Re: R: R: promotion to extras

2011-12-12 Thread Michael Cronenworth
emme...@gmail.com wrote: So, in my opinion, if Supertester have given the green light to these applications, I think it's fair that they be promoted in extras. IMHO, the person doing the promoting should become the maintainer. If not that person, then certainly one of the users of the package

Re: calls to gasyncqueue_new fail

2011-12-04 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 12/04/2011 02:41 AM, Kaj-Michael Lang wrote: A recent glib (2.32) release changed how threads are handled, there is no need to initialize threads anymore. But if you are using an old glib then threads needs to still be initialized. Not maemo specific. I'm not using glib 2.32 on any desktop m

Re: calls to gasyncqueue_new fail

2011-12-03 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 11/25/2011 01:50 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Is there something Maemo-specific that I need to do to allow async queues? Apparently, yes. In order to use GAsyncQueue objects you must call g_threads_init() and link against gthread-2.0. On desktop distros gthread is included in the

calls to gasyncqueue_new fail

2011-11-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
I'm trying to get a GTK app I wrote for a regular desktop to run on the N900. When I compile the app in the SDK, everything goes fine. When I attempt to run the app on the phone it aborts after attempting to call g_async_queue_new(). The call is done 5 lines in to the program and it works nor

Re: announcing libconnui-dev-0.1 and operator-name-cbs-widget-0.1

2011-10-28 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jonathan Wilson wrote: If anyone has any feedback on my code (or if you have found bugs in it) please let me know so I can make my code better :) If anyone starts playing with or using libconnui-dev, I would also be interested to know. While I find your work very interesting I keep coming back

Re: {CORRECTIONS] Re: Where do we go now?

2011-03-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Randall Arnold on 03/07/2011 11:49 AM wrote: Let's keep the conversations rooted in facts, please. There's enough noise already. Someone needs to do fire control with the media then. I do not keep up with every posting @ nokia.com or every Nokia employee's blog. I realize this has gone off

Re: Where do we go now?

2011-03-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Felipe Crochik on 03/07/2011 11:30 AM wrote: How did they back out of Qt today? http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/03/07/1337211/Nokia-Sells-Qt ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-

Where do we go now?

2011-03-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Nokia has backed out of MeeGo and today they have backed out of QT. This leaves the Maemo distribution solely in the hands of the community. I would still like to contribute to Maemo (or MeeGo if a build is released), but I have some concerns. Will Maemo.org and its infrastructure be online fo

Re: adaptation of Extras QA hurdles

2011-01-25 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Felipe Crochik wrote: A new version of an existing application should have a lower barrier to promotion than a new application. Yes. Instead of 10 there should only be 1 required vote. That one vote should not be the developer. No more than 3 votes thought. We could put this into pract

Re: PR1.3 broke libclutter-1.4

2010-10-27 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Aapo Rantalainen wrote: So I claim: "/usr/lib/libGLESv2.so"-file on PR1.3 has a bug. My (only) proves so far are: *It is working differently than same file on PR1.2 *It breaks vanilla libclutter-1.4. I would file a bug at http://bugs.maemo.org with all of what you have done. Sounds like a leg

Re: Porting Maemo to MeeGo

2010-10-21 Thread Michael Cronenworth
ds wrote: is there a guide, howto or something simelar on porting Maemo Apps (e.g. gtk based) to MeeGo. I could not find on MeeGo and Maemo site:-( AFAIK GTK is still around in MeeGo and will still be supported. I know Nokia wants everyone to use Qt, but not everyone wants to use Qt.

Re: Maemo -> MeeGo migration (was Re: maemo.org team meeting Tuesday the 14th?)

2010-09-08 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Andrew Flegg wrote: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-September/005525.html This is very sad. I see nothing has changed since I left the MeeGo lists. Having static packages is so 2000! A MeeGo foundation should be to have all packages in upstream MeeGo repositories instead of

Re: Why should I write apps for Maemo?

