Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-13 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 10:21 -0400, ext Brian Waite wrote: [snip] > What I am asking for is a setup like my laptop where I have a complete power > profile for the system. [snip] I see no technical problem in maemo providing the means to implement it. AFAIK there might be legal and IP related

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-13 Thread Igor Stoppa
Hi, On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 05:35 -0700, ext Andy Mulhearn wrote: > Apart from shutting off the sound thing thsi looks like a N770 cover on mode. > Is that about right? > > Even if it's not, it's one I would like to have as well - as a "put away for > a while" mode, I understand the need, but the

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-12 Thread Neil MacLeod
Neil MacLeod wrote: > Brian Waite wrote: >> So I have another request, Can we possibly have different profiles for >> battery/powered? I think it is really important to be able to say if I am >> plugged in do not go offline because I want to get my VOIP calls, but if I >> am >> on battery do so

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-12 Thread Neil MacLeod
Brian Waite wrote: > So I have another request, Can we possibly have different profiles for > battery/powered? I think it is really important to be able to say if I am > plugged in do not go offline because I want to get my VOIP calls, but if I am > on battery do something more miserly. Again, w

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-12 Thread Brian Waite
On Thursday 12 July 2007, Igor Stoppa wrote: > On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 08:48 -0400, ext Brian Waite wrote: > > [snip] > > > So I have another request, Can we possibly have different profiles for > > battery/powered? I think it is really important to be able to say if I am > > plugged in do not go off

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-12 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 08:48 -0400, ext Brian Waite wrote: [snip] > So I have another request, Can we possibly have different profiles for > battery/powered? I think it is really important to be able to say if I am > plugged in do not go offline because I want to get my VOIP calls, but if I am

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-12 Thread Brian Waite
On Wednesday 11 July 2007, Igor Stoppa wrote: > On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 16:26 +0300, ext David Weinehall wrote: > > On ons, 2007-07-11 at 15:16 +0200, ext Visti Andresen wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > I could suggest using a "double click" on the power button > > > > > > First click opens the "Devic

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 16:26 +0300, ext David Weinehall wrote: > On ons, 2007-07-11 at 15:16 +0200, ext Visti Andresen wrote: > > [snip] > > > I could suggest using a "double click" on the power button > > > > First click opens the "Device mode" dialogue. > > Second click "suspends" the device. >

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Neil MacLeod
David Weinehall wrote: > On ons, 2007-07-11 at 15:16 +0200, ext Visti Andresen wrote: > > [snip] > >> I could suggest using a "double click" on the power button >> >> First click opens the "Device mode" dialogue. >> Second click "suspends" the device. > > The idea is great, IMHO, but I doubt tha

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Ian
ola > https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1246 for me this gives There is a problem with this website's security certificate. on windows vista []'s ian -- http://ianlawrence.info ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https:

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Hanno Zulla
Marius Gedminas schrieb: > Palm had a simple sequence: > >1) Press power button Something like that had been suggested through https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1246 and was rejected as WONTFIX by the Nokia team. Regards, Hanno ___ maemo-de

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 16:32 +0300, ext Mika Yrjölä wrote: > On 7/11/07, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Igor Stoppa wrote: > > > I certainly will run my tablet at higher speed and/or lower voltage; > > > finland makes it unlikely to incur in heating problems ;-) > > > > CPU temperatu

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Mika Yrjölä
On 7/11/07, Frantisek Dufka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Igor Stoppa wrote: > > I certainly will run my tablet at higher speed and/or lower voltage; > > finland makes it unlikely to incur in heating problems ;-) > > CPU temperature sensor might be useful to guess the limit and cut the > speed down

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread David Weinehall
On ons, 2007-07-11 at 15:16 +0200, ext Visti Andresen wrote: [snip] > I could suggest using a "double click" on the power button > > First click opens the "Device mode" dialogue. > Second click "suspends" the device. The idea is great, IMHO, but I doubt that Nokia's UI-team would agree; on a No

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 14:29 +0200, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Igor Stoppa wrote: > > I certainly will run my tablet at higher speed and/or lower voltage; > > finland makes it unlikely to incur in heating problems ;-) > > CPU temperature sensor might be useful to guess the limit and cut the > sp

