Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread andre999
James Kerr a écrit : On 10/06/11 22:44, andre999 wrote: James Kerr a écrit : On 10/06/11 15:09, James Kerr wrote: On 10/06/11 13:54, Michael Scherer wrote: Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 14:21 +0200, Oliver Burger a écrit : Thomas Backlund schrieb am 10.06.2011 So the path would then be */upd

Re: [Mageia-dev] get-skype package for submission

2011-06-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-10 20:13, Barry Jackson a écrit : On 10/06/11 15:08, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Barry Thanks for doing this. I uncompressed the file. What is the difference between the 2 .rpms? You may want to include a "readme" in the package for people like me. Cheers Marc Marc, It is not really re

Re: [Mageia-dev] get-skype package for submission

2011-06-10 Thread Barry Jackson
On 10/06/11 15:08, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Barry Thanks for doing this. I uncompressed the file. What is the difference between the 2 .rpms? You may want to include a "readme" in the package for people like me. Cheers Marc Marc, It is not really ready for general consumption yet (although it d

Re: [Mageia-dev] get-skype package for submission

2011-06-10 Thread Barry Jackson
On 10/06/11 18:06, Anssi Hannula wrote: I didn't test it, but the problems I see now: 1. The MD5SUM isn't checked, IMO it should be. I was just discussing that on IRC with Ahmad ;) I now have that working OK 2. On error you exit with "|| exit 1" but leave the files in /tmp, polluting it

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread James Kerr
On 10/06/11 22:44, andre999 wrote: James Kerr a écrit : On 10/06/11 15:09, James Kerr wrote: On 10/06/11 13:54, Michael Scherer wrote: Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 14:21 +0200, Oliver Burger a écrit : Thomas Backlund schrieb am 10.06.2011 So the path would then be */updates_testing -> */updat

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Dexter Morgan
2011/6/11 JA Magallón : > On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:45:03 +0200, JA Magallón wrote: > >> Hi all... >> >> I have a problem with this first big change in Cauldron... >> I have a couple test boxes in which I have updated everything, and I can't >> get Gnome 3 to work properly. I suppose it is still work

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread JA Magallón
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:45:03 +0200, JA Magallón wrote: > Hi all... > > I have a problem with this first big change in Cauldron... > I have a couple test boxes in which I have updated everything, and I can't > get Gnome 3 to work properly. I suppose it is still work in progress, but as > other peo

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread andre999
James Kerr a écrit : On 10/06/11 15:09, James Kerr wrote: On 10/06/11 13:54, Michael Scherer wrote: Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 14:21 +0200, Oliver Burger a écrit : Thomas Backlund schrieb am 10.06.2011 So the path would then be */updates_testing -> */updates _if_ we decide that's the way to

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME 2.32 borked

2011-06-10 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Daniel Le Berre wrote: Le 10/06/2011 18:05, Frank Griffin a écrit : Just updated and rebooted a system which was last rebooted Jun 7, and both GDM and KDM fail to log into my GNOME DE with a greyish popup saying "failed to load your GNOME session". Same error message. Sw

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME 2.32 borked

2011-06-10 Thread Bernard Siaud alias Troumad
Le 10/06/2011 18:37, Daniel Le Berre a écrit : Same error message. Switched to icewm to be able to work. xfce is also a good chose. But, we want try gnome 3 ;) -- Amicalement vOOotre Troumad Alias Bernard SIAUD mon site : http://troumad.org : AD&D maths WEB... Pour la liberté http

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Christiaan Welvaart at 10/06/11 16:34 did gyre and gimble: If people are using a system with gnome installed to develop gnome, it's not strange they run into problems. I call shenanigans. I do this kind of stuff all the time. It's

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Ahmad Samir at 10/06/11 17:01 did gyre and gimble: On 10 June 2011 17:56, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 17:34 +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: If people are using a system with gnome installed to develop gnome, it's

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Daniel Kreuter
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 03:17:10PM +0200, Dexter Morgan wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 02:59:58PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > > >> My main issue is more that not everything i

