Michael Scherer kirjoitti:
> Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 à 20:06 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit :
>> Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 19:31:44, Michael Scherer a écrit :
>> > Le mardi 12 octobre 2010 à 17:53 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit :
>> > > > == And DVDCSS, etc?
>> > >
>> > > What's in etc
Anssi Hannula kirjoitti torstai, 14. lokakuuta 2010 11:07:04:
> Michael Scherer kirjoitti:
> > Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 à 20:06 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit :
> >> Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 19:31:44, Michael Scherer a écrit :
> >> > Le mardi 12 octobre 2010 à 17:53 +0200, Olivier Méjean
On Thursday 14 October 2010 11:34:30 Anssi Hannula wrote:
> Anssi Hannula kirjoitti torstai, 14. lokakuuta 2010 11:07:04:
> > Michael Scherer kirjoitti:
> > > Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 à 20:06 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit :
> > >> Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 19:31:44, Michael Scherer a écrit
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Anssi Hannula wrote:
> > Oops, didn't notice the above posts were about DRM only, not patents...
> > anyway, ibiblio contains such distros as well.
>
> BTW, according to 17 U.S.C. Sec. 1201(f) circumvention of protection measures
> is allowed if it is necessary to achieve in
Marc Paré wrote:
> Thanks for posting the site Tux99. There was talk of more user groups
> doing the poll/survey. Does anyone know if this is being done? Great
> data for the devs to consider.
>
> Marc
This in the Spanish-speaking Mandriva community BlogDrake:
http://blogdrake.net/encuesta/que
Frank Griffin wrote:
>> Now that's getting very hackish.
>> I'd rather not have many programs wrapped in scripts that would do some
>> magic on my home dir under the hood. Because with such a "solution" the
>> programs would be always wrapped, even if you never do a rollback.
>> How would such scr
Quote: Buchan Milne wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 15:27
> What aspects of the Mandriva backports solution are not satisfactory?
>
> -The fact that not everything is available as a backport?
Yes, more packages should be available
(and as future packager I will do my part to make that happen)
>
Le 2010-10-14 09:08, Sinner from the Prairy a écrit :
Marc Paré wrote:
Thanks for posting the site Tux99. There was talk of more user groups
doing the poll/survey. Does anyone know if this is being done? Great
data for the devs to consider.
Marc
This in the Spanish-speaking Mandriva communit
Just to add to my last post:
It would be useful if users could disable specifc packages from being
updated via the update GUI.
What I mean is basically when new updates get presented (which would
include new backports) the user could untick specific packages (as is
possible now) but also have a s
Quote: marc wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 15:49
>
> Is it me or is the poll different? The overall feeling on the Spanish
> Blogdrake is to "like Mandriva a stable system with upgrades and
> backports" at 58%. I imagine this means keeping to Mandriva release
> cycle with no changes.
>
> Would
On 14 October 2010 15:41, Tux99 wrote:
>
>
> Quote: Buchan Milne wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 15:27
>
>> What aspects of the Mandriva backports solution are not satisfactory?
>>
>> -The fact that not everything is available as a backport?
>
> Yes, more packages should be available
> (and as futur
Quote: Ahmad Samir wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 16:00
>
> I've seen, too many times, trigger-happy packagers backporting
> packages that're not maintained by them (so they know it less than
> those package maintainer(s)), breaking those packages and annoying the
> maintainers of said packages. I
On 14 October 2010 16:14, Tux99 wrote:
>
>
> Quote: Ahmad Samir wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 16:00
[]
>>
>> Enabling them by default defies the purpose of having backports at
>> all; it's not for new users, it's more for slightly experienced users
>> or power users who want the latest versio
Quote: Ahmad Samir wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 16:21
> Then you're not talking about new users any more...
I don't know what you mean by new users, but I was talking about 'normal'
user by which I mean general users without technical background (like my
wife for example :) ), people that have
Does anyone take notes to summarize and make a consistent proposal (be
it in some way or the other) of what should be done, as well as
defining some sort of personas for users (unaware, new, occasional,
frequent, expert) for evaluation?
