Gary wrote:
Yes, the N900 supports HSDPA per the specs here:
http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/specifications
Oh, it's finally here, my swiss army knife. They didn't forget the
TV-Out this time. Great. I really hope that this time the N9xx series
will last some years - with updates for the first
Gary,
thanks for the clarification and for sharing the info about the new
Verizon Wireless (EVDO/HDSPA) modem product.
Regarding Verizon Wireless plans to build out their own
UMTS/HSDPA/EDGE/GSM Radio Access Network in the U.S. I expect that they
will do that in the 700 mhz band where they
sebastian maemo wrote:
I would say that N900 will have HSDPA support. I cannot even imagine
the contrary...
Yes, the N900 supports HSDPA per the specs here:
http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/specifications
In my original post, I was referring to the fact that Verizon is
currently developing its own
Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote:
So, why are Visor PDAs dead then ?
They're no more dead than the Commodore 64, the Amiga, BeOS, OS/2,
OpenVMS, etc. So long as there's a niche user base, there will be niche
developers. But don't expect there to be any huge advances in technology
for any of those
On 8/31/09, Gary g...@eyetraxx.net wrote:
Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote:
So, why are Visor PDAs dead then ?
They're no more dead than the Commodore 64, the Amiga, BeOS, OS/2,
OpenVMS, etc. So long as there's a niche user base, there will be niche
developers. But don't expect there to be any
2009/8/30 John B. Holmblad jholmb...@hotmail.com
Gary,
your response suggests that the initial release of the N900 will not
support HSDPA.
If that is the case then it would seem that the N900 will have poor
network performance due to a bandwidth limitation when the device is
used on
2009/8/20 Eugene Antimirov tur...@gmail.com
Hi everyone!
I'm sure all of you are eager to look at the newest N900. Here is the
first review of the device by Eldar Murtazin, Russian mobile
columnist.
Hi,
for me the big question is... Will I be able to install an XTERM
application?... Will
Hello,
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:44 AM, sebastian maemo sebastian.ma...@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/8/20 Eugene Antimirov tur...@gmail.com
Hi everyone!
I'm sure all of you are eager to look at the newest N900. Here is the
first review of the device by Eldar Murtazin, Russian mobile
columnist.
2009/8/30 Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com
for me the big question is... Will I be able to install an XTERM
application?... Will I be able to install a GNU shell, like BASH?... and
even more important than that... Will I be able to login as ROOT?
If not, then for me it's just another
[Sebastian]
for me the big question is... Will I be
able to install an XTERM application?...
Will I be able to install a GNU shell,
like BASH?... and even more important
than that... Will I be able to login as
ROOT?
These too are deal-breakers. No shell means no go, period. No Emacs, no
Peter Flynn wrote:
[Sebastian]
for me the big question is... Will I be
able to install an XTERM application?...
Will I be able to install a GNU shell,
like BASH?... and even more important
than that... Will I be able to login as
ROOT?
These too are deal-breakers. No shell means no
[David]
Maybe holding the unjustified vitriol until you read the reply that came *3
minutes* after the post? (and well over an hour before you posted).
My apologies for the crossed wires: I'm away from base so my access is
sporadic, and messages don't always arrive as promptly as one might
Peter Flynn wrote:
[David]
Maybe holding the unjustified vitriol until you read the reply that came *3
minutes* after the post? (and well over an hour before you posted).
My apologies for the crossed wires: I'm away from base so my access is
sporadic, and messages don't always
Mark,
it was surely a RD cost driven decision for Nokia to not provide a
version of Freemantle that would work on the N800 and N810.
Of course, technically speaking, they could have done something to
provide a back-port to older hardware, even if some Freemantle features
had to be suppressed.
Mark wolfm...@gmail.com writes:
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Kevin T.
Neelyktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote:
Not at all. The complaint I responded to was that Nokia would drop
software updates for the N900 as soon as the next hardware came out,
which it may or may not do. But it
Gary,
your response suggests that the initial release of the N900 will not
support HSDPA.