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME 2.32 borked

2011-06-10 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/10/2011 12:37 PM, Daniel Le Berre wrote: Got the same problem this morning on a Mageia 1 RC that had not been updated for two weeks, and that I updated yesterday. The following GNOME3 packages seem to have gotten installed in spite of --keep: gnome-icon-theme gnome-menus gnome-s

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 10 juni 2011 18:26:56 schreef Colin Guthrie: [...] > I call shenanigans. I do this kind of stuff all the time. It's easy to > use a custom prefix (i.e. not /usr) if you select the right configure > options. It means you get a working system but can also develop the next > version. I've b

Re: [Mageia-dev] get-skype package for submission

2011-06-10 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 10.06.2011 02:56, Barry Jackson wrote: > I have been working on a package to install Skype current stable release > and now feel that it is ready for submission for approval. > > It has already been improved/corrected/adapted many times following > discussions on #mageia-mentoring where I have

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 10 June 2011 18:24, Colin Guthrie wrote: > 'Twas brillig, and Ahmad Samir at 10/06/11 17:01 did gyre and gimble: >> On 10 June 2011 17:56, Liam R E Quin wrote: >>> On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 17:34 +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:  If people are using a system with gnome installed to deve

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport? (was: Finalizing update process)

2011-06-10 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 10 June 2011 13:44, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > 2011/6/10 Michael Scherer : >> >> We have used backports in the past for that, and I see no reason to >> change that. >> >> If the problem is that backports were too buggy in the past, then we >> should fix backports process, not bypassing them. >>

Re: [Mageia-dev] GNOME 2.32 borked

2011-06-10 Thread Daniel Le Berre
Le 10/06/2011 18:05, Frank Griffin a écrit : > Just updated and rebooted a system which was last rebooted Jun 7, and > both GDM and KDM fail to log into my GNOME DE with a greyish popup > saying "failed to load your GNOME session". > > /var/log/gdm/0.log shows a segfault backtrace in fglrx, but th

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Christiaan Welvaart at 10/06/11 16:34 did gyre and gimble: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Olav Vitters wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:35:57PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: >>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Olav Vitters wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:15:01PM +0200, Christi

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Anssi Hannula
On 10.06.2011 17:28, Thorsten van Lil wrote: > Am 10.06.2011 16:09, schrieb James Kerr: >> On 10/06/11 13:54, Michael Scherer wrote: >>> Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 14:21 +0200, Oliver Burger a écrit : Thomas Backlund schrieb am 10.06.2011 > So the path would then be */updates_testing -> */

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Ahmad Samir at 10/06/11 17:01 did gyre and gimble: > On 10 June 2011 17:56, Liam R E Quin wrote: >> On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 17:34 +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: >>> If people are using a system with gnome >>> installed to develop gnome, it's not strange they run into problems.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 10 June 2011 16:46, James Kerr wrote: > On 10/06/11 15:27, Oliver Burger wrote: >> >> James Kerr  schrieb am 10.06.2011 >>> >>> Even though backports are disabled rpmdrake can display a list of >>> available backports. (The sources are automatically updated by >>> mgaonline.) >> >> I make you p

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport? (was: Finalizing update process)

2011-06-10 Thread nicolas vigier
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Michael Scherer wrote: > > release is obviously frozen so no go there. > > > > The only real option is updates, but that should obviously have some QA > > on it. > > Updates is not for new version of software, not for new softwares. And > backporting something from cauldron

[Mageia-dev] GNOME 2.32 borked

2011-06-10 Thread Frank Griffin
Just updated and rebooted a system which was last rebooted Jun 7, and both GDM and KDM fail to log into my GNOME DE with a greyish popup saying "failed to load your GNOME session". /var/log/gdm/0.log shows a segfault backtrace in fglrx, but this could be a red herring, since KDE starts fine fo

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 10 June 2011 17:56, Liam R E Quin wrote: > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 17:34 +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: >>  If people are using a system with gnome >> installed to develop gnome, it's not strange they run into problems. > > This is nonsense, sorry.  It's no stranger than a KDE-user wanting to