Romain
Le 2010-10-14 09:57, Tux99 a écrit :
Quote: marc wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 15:49
Is it me or is the poll different? The overall feeling on the Spanish
Blogdrake is to "like Mandriva a stable system with upgrades and
backports" at 58%. I imagine this means keeping to Mandriva release
cycle
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
> Does anyone take notes to summarize and make a consistent proposal (be
> it in some way or the other) of what should be done, as well as
> defining some sort of personas for users (unaware, new, occasional,
> frequent, expert) for evaluation?
I was t
Le 2010-10-14 09:53, Tux99 a écrit :
Just to add to my last post:
It would be useful if users could disable specifc packages from being
updated via the update GUI.
What I mean is basically when new updates get presented (which would
include new backports) the user could untick specific packages
Le 2010-10-14 10:29, Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
Does anyone take notes to summarize and make a consistent proposal (be
it in some way or the other) of what should be done, as well as
defining some sort of personas for users (unaware, new, occasional,
frequent, expert) for evaluation?
Romain
T
Tux99 wrote:
> Quote: Ahmad Samir wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 16:00
>> Enabling them by default defies the purpose of having backports at
>> all; it's not for new users, it's more for slightly experienced users
>> or power users who want the latest versions of apps.
> That's exactly the crucia
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Tux99 wrote:
>
> I think they should be enabled by default, since it's my impression that
> the majority of 'normal' users wants new versions of apps, those users who
> DON'T want them can still always disable them.
If backports repository is enabled by default, it should be
Tux99 wrote:
> I guess the old rule of polls applies:
> depending on how you formulate the poll question and the description of
> the options you can hugely influence the results...
This is so true.
I follow the politics blog FiveThirtyEight (warning! statistics nerd alert
activated!) and again
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, nicolas vigier wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Tux99 wrote:
>
> > I think they should be enabled by default, since it's my impression that
> > the majority of 'normal' users wants new versions of apps, those users who
> > DON'T want them can still always disable them.
>
> If ba
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 14:29:14 Marc Paré wrote:
> Le 2010-10-13 14:23, Michael Scherer a écrit :
> > Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 à 20:06 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit :
> >> Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 19:31:44, Michael Scherer a écrit :
> >>> Le mardi 12 octobre 2010 à 17:53 +0200, Olivier
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 20:54:45 Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
> About codecs Codeina will be available in Mageia ? I find it very
> comfortable for new and advanced users.
Yes. It is available on Mandriva and I don't see any reason to drop it from
Mageia.
--
Anssi Hannula
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Tux99 wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, nicolas vigier wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Tux99 wrote:
> >
> > > I think they should be enabled by default, since it's my impression that
> > > the majority of 'normal' users wants new versions of apps, those users who
> > > DON'T wa
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, nicolas vigier wrote:
> Experience tells me that backports break much more than regular
> security/bugfix updates.
Do you have any examples?
I have been using backports on all my PCs and enabled them on all PCs of
friends whom I installed Mandriva and so far I have yet to s
On 14 October 2010 17:04, Anssi Hannula wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 October 2010 20:54:45 Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
>> About codecs Codeina will be available in Mageia ? I find it very
>> comfortable for new and advanced users.
>
> Yes. It is available on Mandriva and I don't see any reason to
Le 2010-10-14 11:02, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 14:29:14 Marc Paré wrote:
Le 2010-10-13 14:23, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 à 20:06 +0200, Olivier Méjean a écrit :
Le mercredi 13 octobre 2010 19:31:44, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le mardi 12 oc
Le 2010-10-14 12:08, Ahmad Samir a écrit :
On 14 October 2010 17:04, Anssi Hannula wrote:
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 20:54:45 Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
About codecs Codeina will be available in Mageia ? I find it very
comfortable for new and advanced users.
Yes. It is available on M
Le 2010-10-14 10:56, Sinner from the Prairy a écrit :
Tux99 wrote:
I guess the old rule of polls applies:
depending on how you formulate the poll question and the description of
the options you can hugely influence the results...
This is so true.