If that is the case then it would seem that the N900 will have poor
network performance due to a bandwidth limitation when the device is
used on mobile networks. I must be misinterpreting your remarks
Am Donnerstag, den 27.08.2009, 11:11 -0500 schrieb mathew:
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 15:56, Dr. Nicholas Shaw d...@docharley.com
wrote:
Nope. Won't run and won't be available.
Well, that's a shame for Nokia, 'cause I'm not about to buy a new
device unless I can verify that the
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 15:56, Dr. Nicholas Shaw d...@docharley.com wrote:
Nope. Won't run and won't be available.
Well, that's a shame for Nokia, 'cause I'm not about to buy a new device
unless I can verify that the various deficiencies of the N800 OS have been
fixed.
Also, I doubt if it's
Andre Klapper wrote:
For your interest the Mer project aims to provide a community backport
of Fremantle for N8x0 devices.
See http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer for more information.
andre
Is support for the 900 being considered in the development of Mer?
I did not see it mentioned anywhere.
I don't understand why that's such a big deal. *all* hardware gets tossed
aside eventually. Mobile just happens more often than others because the
development space is so fast.
If you want something that you can keep around for a while, get a big
desktop. That probably has the longest
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Kevin T.
Neelyktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote:
I don't understand why that's such a big deal. all hardware gets tossed
aside eventually.
You could not be more wrong. I'm still using my Handspring Visor
Deluxe every day because it does things that *no* other
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote:
You could not be more wrong. I'm still using my Handspring Visor
Deluxe every day because it does things that *no* other device can do,
When is the last time you had a software update for these devices?
--
In Vino Veritas
Not at all. The complaint I responded to was that Nokia would drop software
updates for the N900 as soon as the next hardware came out, which it may or
may not do. But it doesn't really matter because the tech moves so fast,
older hardware just isn't useful anymore. Maybe the Visor is fine for
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Kevin T.
Neelyktne...@astroturfgarden.com wrote:
Not at all. The complaint I responded to was that Nokia would drop software
updates for the N900 as soon as the next hardware came out, which it may or
may not do. But it doesn't really matter because the tech
Kevin T. Neely wrote:
I don't understand why that's such a big deal. /all/ hardware gets
tossed aside eventually. Mobile just happens more often than others
because the development space is so fast.
If you want something that you can keep around for a while, get a big
desktop. That
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Em 27-08-2009 18:27, sean escreveu:
The wireless/Internet stuff was weak, but as a PIM and more, it could be
used completely right out of the box. Palm put out updates for what
seemed like ages.
I truly hope Nokia adds a good PIN in it.
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 10:23 -0700, Kevin T. Neely wrote:
I don't understand why that's such a big deal. all hardware gets
tossed aside eventually. Mobile just happens more often than others
because the development space is so fast.
If you want something that you can keep around for a
Hi everyone!
I'm sure all of you are eager to look at the newest N900. Here is the
first review of the device by Eldar Murtazin, Russian mobile
columnist.
In English - http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-rx51-n900-en.shtml
Russian version -
I have to say, I'm pretty excited about the N900. That looks like Canola in
the pictures. If they integrated that into the base system, the Maemo team
did a very smart thing there.
Looking forward to hearing more about it from Nokia World.announcements.
K
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:58 AM,
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Em 20-08-2009 14:32, Kevin T. Neely escreveu:
I have to say, I'm pretty excited about the N900. That looks like
Canola in the pictures. If they integrated that into the base system,
the Maemo team did a very smart thing there.
Some time ago I
One thing concerns me based upon earlier reviews - it appears that the size
of the screen will be smaller. That may not be a big issue as it appears
from the pictures that Nokia is utilizing the space better than the 810.