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 17:34 +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: > If people are using a system with gnome > installed to develop gnome, it's not strange they run into problems. This is nonsense, sorry. It's no stranger than a KDE-user wanting to recompile kwrite or krita. > And I > wonder why

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Olav Vitters wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:35:57PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Olav Vitters wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:15:01PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: Seems some distributions misunderstand the need and changed the w

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Maarten Vanraes
Op vrijdag 10 juni 2011 17:18:54 schreef Michael Scherer: [...] > UI wise, I think it would make sense to have that ( even if a idea is > not sufficient, and we need a patch ) : > > User search for a package, he should see the latest recommended version > ( ie, release/updates ). > > If he say "a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 16:27 +0200, Oliver Burger a écrit : > James Kerr schrieb am 10.06.2011 > > Even though backports are disabled rpmdrake can display a list of > > available backports. (The sources are automatically updated by > > mgaonline.) > I make you parden, but: no! > > When a repo

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 - Improving educational programs

2011-06-10 Thread Angelo Naselli
venerdì 10 giugno 2011 alle 14:29, Daniel Kreuter ha scritto: > To run the educational programs even on new hardware and on old ones, i > would propose not to choose kde or gnome. XFCE or LXDE would be a better > choice i think. But it's only my point of view. That's the idea. I started build a lxd

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:35:57PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Olav Vitters wrote: > > >On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:15:01PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: > >>>https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/RemovingLaFiles > >> > >>"... but the dirty hacks that jhbuild plays ..."

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 10/06/11 13:51 did gyre and gimble: > Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 11:44 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit : >> So the user that just wants to install supybot has to expose themselves >> to the risk of updating to a backported version of gnome or KDE this >> is ha

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread James Kerr
On 10/06/11 15:27, Oliver Burger wrote: James Kerr schrieb am 10.06.2011 Even though backports are disabled rpmdrake can display a list of available backports. (The sources are automatically updated by mgaonline.) I make you parden, but: no! When a repo is disabled it doesn't get updated auto

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Olav Vitters wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:15:01PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/RemovingLaFiles "... but the dirty hacks that jhbuild plays ..." Problems with dirty hacks are NOT a valid reason to remove libtool convenience libr

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Thorsten van Lil
Am 10.06.2011 16:09, schrieb James Kerr: On 10/06/11 13:54, Michael Scherer wrote: Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 14:21 +0200, Oliver Burger a écrit : Thomas Backlund schrieb am 10.06.2011 So the path would then be */updates_testing -> */updates _if_ we decide that's the way to go... As I see it,

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Oliver Burger
James Kerr schrieb am 10.06.2011 > Even though backports are disabled rpmdrake can display a list of > available backports. (The sources are automatically updated by > mgaonline.) I make you parden, but: no! When a repo is disabled it doesn't get updated automatically and its packages are not to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread James Kerr
On 10/06/11 15:09, James Kerr wrote: On 10/06/11 13:54, Michael Scherer wrote: Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 14:21 +0200, Oliver Burger a écrit : Thomas Backlund schrieb am 10.06.2011 So the path would then be */updates_testing -> */updates _if_ we decide that's the way to go... As I see it, it'

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:15:01PM +0200, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: > >https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/RemovingLaFiles > > "... but the dirty hacks that jhbuild plays ..." > > Problems with dirty hacks are NOT a valid reason to remove libtool > convenience libraries aka .la files. Seems you s

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Christiaan Welvaart
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Olav Vitters wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:41:46PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 03:47 +0300, Ahmad Samir a écrit : On 9 June 2011 19:35, Dexter Morgan wrote: Hello, as other distributions we started to remove .la files from mageia during

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread James Kerr
On 10/06/11 13:54, Michael Scherer wrote: Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 14:21 +0200, Oliver Burger a écrit : Thomas Backlund schrieb am 10.06.2011 So the path would then be */updates_testing -> */updates _if_ we decide that's the way to go... As I see it, it's the only user friendly way. Using

