Re: [Mailman-Developers] Setting up a VM.

Hi Peter, Sorry about not getting back to you earlier; I'm the org admin for the PSF for the first time this year, and in case that wasn't enough, we've grown considerably and I've got a huge amount of email. Thanks for pinging me off-list to let me know I missed this one once you figured ou

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2013 - GNU Mailman - Introduction and Project Discussion

On 13-04-11 10:44 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: 1. Mailman is the wrong place to do filtering. It's equally effective, normally covers more messages, and is somewhat more efficient in resource usage to do it at the MTA. 2. Any new algorithms*should* be made available at the MTA lev

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman not in GSOC'13 accepted organization

Just like last year, Mailman's going to be participating as a sub-organization under the Python Software Foundation. Unfortunately, this means that our name doesn't show up directly on the org list -- you'll need to click through from python to find us. I'm going to set up some tags so the su

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC 2013 - Introduction and Project Discussion

On 13-04-08 5:27 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Pierre-Yves Chibon writes: > On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 15:03 +0530, Udit Saxena wrote: > > 2. Web Posting Interface. > > Isn't this similar/overlapping to what HyperKitty already does? No. There's no reason why a web posting interface needs to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Like to participate in GSOC 2013 (GNU Mailman) - Like some ideas proposed in the list (Django, Python)

On 13-04-08 10:19 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: The thing about Windows is that we're using several *nix-isms in process management and possibly in other places. I have no burning desire to try to make these Windows compatible. I'll bet the documentation would bite us pretty badly, too. While I do

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [GSOC 2013] Introduction and Ideas

On 13-04-07 3:47 AM, Karthikeya Viswanath wrote: I also have a couple of ideas of my own, and I'd like to see how feasible they are. 1. Tags: Could we have tags for mails so we could get an idea for what the mail is about at a glance? This could also help in the metrics and also in spam reductio

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code'13 introduction

On 13-04-07 1:46 AM, Avik Pal wrote: I have been going through the links given in the mailman developers' page and documentations here and there, maybe you can help me with some useful resources so that right away I can start contributing by fixing small bugs and in this way sharpen my skills be

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSOC 2013 - Introduction and Project Discussion

On 13-04-06 3:33 AM, Udit Saxena wrote: 1. Authenticated REST-API in Postorius/Django 2. Web Posting Interface. And OpenPGP integration is something I would really interested in learning about but have no prior experience or knowledge about how to go about it. Can you guys guide me to someone

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Like to participate in GSOC 2013 (GNU Mailman) - Like some ideas proposed in the list (Django, Python)

On 13-04-07 8:00 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: This would solve the environment problem for students! Dunno if it's strictly better than an AWS instance, but I bet many would prefer it. I *do* have an older fedora vm set up for postorius work, which can be run from vmware on windows. It has

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Like to participate in GSOC 2013 (GNU Mailman) - Like some ideas proposed in the list (Django, Python)

Hi Surya! On 04/01/2013 09:00 AM, Surya Kasturi wrote: I have gone through the proposed ideas http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Google+Summer+of+Code+2013 and found some of them to be interesting.. 1. RSS and NNTP access to mailman services 2. Authentication of REST API in Postorius/Django 3. Fu

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Interested in GSoC 2013

If you're looking for suggestions, I'd suggest you focus on the anti-spam stuff. We've all gotten pretty hooked on Mozilla Persona for authentication, to the point where we may not bother with other authentication methods in the early releases, so the spam stuff is much more likely to be usefu

[Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2013 ideas page updates

Just FYI: I've linked Mailman from the PSF GSoC 2013 page here: http://wiki.python.org/moin/SummerOfCode/2013 I don't know that it'll result in us attracting more students just yet (again, org applications don't open 'till March 18th) but if it seems like there's a small surge after this weeke

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Wiki Migration Update

On 03/07/2013 02:58 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: So, to follow up on this, I have updated the snapshot of migrated data: http://mmwiki.boddie.org.uk/ Looking great, Paul! One possible item of concern is the way code snippets look here: http://mmwiki.boddie.org.uk/DEV/A%205%20Minute%20Guide%20to%20G

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 and New Lists (Templates for Defining?)

On 13-03-06 6:11 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Terri Oda writes: > > On 13-03-05 8:28 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > OTOH, would it really be that burdensome to keep styles in the > > database and allow styles to be updated with appropriate effects on >

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 and New Lists (Templates for Defining?)

