Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-06-02 Thread Cornelius Hald
Brent Chiodo wrote: Anyway, there needs to be a solution, because right now it's unworkable. I filled a bug: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4619 Hopefully someone will change that. Please vote for it! ___ maemo-developers mailing list

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-28 Thread Cornelius Hald
Brent Chiodo wrote: Anyway, there needs to be a solution, because right now it's unworkable. I think the same, if there would be at least a property that could be set to enable/disable text selection, but just removing it cannot be the solution. Should a developer really be forced to use

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-27 Thread Brent Chiodo
On 5/14/09, Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de wrote: Panable Area How exactly should I use it? I replaced my ScrollableWindow with a PanableArea, the rest of the code I left as it is in Diablo. Inside the PanableArea is a GtkTextBox. Nothing else. Now, it renders correctly, that is it has only

Re: Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-25 Thread Cornelius Hald
There's API to set the orientation mode of your window in hildon, but I think this is not yet in the SDK. You can get a more recent version from git: git clone https://git.maemo.org/projects/hildon I just downloaded a snapshot of the git repository, but I cannot find anything related

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-24 Thread Sergio Villar Senin
Graham Cobb escribiu: On Friday 22 May 2009 18:20:55 Sergio Villar Senin wrote: Modest uses a pannable area which contains the text editor. Thus it's not possible to select text in that way in Fremantle. You'll have to use the keyboard. Not having experienced this I don't want to overreact

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-22 Thread Murray Cumming
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 14:47 +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 14:11 +0200, Alberto Garcia wrote: In principle that feature is not officially supported in Fremantle, and adding support in HildonTextView might create inconsistencies between similar-looking apps/dialogs that

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-22 Thread Sergio Villar Senin
Murray Cumming escribiu: On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 14:47 +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 14:11 +0200, Alberto Garcia wrote: In principle that feature is not officially supported in Fremantle, and adding support in HildonTextView might create inconsistencies between

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-22 Thread Graham Cobb
On Friday 22 May 2009 18:20:55 Sergio Villar Senin wrote: Modest uses a pannable area which contains the text editor. Thus it's not possible to select text in that way in Fremantle. You'll have to use the keyboard. Not having experienced this I don't want to overreact but ... Are you saying

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-22 Thread Claudio Saavedra
El vie, 22-05-2009 a las 18:52 +0100, Graham Cobb escribió: On Friday 22 May 2009 18:20:55 Sergio Villar Senin wrote: Modest uses a pannable area which contains the text editor. Thus it's not possible to select text in that way in Fremantle. You'll have to use the keyboard. Not having

Re: Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-21 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:51:47PM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: When using HildonTextView inside a PanableArea panning is working fine, but I can no longer select text. Are those two mutual exclusive? In HildonTextView you cannot select text with the pointer. This is so by design:

Re: Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-21 Thread David Greaves
Alberto Garcia wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:51:47PM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: When using HildonTextView inside a PanableArea panning is working fine, but I can no longer select text. Are those two mutual exclusive? In HildonTextView you cannot select text with the pointer. This is

Re: Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-21 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 12:00 +0200, Alberto Garcia wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:51:47PM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: When using HildonTextView inside a PanableArea panning is working fine, but I can no longer select text. Are those two mutual exclusive? In HildonTextView you cannot

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-21 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:57:00PM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: But then, what is the recommend way to produce a finger friendly text view that is editable and scrollable/panable? [...] I thought that panning/selecting would probably work like in the Diablo webbrowser. That is, that you start

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-21 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 14:11 +0200, Alberto Garcia wrote: In principle that feature is not officially supported in Fremantle, and adding support in HildonTextView might create inconsistencies between similar-looking apps/dialogs that could be quite confusing. But of course we can reconsider

Re: Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-19 Thread Cornelius Hald
Thanks to Claudio and API almost all my questions have been answered and the Fremantle version of Conboy is looking better then ever :) There is (for now) only one question left: When using HildonTextView inside a PanableArea panning is working fine, but I can no longer select text. Are those two

Re: Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-19 Thread David Greaves
Cornelius Hald wrote: Thanks to Claudio and API almost all my questions have been answered and the Fremantle version of Conboy is looking better then ever :) There is (for now) only one question left: When using HildonTextView inside a PanableArea panning is working fine, but I can no