Re: [Mageia-dev] get-skype package for submission

2011-06-10 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2011-06-09 19:56, Barry Jackson a écrit : I have been working on a package to install Skype current stable release and now feel that it is ready for submission for approval. It has already been improved/corrected/adapted many times following discussions on #mageia-mentoring where I have been

Re: [Mageia-dev] Supybot rpms rebuilt on mageia

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 09 juin 2011 à 15:40 -0400, Lee a écrit : > I was asked to look into supybot and meetbot to work on patches an > fixes. First things first I had to rebuild rpms for my mageia 1 system > (i586). I built the following from src rpms: > > supybot-0.83.4.1-1.mga1.noarch.rpm > supybot-Dcc-0.8

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 03:17:10PM +0200, Dexter Morgan wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 02:59:58PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > >> My main issue is more that not everything is finished ( like I miss the > >> timezone clock stuff to see w

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 02:59:58PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: >> My main issue is more that not everything is finished ( like I miss the >> timezone clock stuff to see when to call on USAs and rest of Europa ) > > That's planned for 3.2 btw

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 02:59:58PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > My main issue is more that not everything is finished ( like I miss the > timezone clock stuff to see when to call on USAs and rest of Europa ) That's planned for 3.2 btw. -- Regards, Olav

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 14:12 +0200, Dexter Morgan a écrit : > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > > i will try a new way to remove them and btw we maybe should add a > rpmlint reject to reject packages with la files inside . but not yet > as we may need to still build some

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 07:20 -0400, Frank Griffin a écrit : > On 06/10/2011 06:46 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: > > While I have no issue with gnome-shell, I have read enough reports of > > people not happy with it to know we would head to a 2nd kde 4.0 story. > > So maybe we could start to learn

[Mageia-dev] perl 5.14.0 should arrive soon

2011-06-10 Thread Jerome Quelin
hi, perl 5.14.0 should arrive soon. it compiles fine on both i586 & x86_64, and it seem we fixed the only problem arisen in perl-URPM. since other packages need to be rebuilt in the same loop, and given that urpmi is written in perl, it needs a special treatment to bypass the regular bs upload.

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 14:21 +0200, Oliver Burger a écrit : > Thomas Backlund schrieb am 10.06.2011 > > So the path would then be */updates_testing -> */updates _if_ we > > decide that's the way to go... > As I see it, it's the only user friendly way. Using backports is fine > for experienced

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 11:44 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit : > 'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 10/06/11 11:27 did gyre and gimble: > > Le jeudi 09 juin 2011 à 10:14 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit : > >> Hi, > >> > >> As I upgrade my various machines (I only really have about 5, so not > >> t

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread JA Magallón
On 2011.06.10, at 14:16, Frank Griffin wrote: > On 06/10/2011 07:44 AM, Dexter Morgan wrote: >> maybe 1 wait to have gnome 3 and then speak about gnome2 > > Could you post here when all of the GNOME3 packages are in Cauldron ? And perhaps build a task-gnome rpm, so we can get all the dependenci

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 - Improving educational programs

2011-06-10 Thread Daniel Kreuter
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Angelo Naselli wrote: > Hi Stefano, > > I think is a good task and I will help Angelo. > Thanks. > > > First we need to discuss if develop under KDE or also Gnome (2), taking > into > > consideration also the old hardware on which usually it's installed. > Well I

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Oliver Burger
Thomas Backlund schrieb am 10.06.2011 > So the path would then be */updates_testing -> */updates _if_ we > decide that's the way to go... As I see it, it's the only user friendly way. Using backports is fine for experienced users who do know what to install from backports or who are capable of f

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/10/2011 07:39 AM, Kira wrote: > In the past time, there's KDE3 and KDE4 co-exist together in the > repository, > > maybe we can do it again? > Good idea. I'm not much of a KDE user, but I noticed that the DMs offered both KDE3 and 4, which seems like a very easy way to switch back and forth

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/10/2011 07:44 AM, Dexter Morgan wrote: maybe 1 wait to have gnome 3 and then speak about gnome2 Could you post here when all of the GNOME3 packages are in Cauldron ?