On 13-03-05 8:28 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: OTOH, would it really be that burdensome to keep styles in the database and allow styles to be updated with appropriate effects on the lists? A style *change* that could be applied domain-wide (and DRY-ly!) without affecting other domains on that

Re: [Mailman-Developers] background on maintaining the documentation (was RE: Mailman-Developers Digest, Vol 286, Issue 9)

On 13-02-27 12:33 PM, Chris Cargile wrote: the Moin system will get us away from the Atlassian licensing hassle AND would tie in great for enabling a new website for the MM3 release, Um... Chris, you do realize that we're experience software developers working on a project under the banner of t

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman-Developers Digest, Vol 286, Issue 7

On 02/26/2013 08:23 AM, Chris Cargile wrote: At minimum, I think it is important to get confirmation whether the confluence snapshot (wiki.list.org) is just a snapshot and we can direct our efforts at updating the documentation there? also, on that note, what would be the sphinx documentation rol

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Wiki Migration Update

On 13-02-25 11:26 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Feb 25, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Paul Boddie wrote: I'll send another update soon. Thanks for being patient! Thanks for the update Paul! Will you be at Pycon? Thanks from me too, Paul! The wiki was driving me up the wall when I was doing the GSoC e

[Mailman-Developers] Changes to on-line documentation ( was Re: (no subject) )

First: Sandesh, could you start using relevant subject lines on your emails? Posting once with no subject looks like a mistake, but posting repeatedly with no subject is terrible mailing list etiquette and looks particularly bad when you're hoping to work with people who develop mailing list s

Re: [Mailman-Developers] gsoc 2013 guidance

On 13-02-19 9:32 AM, mayank bhola wrote: I would like to contribute to mailman for gsoc 2013 , please guide me for the same on which type of skills we need to have and show along with proposal and other details I've been getting lots of questions from prospective students, so I put together a pa

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2013 ideas page

Before I answer anything: Chris, I noticed you've only just signed up for the wiki, so I've granted you editor access now. If you were wondering why there was no edit button before, now you know! On 02/17/2013 07:13 AM, Chris Cargile wrote: on the matter of having a test-environment image for

Re: [Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2013 ideas page

First up, you're a bit early: we haven't even *applied* to be part of GSoC, let alone been accepted, and we're still at the point of trying to figure out what projects are feasible and what ones we have the necessary mentors for. So what I'd suggest for you right now: (1) Give us a week or tw

[Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2013 ideas page

I've set up an ideas page for Mailman in GSoC 2013: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Google+Summer+of+Code+2013 Right now it's seeded with some particularly clearly-defined ideas I received by email, but more ideas are better, so please feel free to add things or modify the page (or argue abou

[Mailman-Developers] PyCon US 2013 sprint wiki page

Since I was already poking around in the wiki today, I set up a page for the PyCon 2013 sprint next month. I'm claiming that Barry and Florian are coming 'cause I'm pretty sure they said they were, but if the rest of you would like to announce your attendance or start suggesting things we shou

Re: [Mailman-Developers] HyperKitty : VCS change

On 01/09/2013 07:46 AM, Aurelien Bompard wrote: I'm trying to bring back some coherence into this, and considering switching all the components to Git on fedorahosted.org. The reason for this choice is that me and the other two most frequent contributors are much more skilled with git than with b

[Mailman-Developers] Starting prep for GSoC 2013

Happy new year, all! Although this year's GSoC hasn't actually been announced yet, now's a good time for us to start figuring out what we as an organization want to do. So here's some questions to get us started: (a) Who would like to mentor for GSoC 2013? I'm hoping all of you who particip

[Mailman-Developers] Mailman will be sprinting at PyCon US 2013 -- Join us!

For anyone who was wondering, yes, Mailman is planning to be sprinting at PyCon US 2013. I know Barry, Florian, Mark and I say we're going, and I'm sure more people will speak up as they figure out their schedules. PyCon US 2013 is March 13-21 in Santa Clara https://us.pycon.org/2013/ I know

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Wiki woes

On 12-12-13 1:48 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: I actually don't think it would be hard to migrate the XHTML-like content, but if the bulk of the content is more readily translated, then we can avoid a lot of work. I'm making dumps of all the confluence spaces we've got (You can't dump the whole wik

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Reminder: Mailman/Postorius/Hyperkitty hackathon

On 12-12-14 3:09 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Dec 14, 2012, at 07:04 PM, Florian Fuchs wrote: this is just a quick reminder that we're having another virtual hackathon tomorrow! Personally, I'll probably start hanging around on #mailman on freenode around 13:00-ish (UTC). Hope to see you tomorro

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Wiki woes

On 12/10/2012 12:37 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: On Dec 10, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Terri Oda wrote: Don't forget that we have a support contract with the hosting provider under our open source license. I think you've been CC'd on some of the previous emails, but if you have any questi

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Using bracketed prefixes in subject as filters

On 11/23/2012 01:55 PM, Gordon P. Hemsley wrote: I filed a request for enhancement about using bracketed prefixes in subjects as filters: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1082495 Barry mentioned that I should raise the issue with regard to the dlist discussion, I presume because my propo

[Mailman-Developers] Wiki woes

I think in the latest wiki update I seem to have lost the ability to turn off rich text editing, and as a result it's nigh impossible for me to cut and paste some types of content from one page to another. Also, some pages are now missing content (specifically, anything marked as a code snippe