2010-05-12 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Eero Tamminen wrote: Hi, (standard disclaimer: below are my personal opinions) Thanks for taking the time to reply. Who/where is the best place to contact in regards to my Ovi Store questions? Today, I received a notice that the Ovi Store is "new and improved" but the Maemo section is still

Re: Why should I write apps for Maemo?

2010-05-06 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Daniil Ivanov on 05/06/2010 01:39 AM wrote: By commercial solution do you mean DRM? Simply the ability to sell an application for profit. I'm a stanch anti-DRM supporter. Thanks, Michael ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org

Why should I write apps for Maemo?

2010-05-05 Thread Michael Cronenworth
The continued delay of PR 1.2 has caused me to pose this question. Without customized packaging, I cannot reliably publish applications to the global maemo.org repositories at this time. Also having APIs in flux without knowing when the new version is coming out makes me even less interested.

Re: Deleting Project PyGTKEditor from Garage

2010-03-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Benoît HERVIER on 03/24/2010 12:08 PM wrote: Yes there is discussions, talk, brainstorm ... and other discussions, emails on the mailing list but ZERO actions taken. This was my first experience in an true OSS community ... but probably the last. This is not a true OSS community. If you want th

Re: Deleting Project PyGTKEditor from Garage

2010-03-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Benoît HERVIER wrote: Once the package will be removed from extras, extras-testing, and extras-devel you will be able to install the new version from my own repository. Why are you attempting to divide the Maemo community? ___ maemo-developers mailing

Re: Maemo 5 PR1.2 and Extras

2010-02-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Venomrush wrote: You do not need to update any apps in Legacy. Apps in Legacy remains the same and does not get any further development work. That's what Niels is proposing, unless I am mistaken. fremantle = Legacy fremantle-1.2 = The new "Extras" __

Re: Maemo 5 PR1.2 and Extras

2010-02-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Dave Neary on 02/24/2010 10:01 AM wrote: 1. New uploads get compiled with the new SDK, and get downloaded onto phones with the old OS, where they don't work. How? The only way that could happen is if a power-user downloaded the file manually and attempted to use dpkg manually. This should be f

Re: Maemo 5 PR1.2 and Extras

2010-02-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Venomrush wrote: Why not have 2 repos for Extras 1 called Extras Legacy (aka current Extras) 1 called Extras (aka fremantle-1.2 Extras) The only inconvenience I can think of is users have an addtional repo on the list, shouldn't do any harm! They will fragment the Maemo 5 community unless th

Re: Maemo 5 PR1.2 and Extras

2010-02-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Thomas Tanner wrote: Forced upgrades of some components for installation of a new package is standard practice for all package management systems (keyword version dependencies). I think the main problem is that the mp-fremantle-pr packages hardcodes the exact version of all PR packages instead of

Re: Maemo 5 PR1.2 and Extras

2010-02-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Graham Cobb wrote: I can't say I like this. My personal view is that there will be a lot of people running earlier software for quite a long time. How long do Nokia believe it will be before 80% of new devices being sold in retail stores have PR1.2 pre-installed? Can we keep track of stats sho

Re: hildonpickerdialog done button

2010-02-22 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Alberto Garcia wrote: If you are using a HildonPickerDialog directly you can use the standard GtkDialog::response signal. http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/gtk/GtkDialog.html#GtkDialog-response I see that it's not clear in the HildonPickerDialog doc, so I'll update it now. Ah, cool. Tha

hildonpickerdialog done button

2010-02-19 Thread Michael Cronenworth
How does one attach to the "Done" button when using two HildonTouchSelector columns? When I press the button nothing happens. I'm using single selection mode. I have two columns of regular text (numbers). I select two numbers and press "Done" but no action occurs and I do not see any signal to

RPM vs. Deb (was Re: MeeGo)

2010-02-15 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Thomas Tanner wrote: I don't want a platform that is merely a Qt runtime enviroment (Symbian would be sufficient) but one which also offers me easy access to the complete GNU/Linux software world. Debian based distributions have offered working ARM ports for years but Fedora does not. Porting Mob

Re: MeeGo

2010-02-15 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jeremiah Foster wrote: Intel and Nokia collaboration:http://meego.com/ I guess I'll be the first to ask then: N900 support upgrade path planned? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/ma

Re: MeeGo

2010-02-15 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Tor wrote: This is very bad news IMO. I work a lot with both formats and I know which one is less painful. Completely subjective. I work with both, and I can tell you the opposite. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://l

Re: Is the N900 running X-Windows?! (was: Maemo 5 and hw accelerated X.Org?)

