testers, users,
>> everybody.
>
> Everybody wants it, just like they want world peace. The question is what
> are
> they willing to sacrifice to get it.
I'm with Graham on this. The pre-release burden on
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 09:42:05 Niels Breet wrote:
> You have to see that Extras should be for applications that are of a high
> quality.
Absolutely not. I completely disagree.
Extras is the home for the wonderful creativity of the Maemo community. It is
for all apps: the good, the bad, t
>
> No. The testing squad and testers in general also leave (I like to believe
> more often valuable than not) comments and suggestions. You will see plenty
> of 'X dialogue not finger friendly', 'use a hildon file dialogue', 'it is
> very slow while loading data', 'a WiFi-only refresh option would
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Attila Csipa wrote:
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 11:56:49 Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Niels Breet wrote:
You have to see that Extras should be for applications that are of a high
quality. The Extras repository should not give any problems to people who
are new to Ma
On Tue, March 9, 2010 11:19, Riku Voipio wrote:
> On 03/09/2010 01:04 AM, ext Attila Csipa wrote:
>
>> I hope Valerio won't mind me taking the initiative here, but I'd like
>> once again to underline the testing-squad is not the Spanish Inquisiton
>> nor do we adhere to a dogma which makes testing
> >> Also, the idea that an application can both be "low
> >> quality" and "end user ready" is bizarre.
>
> > If the general Nokia view is that Extras apps should also
> > look pretty
> > and have nice design (i.e. so they reflect well on the
> > device), which is
> > a good goal for all apps
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 11:56:49 Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Niels Breet wrote:
> > You have to see that Extras should be for applications that are of a high
> > quality. The Extras repository should not give any problems to people who
> > are new to Maemo and have no clue how to wor
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 10:02:19 you wrote:
> In the current system after the dev promotes the package to testing, all he
> can do is to hope that everything is OK. If it's not, he has to promote new
> package and everything starts from zero again. I don't think this good
> enough for anyone invol
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Niels Breet wrote:
You have to see that Extras should be for applications that are of a high
quality. The Extras repository should not give any problems to people who
are new to Maemo and have no clue how to work with linux for instance.
Here's the problem, there seems to b
Hello!
> myself. But poor quality applications reflect badly on maemo.org
> community as well. Do you want to be part of a community which is known
Right. But for this we have rating and another repository does not really
help solving this. If this results in extras containing 100 5 star rated
ap
> Also, the idea that an application can both be "low quality" and "end
> user ready" is a bizarre.
I completely agree with Graham Cobb here, Extras should contain apps
that work no matter how pretty or poorly spelled they are.
If the general Nokia view is that Extras apps should also look prett
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Attila Csipa wrote:
> view has changed dramatically. Turns out Extras-devel applications regularly
> have hundreds of 'silent' users willing to try out things, regardless of
> risk. Appwatch itself, even with it's huge Qt dependencies and occasional
Part of the re
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Niels Breet wrote:
> You have to see that Extras should be for applications that are of a high
> quality. The Extras repository should not give any problems to people who
> are new to Maemo and have no clue how to work with linux for instance.
>
> Developers who wan
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 13:01:32 Edward Page wrote:
> Will this be like government regulations where they increase year to
> year and we have to jump through more hoops all the time just to
> continue to have the "honor" of being in Extras?
The solution to this is to work on two fronts - not just
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 11:12:36 Attila Csipa wrote:
> There is nothing preventing (well, apart from autobuilder issues) people
> putting things into Extras-devel. It *is* a valid place for software
No it isn't. It is a pool of packages to allow cross-developer testing. It
is where you put the
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 08:27:34 Tim Teulings wrote:
> I think initialy (and hopefully still) extras was not about good or bad
> software, its was about software that does not break your device (and
> does what it told). That is what QA must try to target. Comments about
> usability, spelling mist
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 09:22:49 Alberto Mardegan wrote:
> I agree with Graham: I'd like the quarantine process to be only about
> critical problems, such as app not being optified, making the device
> unstable or not meeting some basic formal criteria (such as bugtracker
> link).
It is that way
On Tue, March 9, 2010 12:12, Attila Csipa wrote:
> On Tuesday 09 March 2010 11:56:49 Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Niels Breet wrote:
>>
>>> You have to see that Extras should be for applications that are of a
>>> high quality. The Extras repository should not give any problems to
>>
On 03/09/2010 01:04 AM, ext Attila Csipa wrote:
I hope Valerio won't mind me taking the initiative here, but I'd like once
again to underline the testing-squad is not the Spanish Inquisiton nor do we
adhere to a dogma which makes testing procedures unchangeable (and we
certainly don't want to cre
Dnia poniedziałek, 8 marca 2010 o 16:21:13 Benoît HERVIER napisał(a):
> - I'm not agree with some QA rules, like the fact that you should
> point as bug tracker the enter_new.php page so you do not let user
> made a search before or display the current know bug, so it ll result
> in duplicate bugs
On Tue, March 9, 2010 10:02, Sascha Mäkelä wrote:
> I would like to see more interaction between the dev and the Testing
> Squad.
> In the current system after the dev promotes the package to testing, all
> he can do is to hope that everything is OK. If it's not, he has to promote
> new package a
On Tue, March 9, 2010 09:22, Alberto Mardegan wrote:
> Attila Csipa wrote:
>
>> want better quality software, developers, testers, users, everybody.
>> Let's
>> make Extras-testing a place where we help applications get to Extras by
>> improving them, not just kick them back to extras-devel, scream
ext Victor Manuel Jáquez Leal writes:
> 2010/3/8 Marius Vollmer :
>> Then you can activate the red-pill mode and unset the "Ignore packages
>> from wrong domain" setting.
>
> Red pill mode user interface flow was removed from HAM.
Ahh, yes, sorry.
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I would like to see more interaction between the dev and the Testing Squad.
In the current system after the dev promotes the package to testing, all he
can do is to hope that everything is OK. If it's not, he has to promote new
package and everything starts from zero again. I don't think this good
2010/3/8 Marius Vollmer :
> Then you can activate the red-pill mode and unset the "Ignore packages
> from wrong domain" setting.
Red pill mode user interface flow was removed from HAM. Though, still
can be enable through the file ~/.osso/hildon-application-manager
vmjl
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2010/3/8 Aldon Hynes :
> Graham, (et al.)
>
> I appreciate your concern about shared resources, but it seems to me that
> you are overstating the problem.
Not at all. If you look here: http://www.gronmayer.com/it/ you'll find
a proof of what people are refering to when they mention the situation
Attila Csipa wrote:
want better quality software, developers, testers, users, everybody. Let's
make Extras-testing a place where we help applications get to Extras by
improving them, not just kick them back to extras-devel, screaming. Thank you.
I agree with Graham: I'd like the quarantine pro
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