Re: Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-19 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:48 +0100, David Greaves wrote: Cornelius Hald wrote: Thanks to Claudio and API almost all my questions have been answered and the Fremantle version of Conboy is looking better then ever :) There is (for now) only one question left: When using HildonTextView

Re: Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-19 Thread David Greaves
Cornelius Hald wrote: That sounds nice, but I was more hoping for a out-of-the-box solution. I think this use-case is quite common - it's just a scrollable (ok panable) text view. So doing like you did I would consider as last resort. Anyways, thanks for explaining your solution :) Err

Re: Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-18 Thread Cornelius Hald
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 15:12 +0200, API wrote: From: Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de Tree View I changes the code from using gtk_tree_view_new() to hildon_gtk_tree_view_new(). I thought this would give me a finger friendly version of the tree view, but I cannot see a

Re: Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-18 Thread API
From: Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 15:12 +0200, API wrote: If you want to see the differences between the HildonUIModes, you can try to take a look to the hildon-pannable-area-touch-list-example, included on the examples directories. AFAIK, the example package is not

Re: Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-18 Thread Claudio Saavedra
On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 11:35 +0200, API wrote: Thanks, I didn't know that there were examples... I downloaded and compiled them. Now it's time for playing :) Yes, for any reason the package libhildon1-examples were not included with the SDK, when in the end, can be really useful, as

Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-14 Thread Cornelius Hald
Hi Everyone, I'm sitting on the train and my notebooks battery just went flat, the sockets are not working because of some electricity problems (yea Deutsche Bahn), so I don't have the API nor my code in front of me. That said please excuse wrong spelling of function names etc... I'm having

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-14 Thread Claudio Saavedra
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:02:45AM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm sitting on the train and my notebooks battery just went flat, the sockets are not working because of some electricity problems (yea Deutsche Bahn), so I don't have the API nor my code in front of me. That said

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-14 Thread Graham Cobb
On Thursday 14 May 2009 11:25:32 Claudio Saavedra wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:02:45AM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: I'm having some quesions about the Fremantle UI. Hopefully someone can help and save me hours of boring try-and-error :) Just for the record, the hildon library team has

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-14 Thread Luca Donaggio
I definitely second Graham's opinion! Luca Donaggio On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Graham Cobb g+...@cobb.uk.netg%2b...@cobb.uk.net wrote: On Thursday 14 May 2009 11:25:32 Claudio Saavedra wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:02:45AM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: I'm having some quesions

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-14 Thread Fred
Fully agree too Fred Luca Donaggio a écrit : I definitely second Graham's opinion! Luca Donaggio On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Graham Cobb g+...@cobb.uk.net mailto:g%2b...@cobb.uk.net wrote: On Thursday 14 May 2009 11:25:32 Claudio Saavedra wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-14 Thread Claudio Saavedra
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 12:03 +0100, Graham Cobb wrote: On Thursday 14 May 2009 11:25:32 Claudio Saavedra wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:02:45AM +0200, Cornelius Hald wrote: I'm having some quesions about the Fremantle UI. Hopefully someone can help and save me hours of boring

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-14 Thread Graham Cobb
On Thursday 14 May 2009 12:15:18 Claudio Saavedra wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 12:03 +0100, Graham Cobb wrote: Please DO NOT move this sort of discussion to a hildon-devel list. This is exactly what maemo-developers is for! Surely I am not the only Maemo community developer who knows that

Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-14 Thread Cornelius Hald
Thank you very much for your answer. I got back electricity for about one hour, so i was able to test most of what you wrote. My comments are below. Panable Area How exactly should I use it? I replaced my ScrollableWindow with a PanableArea, the rest of the code I left  as it is in Diablo.

Re: Aw: Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-14 Thread API
From: Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de Tree View I changes the code from using gtk_tree_view_new() to hildon_gtk_tree_view_new(). I thought this would give me a finger friendly version of the tree view, but I cannot see a difference between the hildon and the gtk version. Also the

Re: Fremantle user interface behaviour and API

2009-05-14 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Graham Cobb wrote: On Thursday 14 May 2009 11:25:32 Claudio Saavedra wrote: Just for the record, the hildon library team has moved the hildon code to garage, and we created there a mailing list for this kind of questions and to get some feedback. You can find it in