R: Maemo website - Package promotion System BUG

2010-07-22 Thread Luigi Cotignano
Hi Andre, thanks for your prompt reply. I have just added that issue to the bugs tracking system. Regards, Luigi -Messaggio originale- Da: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] Per conto di Andre Klapper Inviato: giovedì 22 luglio 2010 22.47 A: m

Re: Maemo website - Package promotion System BUG

2010-07-22 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 22.07.2010, 22:35 +0200 schrieb Luigi Cotignano: > Hi Niels, > I want to report a bug For future reference, the bugtracker is at bugs.maemo.org, specifically https://bugs.maemo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=maemo.org%20Website&component=Promoter andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org b

Maemo website - Package promotion System BUG

2010-07-22 Thread Luigi Cotignano
Hi Niels, I want to report a bug that affects the current package promotion system on Maemo website. Brief bug description: - Today I have received from the system the automatic generated e-mail telling that my package under "extras-devel" repository was u

RE: How to to manually package Qt Mobility?

2010-07-22 Thread Graham Cobb
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 19:24:03 Felipe Crochik wrote: > I have compiled the “contacts” module and it is quite simple using > scratchbox. I distribute with my application a “custom” contacts backend (I > don’t distribute the contacts module just the backend) I don't know the licence on the code

Re: Maemo QA process

2010-07-22 Thread Benoît HERVIER
Hi, Personnaly i didn't care anymore about extras. If people need to use my apps i just ask them to use my repository. No QA Hassle ... :) And if someone want to package it to maemo extras repo he can ... but in three month this didn't happen. Best regards, 2010/7/21 Roman Morawek : > Hello, >

RE: Maemo QA process

2010-07-22 Thread Niels Breet
> I assume there is a big "part" of the solution that depends on the "data > feeds" being available on the server. We have an OCS api for packages. In this api you can list from any repository in the packages interface. Appdownloader can easily be adapted to use different urls when in testing mod

RE: Maemo QA process

2010-07-22 Thread Felipe Crochik
I assume there is a big "part" of the solution that depends on the "data feeds" being available on the server. Does anybody know if the "server" can provide the same feeds for the extras-testing (and optionally devel) that it does for extras? If yes, the application probably won't require many cha

Re: Extras QA checklist

2010-07-22 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Kamen Bundev wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Andrew Flegg >> * MUST NOT waste battery life when in background or in "normal" use. > > What about applications that can't control what they are showing > and such that shouldn't be suspended when in background? They don't belong t

Re: Maemo QA process

2010-07-22 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Thomas Perl wrote: > Wouldn't this slow down the whole process even more? Instead of > getting one vote right away, you have to wait for the "return vote" to > be completed, and only then the vote gets counted. A "download People could still give unconditinal vot

Re: Maemo QA process

2010-07-22 Thread Attila Csipa
On Thursday 22 July 2010 00:19:20 Felipe Crochik wrote: > I added a message to the "download assistant" thread but never received a > reply. http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=717824&postcount=17 > > Maybe someone knows the maintainer or what is behind the scenes and can > find out if it is a via

Re: Maemo QA process

2010-07-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all, do you think that the possibility to vote (UP/DOWN) applications and send feedback directly from N900 could help the process? It's just an idea eh... Another feature I'd like to see on Application Manager is the possibility to know if an application I see comes from maemo-extras, extras-t

Re: Maemo QA process

2010-07-22 Thread Thomas Perl
2010/7/22 Ville M. Vainio : > How about a system where developers could convince other developers to > test drive their application by voting on theirs? I.e. being able to > give a conditional vote that is "realized" only after the receiver > votes up/down on your application? Wouldn't this slow d

Re: Maemo QA process

2010-07-22 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Thomas Perl wrote: > If there are enough users / testers, releasing every month is no > problem. I have the same situation with my app (a new release nearly > every month), and with enough testers, I usually get enough votes in Well, using, say, gPodder (a "bests

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Sascha Mäkelä
> > Just as a side-note - can we work on making at least the Ovi QA criteria > public so that we do not get minefield issues like this one ? I understand > Maemo5 is fairly new and small in the Ovi story, but it would greatly help > if > we could see the criteria - in the worst case, adapt to it wi

Re: Maemo QA process

2010-07-22 Thread Thomas Perl
Servus! 2010/7/21 Roman Morawek : > [...] Actually, I think in the early lifetime of a SW project there > will probably be a release every few months, which could permanently > block the tool's promotion to extras. If there are enough users / testers, releasing every month is no problem. I have t

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Attila Csipa
On Thursday 22 July 2010 10:40:51 Ville M. Vainio wrote: > As it appears, rabbit hole goes deeper than initially expected, so > don't hold your breath on getting the issue fixed in reasonable > timeframe :-/. Just as a side-note - can we work on making at least the Ovi QA criteria public so that

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote: > Ville, if you escalate this, the right thing IMO would be to fix the > Application Manager, make a new Maemo 5 release with it, and somehow > 'force' people to update to it when they install a package from Ovi > Store that needs dependenci

Re: Maemo QA process

2010-07-22 Thread Attila Csipa
On Thursday 22 July 2010 02:35:47 Ian Stirling wrote: > > Note that since not long ago we also have super-testers, people with > > proven track records, it's enough to get three of their votes if your > > package is stuck and you're good to go. > > Where is the super-testers list? > I've tested a f

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Yves-Alexis Perez writes: >> If you use apt-get unmodified, you need to provide permanent download >> URLs for the packages, and my understanding is that the Ovi Store can >> not provide those _and_ control their accesses. They protect against >> unauthorized downloads by using random, tempo

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Sivan Greenberg writes: > Hi Marius, > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Marius Vollmer > wrote: >> >> For Harmattan, we are putting a "Ovi Store Adaptor" into place which >> makes the Ovi Store look like a regular repository.  The apt-cache >> search will find your paid packages and you c

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 22/07/2010 10:59, Marius Vollmer wrote: > ext Yves-Alexis Perez writes: (no need to CC: me, I'm subcribed) >> On 22/07/2010 10:10, Marius Vollmer wrote: >>> The Application Manager has been 'optimized' for repositories, and the >>> code for dealing with Debian package files has been neglected.