2010-02-10 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Christopher Intemann wrote: I just came across this thread and I'm some kind of confused... I the N900 running true X-Windows, meaning that it was possible to ssh -XC in some Linux box and start X-applications without any extensions or additional software necessary? ps | grep Xorg :) _

Re: Terminal app in scratchbox?

2010-02-06 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 02/06/2010 05:31 PM, ma...@bitblit.net wrote: I get an error: fakeroot apt-get install ... ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

Re: Maintenance of ported apps

2010-02-01 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Bernd Stramm wrote: On the other hand, there is that expectation that if person X provides a package (through porting or through a fresh new package), then person X has to provide free updates for the next 100 years. Not very respectful either. This is where co-maintainers fit in. Fedora and De

Re: Tracker audio duration

2010-01-29 Thread Michael Cronenworth
daniel wilms on 01/29/2010 07:54 AM wrote: I just went briefly through the code, but might it be that you forgot to add something like: { "Duration", "Audio:Duration", FALSE } in the tags? Just as an idea I had when I went over it. Hm, no, but that gave me a clue. (A "duh, I'm stupid" moment)

Tracker audio duration

2010-01-28 Thread Michael Cronenworth
I have added duration support for FLAC file types, but the Media Player does not display a duration until the song is selected for play. The tracker-extractor-flac plugin is attempting to store the number of seconds into "Audio.Duration" but this isn't displaying. Am I doing something wrong? I

Re: Lists and mail down for a while very soon now

2010-01-27 Thread Michael Cronenworth
tero.k...@nokia.com wrote: And the lists should be back again. Thanks for the heads-up. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

Re: Reverting autobuilder to fremantle sdk maemo 5 update 1

2010-01-19 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 01/19/2010 04:15 PM, Jeff Moe wrote: Where are these discussions taking place? Here.[1] [1] http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2010-January/023781.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists

Re: Backwards compatibility broken PR1.1 SDK

2010-01-19 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Graham Cobb on 01/19/2010 05:08 AM wrote: We have to live with that and try to come up with a solution that is best for the users. In my view, that means having as many apps as possible available to people who are still running the initial release. This should be noted as a failure of Nokia to

Re: Backwards compatibility broken PR1.1 SDK

2010-01-18 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Graham Cobb on 01/18/2010 04:42 PM wrote: I do think there may be an option 1.5: Turning Linux into Windows shouldn't be a project goal of Maemo. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/mae

Re: Backwards compatibility broken PR1.1 SDK

2010-01-18 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Niels Breet on 01/18/2010 03:08 PM wrote: Can we, like with the opt problem, come to a solution with community power[tm]? An SONAME change during a distribution version's lifetime is quite nasty. Most, if not all, distributions frown upon such a thing. I'm surprised that this was done, given

Re: How to access geotag information?

2010-01-08 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Kimmo Hämäläinen on 01/08/2010 04:58 AM wrote: Yes, tracker should do it. Fortunately, tracker can be extended to index all kind of information. CC'ing Ivan "Mr. Tracker" Frade here... GPS data is stored in tracker for images only. Till wants GPS data for *all* file types. ___

Re: How to access geotag information?

2010-01-08 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Cornelius Hald on 01/08/2010 05:02 AM wrote: Anyways, it´s just a guess. That's for images only. Till wants it for *all* file types. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

Re: How to access geotag information?

2010-01-08 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Till Harbaum / Lists on 01/07/2010 10:15 AM wrote: - We'll have to scan all files in every geotag aware app If you want to create some sort of standard database for holding GPS metadata for any file type then you have to write it. - This consumes much CPU power Reading a file is hardly CPU i

Re: How to access geotag information?

