Yep you're right - it runs as long smooth as long as your mmc is
willing to play.
But keep in mind that a swap-file means meany reads/writes to the same
areas of flash which will for sure lead to the death of the mmc later
or sooner.
lg Clemens
2006/1/14, Brad Midgley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> hey
>
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 10:33 +, ext Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> But keep in mind that a swap-file means meany reads/writes to the same
> areas of flash which will for sure lead to the death of the mmc later
> or sooner.
Not really, since the flash controller on an MMC card is supposed to do
wear
Brad,
with swap on, what happens to the system when you manually remove the
mmc card? Or when you connect the USB cable to the unit?
-Vlad
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 03:30, Brad Midgley wrote:
> hey
>
> I decided to try the swap partition on my flash card and it made a HUGE
> difference. Even with o
Vladislav
> with swap on, what happens to the system when you manually remove the
> mmc card? Or when you connect the USB cable to the unit?
I am pretty sure the nokia will just crash if I eject it when swap is
active. We need to latch into the cardslot-opening and -closing events
if we want to h
From what I remember when I've tried it, it generally crashes/reboots when you remove the card. Can't remember if the same thing happens when you insert the USB cable. I've found a way around the problems with it unmounting because of the USB cable: I created a second partition (it's a 1GB card
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 11:55 -0500, ext Vladislav Grinchenko wrote:
> with swap on, what happens to the system when you manually remove the
> mmc card? Or when you connect the USB cable to the unit?
Removing the MMC card will definitely cause Bad Things to happen. It's
also very tricky to protect
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 10:10 -0500, ext Dave Neuer wrote:
> > Not really, since the flash controller on an MMC card is supposed to do
> > wear-levelling. The FAT blocks, for example, would die pretty quickly
> > otherwise, since they're written to very often.
>
> So, is there any benefit to JFFS2
On Saturday 14 January 2006 20:32, Larry Battraw wrote:
> A GUI tool for toggling swap and mounts would sure be neat!
Yes. I would like to add this feature to the CPU/Mem/Screenshot applet
alias Load-Plugin, but unfortunately it seems that the source code is
not available. I contacted the autho
On 1/14/06, Juha Yrjölä <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 10:33 +, ext Clemens Eisserer wrote:
>
> > But keep in mind that a swap-file means meany reads/writes to the same
> > areas of flash which will for sure lead to the death of the mmc later
> > or sooner.
>
> Not really, s
Larry Battraw wrote:
> hangup is having to manually remount it after a reboot, but it's worth
> the trouble. A GUI tool for toggling swap and mounts would sure be
> neat!
Well, not properly a GUI tool but two menu entries for adding and
removing swap, I think this could useful for you [1].
I tu
Israel Herraiz wrote:
Larry Battraw wrote:
hangup is having to manually remount it after a reboot, but it's worth
the trouble. A GUI tool for toggling swap and mounts would sure be
neat!
Well, not properly a GUI tool but two menu entries for adding and
removing swap, I
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 13:55 +0200, ext Urho Konttori wrote:
> This is just a suggestion, but could the following be safe enough for
> consumer grade swap use on Nokia 770:
>
> If user has swapon. User opens MMC door. System pops up a large RED
> GUI that states: You have swap active. Please turn
Well it is solvable but hard. You could halt everything and display
something like 'Poor human, give me my card back or I will reboot'. But
this has to be done in low level (kernel thread?, direct framebuffer
access?) because anything in userspace can segfault when swap is removed.
I know simi
On 1/16/06, Juha Yrjölä <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 13:55 +0200, ext Urho Konttori wrote:
>
> > This is just a suggestion, but could the following be safe enough for
> > consumer grade swap use on Nokia 770:
> >
> > If user has swapon. User opens MMC door. System pops up a la
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 11:12 -0500, Dave Neuer wrote:
> But, where a developed market for the device doesn't exist, one has to
> seriously ask the question whether simplicity and reliability are a
> substitute for flexibility and openess to experimentation, with the
> risk that the complexities inh
On 1/16/06, Dave Neuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think Nokia has done a lot of things right w/ the 770, but I do have
> to say that I think the idea that the 770 will be a huge consumer
> success by being more "like a phone" than "like a computer" is wrong.
Yeah, the huge consumer success the
Urho
> If user has swapon. User opens MMC door. System pops up a large RED GUI
> that states: You have swap active. Please turn off swap before removing
> MMC from the slot. GUI would have one large button (turn off swap).
> After swapoff, GUI would turn green and say, it's safe to detach MMC now.
Dave Neuer wrote:
> Does this include the "door is open/closed" information? Where is that
> documented?
In the latest firmware, there are scripts which are executed when those
events occurr. Take a look at /usr/sbin/osso-{mmc-mount, mmc-umount,
cover-open,cover-closed,usb-cable-attached,usb-cable
On 1/16/06, Dave Neuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> E.g., I asked for pointers to info like the above before (even just a
> description of the FIASCO components and info like size constraints),
> and the only answer I got was someone I believe was not a Nokia
> employee and which said "search the
On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 01:30 -0700, Brad Midgley wrote:
> hey
>
> I decided to try the swap partition on my flash card and it made a HUGE
> difference. Even with only 25mb swap (30mb wouldn't work for me), now
> memory is not nearly the concern it was. I can run multiple apps, look
> at complex pdf
Andy
> What do you mean "30mb wouldn't work"? I put a 32meg swapFILE on the
> 64meg mmc I received and it worked fine (/proc/meminfo and /proc/swaps
> showed swap usage, and I could get numerous things running with out
> problems. Now I'm trying to partition a 512meg MMC into two partitions,
> a
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 21:32, ext Israel Herraiz wrote:
> Dave Neuer wrote:
> > Does this include the "door is open/closed" information? Where is that
> > documented?
>
> In the latest firmware, there are scripts which are executed when those
> events occurr. Take a look at /usr/sbin/osso-{mmc-moun
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:maemo-developers-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Andy
> Verzonden: dinsdag 17 januari 2006 5:14
> Aan: maemo-developers@maemo.org
> Onderwerp: Re: [maemo-developers] swapfile is a huge improvement!
>
> On
Hi,
Am Sonntag, den 15.01.2006, 18:33 +0200 schrieb Juha Yrjölä:
> On Sat, 2006-01-14 at 11:55 -0500, ext Vladislav Grinchenko wrote:
>
> > with swap on, what happens to the system when you manually remove the
> > mmc card? Or when you connect the USB cable to the unit?
>
> Removing the MMC card
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