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Kemal Hadimli
> > > > > * Shut off all network connections. > > > > > * Stop any noise (except configured alarms) > > > > > * Have the screen locked > > > > > * Not have to save my position > > > > > * Be able to resume quickly a special softpoweroff mode combined with muted sound and offline mode sou

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread David Weinehall
On ons, 2007-07-11 at 16:14 +0300, Igor Stoppa wrote: > On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 16:01 +0300, David Weinehall wrote: > > On ons, 2007-07-11 at 13:53 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > > systemui.xml (sorry, not conf as I wrote in my previous e-mail) file > > supports callbacks, to get customised behavio

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Visti Andresen
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:52:10 +0300 Marius Gedminas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 01:44:58PM +0100, Andrew Flegg wrote: > > On 7/11/07, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 13:28 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > > > > This being reraised made me

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 16:01 +0300, David Weinehall wrote: > On ons, 2007-07-11 at 13:53 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > > On 7/11/07, David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On ons, 2007-07-11 at 13:28 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > > > > > > > > This being reraised made me think about

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread David Weinehall
On ons, 2007-07-11 at 13:53 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > On 7/11/07, David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On ons, 2007-07-11 at 13:28 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > > > > > > This being reraised made me think about why, the other day, I *did* > > > want user suspend. Sometimes I jus

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 7/11/07, David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On ons, 2007-07-11 at 13:28 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > > > > This being reraised made me think about why, the other day, I *did* > > want user suspend. Sometimes I just want a quick way to: > > > > * Shut off all network connections.

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 01:44:58PM +0100, Andrew Flegg wrote: > On 7/11/07, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 13:28 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > > > This being reraised made me think about why, the other day, I *did* > > > want user suspend. Sometimes I just want

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread David Weinehall
On ons, 2007-07-11 at 13:28 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > On 7/11/07, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [snip lots of interesting stuff] > > > > It's a similar case to sleep while idle vs user-controlled suspend: just > > because old devices were doing suspend that doesn't make it des

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 7/11/07, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 13:28 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > > > > This being reraised made me think about why, the other day, I *did* > > want user suspend. Sometimes I just want a quick way to: > > > > * Shut off all network connections. > >

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 13:28 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > On 7/11/07, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [snip lots of interesting stuff] > > > > It's a similar case to sleep while idle vs user-controlled suspend: just > > because old devices were doing suspend that doesn't make it des

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Andy Mulhearn
Apart from shutting off the sound thing thsi looks like a N770 cover on mode. Is that about right? Even if it's not, it's one I would like to have as well - as a "put away for a while" mode, Andy On Wednesday, July 11, 2007, at 01:29PM, "Andrew Flegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 7/11/07, I

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Igor Stoppa wrote: > I certainly will run my tablet at higher speed and/or lower voltage; > finland makes it unlikely to incur in heating problems ;-) CPU temperature sensor might be useful to guess the limit and cut the speed down in case one is not in Finland :-) Is there one? > >> Does it me

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 7/11/07, Igor Stoppa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip lots of interesting stuff] > > It's a similar case to sleep while idle vs user-controlled suspend: just > because old devices were doing suspend that doesn't make it desirable. This being reraised made me think about why, the other day, I

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 10:08 +0200, ext Frantisek Dufka wrote: > Thanks Igor, it is quite interesting. Maybe there is a bug on page 15 > with DSP frequency for OP 0, shouldn't the 133 be 233 or 333 (unless you > need to slow it down because of speeding up the arm core to meet some > power require

Re: Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-11 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Igor Stoppa wrote: > Hi, > this is the presentation we gave last week in Ottawa at the pm summit. > It is the first step in improving our communication process with the > community and give a preview of what we are working on. > > http://maemo.org/midcom-permalink-0c828d202f2011dc9945e502835830f13

Internet Tablet Power Management presentation from linux-pm summit 2007

2007-07-10 Thread Igor Stoppa
Hi, this is the presentation we gave last week in Ottawa at the pm summit. It is the first step in improving our communication process with the community and give a preview of what we are working on. http://maemo.org/midcom-permalink-0c828d202f2011dc9945e502835830f130f1 It contains a brief overvi