[Fwd: Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770]

2006-03-23 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, What I'm trying to say is we should have a Wiki section with everything easily available together. I'll be on it soon. Best Regards, Philippe Original Message Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:57:27

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-23 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, Do you have a libgcj/libgij package for maemo? Thanks, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Koen Kooi wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-21 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, Is anyone working on this currently? I might seriously look into it very soon. Thanks, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tapani Pälli wrote: ext Philip

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 (SDK)

2006-03-10 Thread Fabrice Di Meglio
Hi Clemens, OK, thx. Could you tell us where did you find the corresponding packages for JamVM and Classpath as the ones I have found does not install correctly ? Fabrice Di Meglio On Mar 9, 2006, at 11:09 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote: Please explain: "(Free)Swing runs nice on 770." Wel

Fwd: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 (SDK)

2006-03-09 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> Please explain: > "(Free)Swing runs nice on 770." Well when I tried to run JamVM+Classpath on my 770 Swing examples ran fine except the issues I explained. lg Clemens ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailm

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 (SDK)

2006-03-09 Thread Fabrice DI MEGLIO
Please explain: "(Free)Swing runs nice on 770." Fabrice Di Meglio Clemens Eisserer wrote: I also think, that a Java J2ME Personal Profile implementation (which includes AWT) and addtional eSWT would be the best solution for the Nokia 770. If possible the JVM should use the Jazelle extension

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 (SDK)

2006-03-09 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> I also think, that a Java J2ME Personal Profile implementation (which includes > AWT) and addtional eSWT would be the best solution for the Nokia 770. If > possible the JVM should use the Jazelle extension of the ARM CPU in the Nokia > 770. Swing isn't necessary, and in my opinion not really a go

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 (SDK)

2006-03-09 Thread Bernd Lachner
> For me, SWT provides a very nice integration to the host UI. > As it uses the host UI widgets, the overhead is minimal compare to a > full java implementation. I also think, that a Java J2ME Personal Profile implementation (which includes AWT) and addtional eSWT would be the best solution for

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 (SDK)

2006-03-08 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, The GTK+ port of Classpath does the same for its AWT... Regards, -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fred Lefévère-Laaoide wrote: For me, SWT provides a

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 (SDK)

2006-03-08 Thread Fred Lefévère-Laaoide
For me, SWT provides a very nice integration to the host UI. As it uses the host UI widgets, the overhead is minimal compare to a full java implementation. Resources are scarce on the 770 ... Fred Philippe Laporte wrote: Hej, I'm quite interested in your argument for it... Regards, Phi

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 (SDK)

2006-03-08 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hej, I'm quite interested in your argument for it... Regards, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fred Lefévère-Laaoide wrote: Great ! I think SWT is the way

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 (SDK)

2006-03-08 Thread Fred Lefévère-Laaoide
Great ! I think SWT is the way to go ! Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, After little hacking I've successfully executed MIDlet on Maemo SDK using MicroEmulator. Here is screenshot of SimpleDemo MIDlet: http://www.barteo.net/microemulator/j2me-maemo.png Because of problems with AWT and Sw

[maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 (SDK)

2006-03-08 Thread barteo
Hello, After little hacking I've successfully executed MIDlet on Maemo SDK using MicroEmulator. Here is screenshot of SimpleDemo MIDlet: http://www.barteo.net/microemulator/j2me-maemo.png Because of problems with AWT and Swing, I've decided to give SWT a chance (there is already support for that

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-08 Thread Tapani Pälli
ext Philippe Laporte wrote: > Hi, > I'm forwarding this to other relevant lists as well. > > The 770 window manager is Matchbox: http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox/ > > Is the color map problem already assigned to someone? > Expose-events work in 770 normally, bug is in the application/libra

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-08 Thread Philippe Laporte
Hi, I'm forwarding this to other relevant lists as well. The 770 window manager is Matchbox: http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox/ Is the color map problem already assigned to someone? Best Regards, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 16:51, ext Luis Montes wrote: It still would be nice to hear something from them. For all the java talk on this list over the last few months, I've yet to see a response from an @nokia email. (This is a response from @nokia email.) We c

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote: On tis, 2006-03-07 at 15:26 +0100, ext Philippe Laporte wrote: Michael Koch wrote:

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread S. Meslin-Weber
[apologies for separate reply, other lists didn't bounce, only moderated] On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:49:32PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: > >There are just two sides with different opinions. They have their > >opinion. > >FSF/GNU classpath has theirs. > > > > > > Well then we all want to know wh

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere)
On tis, 2006-03-07 at 15:26 +0100, ext Philippe Laporte wrote: > > Michael Koch wrote: > > >On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:49:32PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: > > > > > >>Well then we all want to know what Nokia's legions of lawyers have to > >>say...:-) > >> > >> > > > >I'm sure they will

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
Michael Koch wrote: On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:49:32PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: Well then we all want to know what Nokia's legions of lawyers have to say...:-) I'm sure they will introduce just another opinion. ok, but what assets does FSF have to lose...? __

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
. Regards, Bartek Teodorczyk ---- Original Message Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 From: Jesper Zuschlag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, March 07, 2006 12:43 pm To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Sound fine. But you will not get far without a Java environment / J

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Kimmo Hämäläinen
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 16:51, ext Luis Montes wrote: > It still would be nice to hear something from them. For all the java > talk on this list over the last few months, I've yet to see a response > from an @nokia email. (This is a response from @nokia email.) We cannot comment on product featur

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Luis Montes
mentation, - create graphics support (MIDP part) to GTK+. Regards, Bartek Teodorczyk Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 From: Jesper Zuschlag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, March 07, 2006 12:43 pm To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Sound fine

Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
Michael Koch wrote: On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:37:17PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote: If you link native to a GPL VM, then that code must also be GPL, no? That is an absolute requirement in the embedded world... That is true. But running java bytecode in with a

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
cs support (MIDP part) to GTK+. Regards, Bartek Teodorczyk Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 From: Jesper Zuschlag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, March 07, 2006 12:43 pm To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Sound fine. But you will not get fa

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Luis Montes
t work for that port would be in: - choosing JVM, - create CLDC implementation, - create graphics support (MIDP part) to GTK+. Regards, Bartek Teodorczyk Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 From: Jesper Zuschlag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue,

[Fwd: Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770]

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
port of Classpath AWT would not work? Is everyone with me when I say: "let's make AWT work first, then we can talk about Swing"? Thanks, Philippe Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 13:46:16 +0100

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > I've read some discussion on that list about the possibility of running > J2ME MIDlets on Nokia 770. As I've found, the problem is because of > lack of J2ME implementation for that device. I'm an author of > Micro

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Laporte
+46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. Most work for that port would be in: - choosing JVM, - create CLDC implementation, - create graphics support (MIDP part) to GTK+. Regards, Bartek Teodorczyk Original Message Subject: Re: [maemo-deve

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Panagiotis Issaris
Hi Jesper, Jesper Zuschlag wrote: Sound fine. But you will not get far without a Java environment / JVM, which is exactly what we are missing on the Nokia 770. I been having Actually, I have been playing with JamVM on the Nokia 770 and the parts I had tested worked (albeit slow). I only p

RE: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread barteo
Right. Most work for that port would be in: - choosing JVM, - create CLDC implementation, - create graphics support (MIDP part) to GTK+. Regards, Bartek Teodorczyk > Original Message > Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 > From: Jesper Zuschlag <[EMA

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Jesper Zuschlag
Sound fine. But you will not get far without a Java environment / JVM, which is exactly what we are missing on the Nokia 770. I been having plans for implementing a CLDC JVM on the 770 but I have been waiting for somebody to make 770 development on Mac OS X possible. I don't think it is pos

RE: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread barteo
770. Regards, Bartek Teodorczyk > Original Message > Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770 > From: Fabrice Di Meglio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, March 07, 2006 12:28 pm > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org, Di Meglio F

Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread Fabrice Di Meglio
Hi, Thank you for this info. I have strong interest into java on the 770. Could you tell me if you have support for CDC 1.1 or 1.0 ? Regards, Fabrice On Mar 7, 2006, at 2:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've read some discussion on that list about the possibility of running J

[maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

2006-03-07 Thread barteo
Hello, I've read some discussion on that list about the possibility of running J2ME MIDlets on Nokia 770. As I've found, the problem is because of lack of J2ME implementation for that device. I'm an author of MicroEmulator (http://www.sf.net/projects/microemulator) - pure java CLDC/MIDP implementa