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:41:46PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: >> Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 03:47 +0300, Ahmad Samir a écrit : >> > On 9 June 2011 19:35, Dexter Morgan wrote: >> > > Hello, >> > > >> > > as other distributions we started to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Thomas Backlund
Wolfgang Bornath skrev 10.6.2011 14:44: 2011/6/10 Michael Scherer: We have used backports in the past for that, and I see no reason to change that. If the problem is that backports were too buggy in the past, then we should fix backports process, not bypassing them. And if we start by pushing

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/6/10 Michael Scherer : > Le jeudi 09 juin 2011 à 10:49 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit : >> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 09/06/11 10:25 did gyre and gimble: >> > 2011/6/9 JA Magallón : >> >> >> >> No need, Cauldron is Cauldron. The only strange thing is that I had >> >> heard on other t

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Olav Vitters
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:41:46PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: > Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 03:47 +0300, Ahmad Samir a écrit : > > On 9 June 2011 19:35, Dexter Morgan wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > as other distributions we started to remove .la files from mageia > > > during mageia 1 developme

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport? (was: Finalizing update process)

2011-06-10 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
2011/6/10 Michael Scherer : > > We have used backports in the past for that, and I see no reason to > change that. > > If the problem is that backports were too buggy in the past, then we > should fix backports process, not bypassing them. > > And if we start by pushing new version in update, peopl

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Dexter Morgan
2011/6/10 Kira : > 在 Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:20:41 +0800, Frank Griffin 寫道: > >> On 06/10/2011 06:46 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: >>> >>> While I have no issue with gnome-shell, I have read enough reports of >>> people not happy with it to know we would head to a 2nd kde 4.0 story. >>> So maybe we could

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Kira
在 Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:20:41 +0800, Frank Griffin 寫道: On 06/10/2011 06:46 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: While I have no issue with gnome-shell, I have read enough reports of people not happy with it to know we would head to a 2nd kde 4.0 story. So maybe we could start to learn from the past and dis

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Frank Griffin
On 06/10/2011 06:46 AM, Michael Scherer wrote: While I have no issue with gnome-shell, I have read enough reports of people not happy with it to know we would head to a 2nd kde 4.0 story. So maybe we could start to learn from the past and discuss with users to explain the update, see why they do

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Colin Guthrie
[Didn't finish this sentence] 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 10/06/11 11:44 did gyre and gimble: > I don't think this is particularly relevant. Backports are unsupported > generally. That's a given. If we encourage people to enable backports to > get missing packages (this is very distinct an

Re: [Mageia-dev] Problems with Gnome 3

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 09 juin 2011 à 10:49 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit : > 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 09/06/11 10:25 did gyre and gimble: > > 2011/6/9 JA Magallón : > >> > >> No need, Cauldron is Cauldron. The only strange thing is that I had > >> heard on other threads that update to Gnome 3 was b

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 10/06/11 11:27 did gyre and gimble: > Le jeudi 09 juin 2011 à 10:14 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> As I upgrade my various machines (I only really have about 5, so not >> that many) I'm running into a few packages that are missing (this is >> inevi

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RFC] Removing .la files

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 03:47 +0300, Ahmad Samir a écrit : > On 9 June 2011 19:35, Dexter Morgan wrote: > > Hello, > > > > as other distributions we started to remove .la files from mageia > > during mageia 1 development. Could you explain the rational of removing them ? AFAIK, the .la remova

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 - Improving educational programs

2011-06-10 Thread Angelo Naselli
venerdì 10 giugno 2011 alle 11:44, Pierre Jarillon ha scritto: > Le jeudi 9 juin 2011 23:28:45, Angelo Naselli a écrit : > > i'd like to add an item to mageia 2 specification, e.g. > > improving the educational part. (Already added into wiki) > > Do you know http://www.abuledu.org/en/accueil ? > T