Only time will tell. It also looks like they've added capabilities (such
Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote:
Now, if ATT has the N900 when it comes out I'll be set. If not, I'll keep
using my N810. :-)
My guess is that -- like their other mobile phone products -- if you buy
direct from Nokia it won't be carrier locked.
-Gary
Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote:
Now, if ATT has the N900 when it comes out I'll be set. If not, I'll keep
using my N810. :-)
My guess is that -- like their other mobile phone products -- if you buy
direct from Nokia it won't be carrier locked.
That is all well and good. But T-Mobile is listed as
I´m worried about the elder versions, like N8x0, that became very popular in
Brazil.
Will Maemo 5 support 'em and bring us more development teams, doin' basic
useful stuff like a text editor and makin' N8x0 better?
Now, I see it as a great gadget, but it´s too limited due the lack of
softwares
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 20:11, Dr. Nicholas Shawd...@docharley.com wrote:
I'm hoping that they've added the ability to select 12/24-hour time.
No need to hope, that's been known for a *long* time (over a year in fact):
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303
And, more specifically:
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 20:21, Cassio Gomesgome...@gmail.com wrote:
I´m worried about the elder versions, like N8x0, that became very popular in
Brazil.
Will Maemo 5 support 'em and bring us more development teams, doin' basic
useful stuff like a text editor and makin' N8x0 better?
No, the
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Cassio Gomesgome...@gmail.com wrote:
I´m worried about the elder versions, like N8x0, that became very popular in
Brazil.
Will Maemo 5 support 'em and bring us more development teams, doin' basic
useful stuff like a text editor and makin' N8x0 better?
Now, I
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Eugene Antimirov tur...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm sure all of you are eager to look at the newest N900. Here is the
first review of the device by Eldar Murtazin, Russian mobile
columnist.
In English -
Erik Hovland wrote:
Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote:
Now, if ATT has the N900 when it comes out I'll be set. If not, I'll keep
using my N810. :-)
My guess is that -- like their other mobile phone products -- if you buy
direct from Nokia it won't be carrier locked.
That is all
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Andrew Fleggand...@bleb.org wrote:
Well, since Mer's based on Ubuntu, thousands of packags are only an
apt-get away...
This is propaganda and a myth. Sure, you may be able to _install_ apps
from the Ubuntu repository, but whether they'll be usable on the
device
Am Donnerstag, den 20.08.2009, 13:28 -0600 schrieb Mark:
No, and when Maemo X comes along, they'll be abandoning N900 owners
just like they _already_ have N770 and N8x0 owners. Once they leave
the factory, any further software development for the tablets is left
up to the community...
What if
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Fernando Cassiafcas...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks very exciting. I remember telling on this very same list that what
killed the Nxx tablet series was basically that it lacked a GSM radio, in
other words, a phone. Hence the device didn't fit Nokia's product line, as
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Andre Klapperaklap...@openismus.com wrote:
Am Donnerstag, den 20.08.2009, 13:28 -0600 schrieb Mark:
No, and when Maemo X comes along, they'll be abandoning N900 owners
just like they _already_ have N770 and N8x0 owners. Once they leave
the factory, any further
Unlocked would be good and would, I suspect, resolve the issue. Thanks!
Nick.
-Original Message-
From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org]
On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:14 PM
To: maemo-users@maemo.org
Subject: Re: N900/Maemo 5
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote:
Good luck with that. The processing power on these things is
deliberately modest, at least partly because there is a very valid
power conservation issue, and Java can be sluggish even on a fast PC.
This is a myth.
I've run
Jason Edgecombe wrote:
I prefer Verizon's coverage area, but they don't do GSM, :(
Not yet. They're already working on a hybrid EV-DO/HSPA modem
(http://tr.im/nX3C) and are moving fast on building out their HSPA
buildout (http://tr.im/nX47). I've also read that some test markets will
be in place
Nope. Won't run and won't be available.
Nick.