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Sivan Greenberg
Hi Marius, On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote: > > For Harmattan, we are putting a "Ovi Store Adaptor" into place which > makes the Ovi Store look like a regular repository.  The apt-cache > search will find your paid packages and you can update them with apt-get > upgrade, et

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Yves-Alexis Perez writes: > On 22/07/2010 10:10, Marius Vollmer wrote: >> The Application Manager has been 'optimized' for repositories, and the >> code for dealing with Debian package files has been neglected. Now with >> the Ovi Store using standalone Debian packages, we should finally fix

Re: keys when long pressed should give the blue symbol/number

2010-07-22 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Donnerstag, den 22.07.2010, 16:30 +0800 schrieb Richard Young: > >From https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5421 I know that long > press key gives blue character, but I can only get blue one when run > Gtk+/Hildon based applications, my own Qt based apps and manually > installed Qt based apps

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Sascha Mäkelä
Well, I think I'll just do my original version again which basically only detects if the connection exist or not. If there is no connection it will just prompt the user to manually connect. After all, my only needs the internet connection for data updates that are not even necessary for the app to

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Sascha Mäkelä writes: > 1. Detectect if the device is Offline and give appropriate warning. > 2. Detect if the device is connected and if not establish the connection. > 3. If the connection is set to manual, the app needs to give the necessary >prompt. > 4. If the connection is set to au

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Sascha Mäkelä wrote: > So according your opinion, should I wait for this issue to be resolved at > Nokia's end or should I try to make changes to my app? The one suggestion > I've been given several times is to statically include Qt Mobility, but I'm > not so

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 22/07/2010 10:24, Daniil Ivanov wrote: > Hi Yves-Alexis! (please don't CC: me, I'm subscribed) > >The point is security as these are paid applications. > This is not “security” anyway. And I fail to see how this can help paid applications, but as we don't really have details on Ovi store

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Sascha Mäkelä writes: > So according your opinion, should I wait for this issue to be resolved at > Nokia's end or should I try to make changes to my app? Don't wait for us, try to work around the problem on your side. > The one suggestion I've been given several times is to statically > in

keys when long pressed should give the blue symbol/number

2010-07-22 Thread Richard Young
Hi, >From https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5421 I know that long press key gives blue character, but I can only get blue one when run Gtk+/Hildon based applications, my own Qt based apps and manually installed Qt based apps are all failed to get blue character, I can just get white character

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Daniil Ivanov
Hi Yves-Alexis! The point is security as these are paid applications. Thanks, Daniil. On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On 22/07/2010 10:10, Marius Vollmer wrote: >> The Application Manager has been 'optimized' for repositories, and the >> code for dealing with Deb

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 22/07/2010 10:10, Marius Vollmer wrote: > The Application Manager has been 'optimized' for repositories, and the > code for dealing with Debian package files has been neglected. Now with > the Ovi Store using standalone Debian packages, we should finally fix > that. Again, wouldn't it be easie

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext Ville M. Vainio" writes: > That comment doesn't apply since applications are downloaded from repository, > triggered by .install file (unless there is a terrible misunderstanding > somewhere). This is true for gratis packages, but paid packages are downloaded as Debian packages, not as .ins

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Sascha Mäkelä
Hi Marius, So according your opinion, should I wait for this issue to be resolved at Nokia's end or should I try to make changes to my app? The one suggestion I've been given several times is to statically include Qt Mobility, but I'm not so sure if that is a great idea and even if it was, I don't

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Sascha Mäkelä
Hi Ville, Well this is indeed weird. I'm beginning to think that all the Memo guys of Ovi Store are in holidays and the ones left have no idea how to publish my app for Maemo. The funny thing is that in our Ovi Store publishing site the status of my app is Passed and has been for about a week now.

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Marius Vollmer
"ext Ville M. Vainio" writes: > Well, that's certainly not the general understanding (inside Nokia) of how it > should work. Do you care to elaborate so that we can escalate the issue (with > the understanding that it's holiday period...)? Ville, if you escalate this, the right thing IMO would b

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Ville M. Vainio
Yes, my understanding is indeed that repository is used for paid applications (weird as it sounds). - Original message - > Hi Ville, > > I did that and this is the response I got: > > In fact, the issue is not we cannot install the missing libraries on our > own; it is that we cannot as

Re: How to resolve network connectivity without using Qt Mobility in Qt?

2010-07-22 Thread Ville M. Vainio
That comment doesn't apply since applications are downloaded from repository, triggered by .install file (unless there is a terrible misunderstanding somewhere). Daniil, if you are not on holiday please priorize clarifying this issue with ovi guys. - Original message - > Hi Ville! >