I follow the politics blog FiveThirtyEight (w
Le 2010-10-14 10:50, nicolas vigier a écrit :
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Tux99 wrote:
I think they should be enabled by default, since it's my impression that
the majority of 'normal' users wants new versions of apps, those users who
DON'T want them can still always disable them.
If backports repo
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 18:32, Marc Paré wrote:
> Is there a dedicated mailist for the leaders of the different communities?
> It would probably make sense to have a closed list for them to coordinate
> projects such as polls, marketing, sharing of resource materials agreemtns
> etc. Just a place
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:33:31 +0200, Tux99 wrote:
> I have been using backports on all my PCs and enabled them on all PCs of
> friends whom I installed Mandriva and so far I have yet to see a single
> breakage caused by backports.
Having never had Backports enabled, I was encouraged by posting
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Maurice Batey wrote:
> However, I then found that the new version of VLC had problems with
> DVD menus, and the new CUPS introduced problems (not just in my
> installation but at least one other Mandriva user).
I would put this down to the fact that currently in Mandriva back
Le 2010-10-14 12:42, Romain d'Alverny a écrit :
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 18:32, Marc Paré wrote:
Is there a dedicated mailist for the leaders of the different communities?
It would probably make sense to have a closed list for them to coordinate
projects such as polls, marketing, sharing of reso
Le 2010-10-14 13:05, Tux99 a écrit :
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Maurice Batey wrote:
However, I then found that the new version of VLC had problems with
DVD menus, and the new CUPS introduced problems (not just in my
installation but at least one other Mandriva user).
I would put this down to the f
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:29:28 +0200
"Romain d'Alverny" wrote:
> Does anyone take notes to summarize and make a consistent
> proposal (be it in some way or the other) of what should be done,
> as well as defining some sort of personas for users (unaware,
> new, occasional, frequent, expert) for eva
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 20:22:01 Michael Scherer wrote:
> Le mardi 12 octobre 2010 à 18:02 +0300, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
> > Hi all!
> >
> > Do people have any thoughts on what kind of repository/media sectioning
> > we should use on Mageia, and what should those sections contain?
> >
> > N
Questions about patents is related to which law applies to Mageia. No answers
to which law then no clear policy can be applied.
For me, since Mageia.org will lead the project (and will own Mageia
trademarks) is located in France, since build system of Mageia will be in
France then French law i
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 09:44:39AM +0100, Buchan Milne wrote:
On Saturday, 9 October 2010 10:10:36 Renaud MICHEL wrote:
On samedi 09 octobre 2010 at 05:45, andré wrote :
> Note that configuration files that have been changed from the
> installation default are often already saved. (Generally ".
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 09:57:03PM +0200, Olivier Méjean wrote:
> Le jeudi 14 octobre 2010 20:55:01, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
> > On Wednesday 13 October 2010 20:22:01 Michael Scherer wrote:
> > > Le mardi 12 octobre 2010 à 18:02 +0300, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
> > > > Hi all!
> > > >
> > > > Do peo
2010/10/14 Marc Paré :
>
> So, it sounds to me, that a core group individual, should, as an official
> representative of the Mageia project, approach these organisations and FSF
> to check and to get advice/opinons. Just to make sure.
Although I may not speak as an official Mageia rep I will prese
Le 2010-10-14 21:55, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
2010/10/14 Marc Paré:
So, it sounds to me, that a core group individual, should, as an official
representative of the Mageia project, approach these organisations and FSF
to check and to get advice/opinons. Just to make sure.
Although I may not
Hi everybody.
I feel that the concept of a new way, as it exist into my mind is not
completely understood. Let me try to re-explain again. Please be patient and
excuses any mistake with my English (I'm totally out of practice):
I'm talking about to liberate to novice/novel/without experience us
On 15 October 2010 04:48, Fernando Parra wrote:
> Hi everybody.
>
> I feel that the concept of a new way, as it exist into my mind is not
> completely understood. Let me try to re-explain again. Please be patient and
> excuses any mistake with my English (I'm totally out of practice):
>
> I'm ta
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