-Original Message-
From: maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-boun...@maemo.org]
On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 2:39 PM
To: maemo-users users; maemo-commun...@maemo.org
Subject: Re: N900/Maemo 5 review
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 21:39, Scottsc...@sw41.com wrote:
Is there any chance that the new OS for the N900 would run or be
available for the N8x0 crowd?
No. You've four choices:
1) Keep Diablo.
2) Use and support Mer: http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer (which can be
considered a backport of
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Fernando Cassiafcas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote:
Good luck with that. The processing power on these things is
deliberately modest, at least partly because there is a very valid
power conservation issue,
On Thursday 20 August 2009 23:23:16 Mark wrote:
I personally am growing very weary of
non-hot-swappable slots in devices. There really is no justification
for that PITA. It's just one of many reasons I'll never give up my
N800 for an N810.
The N810 has a fully hot swappable slot, it will
Mark wrote:
That's an excuse (and a poor one), not a reason. When they never get
around to actually finishing the OS or software for the N9X0, you'll
be hearing I told you so...
Mobile processors are is going through upgrade cycles much faster than
the desktop and server processor market.
On Thursday 20 August 2009 23:29:21 Peter Flynn wrote:
It doesn't look like the camera can be used backwards like the N800's
pop-out one. That was crippled by lack of software; presumably this one
is usable with Skype etc, but a pity if it can't be used as a webcam.
Based on the preview, the
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Fernando Cassiafcas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Mark wolfm...@gmail.com wrote:
Good luck with that. The processing power on these things is
deliberately modest,
On Thursday 20 August 2009 23:42:55 Attila Csipa wrote:
The N810 has a fully hot swappable slot, it will even automatically
(un)mount the device if you open/close the microSD card lid.
Sorry, that was supposed to be miniSD. But it's definitely hot-swappable
regardless of that :)
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Garyg...@eyetraxx.net wrote:
Mark wrote:
That's an excuse (and a poor one), not a reason. When they never get
around to actually finishing the OS or software for the N9X0, you'll
be hearing I told you so...
Mobile processors are is going through upgrade
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Attila Csipama...@csipa.in.rs wrote:
On Thursday 20 August 2009 23:23:16 Mark wrote:
I personally am growing very weary of
non-hot-swappable slots in devices. There really is no justification
for that PITA. It's just one of many reasons I'll never give up my
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Fernando Cassiafcas...@gmail.com wrote:
I was thinking Java ME and JavaFX Mobile. Both of which are designed to run
on smartphones.
FC
Yes, because they are lite versions, not real Java, and will only
run the tiny apps written especially for them. But if
Mark wrote:
That's a straw-man fallacy.
Have I somehow misrepresented your position? If not, then it's not a
straw man argument or an informal fallacy.
If you throw enough swap at an OS you can run anything but an I/O bound
device is still bound whether it's portable or not. Unfortunately,
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Garyg...@eyetraxx.net wrote:
Mark wrote:
That's a straw-man fallacy.
Have I somehow misrepresented your position? If not, then it's not a
straw man argument or an informal fallacy.
If you throw enough swap at an OS you can run anything but an I/O bound
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Attila Csipama...@csipa.in.rs wrote:
On Friday 21 August 2009 00:33:54 Mark wrote:
Let's see... one miniSDHC (not micro, meaning you need a micro- to
miniSD adapter for it to really be useful) compared to - count 'em -
two full-sized SDHC slots, both accessible
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 01:38 +0200, ext Mark wrote:
many other devices these days
are putting the microSD slot under the battery. Grrr...
for the very same reason why the SIM is located there in the vast
majority (all?) of phones: to prevent hot swap and simplify its
management.
If you were to
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Igor Stoppaigor.sto...@nokia.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 01:38 +0200, ext Mark wrote:
many other devices these days
are putting the microSD slot under the battery. Grrr...
for the very same reason why the SIM is located there in the vast
majority (all?)
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