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 10/06/11 11:29 did gyre and gimble: > Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 09:56 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit : >> 'Twas brillig, and Ahmad Samir at 09/06/11 17:42 did gyre and gimble: > >>> But if new package can go directly to updates.. that doesn't look >>> right to

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Scherer
Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 à 09:56 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit : > 'Twas brillig, and Ahmad Samir at 09/06/11 17:42 did gyre and gimble: > > But if new package can go directly to updates.. that doesn't look > > right to me, because at which point will "new" packages stop going to > > a stable relea

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport? (was: Finalizing update process)

2011-06-10 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 09 juin 2011 à 10:14 +0100, Colin Guthrie a écrit : > Hi, > > As I upgrade my various machines (I only really have about 5, so not > that many) I'm running into a few packages that are missing (this is > inevitable). > > Nothing major just little things like trac and supybot etc. > > Wh

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Samuel Verschelde
Le vendredi 10 juin 2011 10:56:35, Colin Guthrie a écrit : > 'Twas brillig, and Ahmad Samir at 09/06/11 17:42 did gyre and gimble: > > On 9 June 2011 14:22, Oliver Burger wrote: > >> Dexter Morgan schrieb am 09.06.2011 > >> > >>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Colin Guthrie > >>> > >>> wrot

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 - Improving educational programs

2011-06-10 Thread Pierre Jarillon
Le jeudi 9 juin 2011 23:28:45, Angelo Naselli a écrit : > i'd like to add an item to mageia 2 specification, e.g. > improving the educational part. (Already added into wiki) Do you know http://www.abuledu.org/en/accueil ? This is a free/libre project created in 1999 and very dynamic. Ryxeo offers

Re: [Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

2011-06-10 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Ahmad Samir at 09/06/11 17:42 did gyre and gimble: > On 9 June 2011 14:22, Oliver Burger wrote: >> Dexter Morgan schrieb am 09.06.2011 >> >>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Colin Guthrie >>> wrote: >> I think updates would be the right place. >> >>> >> >>> Please no 3rd

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 - Improving educational programs

2011-06-10 Thread Angelo Naselli
venerdì 10 giugno 2011 alle 10:26, Oliver Burger ha scritto: > Last year at some German linux event I was talking with a guy from > Seminarix, a project providing a Sidux/Aptosid based distro for > teachers-to-be. > So we could take their software collection as an example and look > what's left

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 - Improving educational programs

2011-06-10 Thread Oliver Burger
Dexter Morgan schrieb am 10.06.2011 > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Angelo Naselli wrote: > >> WDYT? > > > > I'd add that this task could be a good start for padawans, well i > > could try to mentor someone here :) ... easier if we're going to > > be a team in this task (if dmorgan agrees a

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 - Improving educational programs

2011-06-10 Thread Angelo Naselli
Hi Stefano, > I think is a good task and I will help Angelo. Thanks. > First we need to discuss if develop under KDE or also Gnome (2), taking into > consideration also the old hardware on which usually it's installed. Well I know you and probably what you mean... but it's really hard to understa

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 - Improving educational programs

2011-06-10 Thread Dexter Morgan
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Angelo Naselli wrote: >> WDYT? > > I'd add that this task could be a good start for padawans, well i could > try to mentor someone here :) ... easier if we're going to be a team > in this task (if dmorgan agrees and joins me/us :p ) Yes of course :)

Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 - Improving educational programs

2011-06-10 Thread Angelo Naselli
> WDYT? I'd add that this task could be a good start for padawans, well i could try to mentor someone here :) ... easier if we're going to be a team in this task (if dmorgan agrees and joins me/us :p ) Angelo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release gecko-mediaplayer-1.0.3-1.mga2

2011-06-10 Thread Dick Gevers
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 06:23:23 +0300, Ahmad Samir wrote about Re: [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release gecko-mediaplayer-1.0.3-1.mga2: >gecko-mediaplayer requires a newer gnome-mplayer >http://code.google.com/p/gecko-mediaplayer/issues/detail?id=131 > >gnome-mplayer-1.0.3 should be on the mirror