2010-01-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Till Harbaum on 01/07/2010 06:30 AM wrote: How do i access geotags? With libexif. GPS coordinates are in the EXIF data. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers

Re: Continued outages and lame updates

2010-01-04 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jeff Moe wrote: > Right now there are occasional "tweets" to qaiku, but this falls far short. There's a maemo-announce that's a ghost town. Every other modern distro uses such an announce list to let users know of outages or other big events. Why can't Nokia? Your other points are valid, none-t

Re: Fw: Re: gtk clutter tearing

2009-12-30 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Eero Tamminen on 12/30/2009 04:09 AM wrote: > Is there some way that this will help me - the original poster? Unfortunately, no. I have not, yet, investigated too far into the compositor Nokia is using. My app references were to compiz, the compositor found on most Linux desktop distributions.

Re: gtk clutter tearing

2009-12-30 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Eero Tamminen on 12/30/2009 04:09 AM wrote: > Incorrect. I guess there's some illegal black magic happening in-between compiz and apps regardless of UI toolkit libraries. Apps such as dasher that present rectangles and text at fast speeds do not present any tearing when I have the *compositor*

Re: gtk clutter tearing

2009-12-29 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Eero Tamminen on 12/29/2009 09:17 AM wrote: > because Gtk doesn't have any support for Vsync. Gtk doesn't need to support Vsync. Qt won't magically fix this problem either. Only the compositor needs to support Vsync. Once it does then *all* 2D operations will be tear-free. Gtk, Qt, terminal-bas

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jeff Moe on 12/29/2009 08:20 AM wrote: > Symlinks take space on disk, too. I'm not sure if they take a whole block or > a part of it but there is likely a limit where a links costs more space than > the data itself. Is this where the 2K come from? An inode on the default file system is only 256 by

Re: New optification issues in extras-testing

2009-12-29 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jeff Moe on 12/29/2009 08:20 AM wrote: > I don't understand why maemo-optify doesn't just move*everything* to /opt, > including files under 2k etc. What advantage does it give to not have them in > /opt? For instance, I ran into this problem with asterisk where it had many > small sound files whic

Re: Package Building HOWTO

2009-12-22 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jeff Moe wrote: > I have written up a Package Building HOWTO. > > You can find it here: > http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba#Package_Building_HOWTO > Jeff, Would it be beneficial to add or update the necessary pages in the standard wiki namespace instead of adding on to your already long user pag

Re: Maemo 5 SDK install on non-Debian systems

2009-12-16 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 12/16/2009 11:21 PM, Sri wrote: > Hi > Michael. > I am trying to install scratchbox &maemo SDK using the scripts > provided from maemo but its not getting continued as my machine is > x86_64 and script is asking for i386 base. > do you have any procedure to configure scratchbox & maemo sdk

Re: powertop missing from USA firmware

2009-12-16 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 12/16/2009 10:51 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > I'm on the N900 USA firmware. powertop is not on the device anywhere. > find / -name 'powertop' does not return any results. I notice other > users of the Global version of the firmware have it. I would make a >

powertop missing from USA firmware

2009-12-16 Thread Michael Cronenworth
I'm on the N900 USA firmware. powertop is not on the device anywhere. find / -name 'powertop' does not return any results. I notice other users of the Global version of the firmware have it. I would make a package for Extras, but the autobuilder prevents it since it already exists in it's known

Re: Maemo 5 SDK install on non-Debian systems

2009-12-16 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Max Barnes on 12/16/2009 11:32 AM wrote: > Has anybody found instructions on how to install the Maemo 5 SDK on a > non-Debian system? > The host distribution does not matter. The packages are not installed into the host machine, but into the /scratchbox chroot'd environment. I am using Fedora 1

Autobuilder and compiling against MCE

2009-12-15 Thread Michael Cronenworth
I'm attempting to compile an app with some MCE defines for portrait mode on the fremantle autobuilder. It seems that the mce-dev package is not installed on the autobuilder[1][2]. Is there an alternative to MCE that I am not aware of? All of the Fremantle examples for portrait mode show includ