Re: [Mailman-Developers] New to mailman

On 12/10/2012 10:51 AM, Sandesh Agrawal wrote: Hey Terri, i would really like to make a written transcript while i learn about the architecture. Writing them as soon as i learn would be much easier, for that i would require the write access to wiki. I created my launchpad account with email id:

Re: [Mailman-Developers] New to mailman

On 12/10/2012 09:48 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: You might also be interested in this talk I gave at Pycon 2012. http://pyvideo.org/video/688/mailman-3 BTW, if someone would like to make a really valuable contribution to Mailman *while* they're learning a bit about the architecture, we could real

[Mailman-Developers] Dec 15th Mailman/Postorius/Hyperkitty hackathon

Well, our last online hackathon was sufficiently fun that Florian and I think we should do it again. So... You're all cordially invited to join us on #mailman on freenode on Saturday Dec 15th to do some Mailman-related hacking, project planning, and maybe some task creation for GSoC 2013. I'

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3: dlist integration

On 12-11-11 6:31 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: How is the new name determined? With Systers' current setup, I believe it takes the largest word in the title (skipping obvious stop words) and adds a 3 digit number if necessary. There might be some truncation if the word is super long and so

[Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3: dlist integration

I suspect the person to answer this is Barry, but I'm sending to the developers list just in case. I'm working through getting dynamic sublists (dlists) integrated into Mailman 3 (probably targeting the 3.1 release) and I've got a question: where should the thread name be stored? Does that go

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Listadmin and other alternate interfaces for Mailman

On 12-10-26 12:29 AM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: first of all: I don't consider listadmin a contradiction to postorious. Me neither, don't worry, but it's always good to learn from the way other people like to use a system. That doesn't mean "we need to do all of this too! in this way!" so

[Mailman-Developers] Listadmin and other alternate interfaces for Mailman

Since I now treat every gathering of hackers as an excuse to get people to tell me things about Mailman, I was chatting with folk at the GSoC mentor summit and my friend V was telling me that she really likes Listadmin as a nicer interface to Mailman: http://freecode.com/projects/listadmin Se

[Mailman-Developers] GHC 12 Open Source Day was amazing!

A very quick report: We had our post-GHC12 hackathon today and I think we were wildly successful. I didn't sit down and count, but we had around 15 women, most new contributors, hacking on Postorius/Mailman today. We stomped on a bunch of the specially-marked bugs, and just as vitally, we had

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Postorius: Missing Features (Draft)

I think I've just stuck all of Florian's missing features into the postorius bug database. I'm doing a bit of triaging on the bug list in preparation for next week's GHC12 hackathon. This includes tagging a few bugs as beginner-friendly: https://bugs.launchpad.net/postorius/+bugs?field.tag=

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Unforeseen difficulties with the Mailman logo

e: I am very definitely graphics challenged, but I'm CC'ing Andrija, the artist who generated the original logo. Maybe he has some ideas about adjusting the images for these buttons (which is a great idea, btw!). Cheers, -Barry On Sep 26, 2012, at 02:25 AM, Terri Oda wrote: So, I

[Mailman-Developers] Unforeseen difficulties with the Mailman logo

So, I'm having a bit of trouble with the Mailman logo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/terrio/8025917889/in/photostream The problem being that the delicate lines pretty much just don't show up when I try to print it in button size. I don't suppose anyone here has some hidden graphics-fu and coul

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Getting to Mailman 3.0 final

On 12-09-17 11:39 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Terri Oda writes: > That said, I'm tentatively planning a personal postorious hackathon all > day Saturday the 22nd. If anyone wants to join me, I'll be on #mailman > on freenode! I don't think I can join but ma

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Getting to Mailman 3.0 final

On 12-09-17 1:12 PM, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: I think if we release MM3 without 'a frontend' we will miss people's expectation to get a feature complete MLM - which includes a frontend in most peoples opinion I guess. I do think that if we release them separately, we'll have to be very clear

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Getting to Mailman 3.0 final

Oh, hey, this reminds me... As I've mentioned before, I'm interested in seeing dynamic sublists replace topics in Mailman 3.0. We've got a student working on the port, but honestly he's been dragging his heels and I'm starting to doubt it's going to be done by the end of September. What do

Re: [Mailman-Developers] 3.0.0b1 fails bootstrap.py on Mountain Lion

I haven't upgraded to Mountain Lion yet myself so I can't test, but if it's helpful, I can at least confirm that I did a new install on Lion about two weeks ago and it worked, so it's probably something specific to Mountain Lion or your machine's setup, not a problem with macos more generally.

Re: [Mailman-Developers] status of mailman 3.0 web stuff

Yeay! In addition to what Barry said (join Postorious!) I just want to say I'm really excited to see you back. :) More specifically, though, I think a good first step with Postorious for you would be to take a look at the current roadmap for alpha2: https://launchpad.net/postorius/+mileston

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Login / User Identification Issues in MM3

On 12-07-10 11:12 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: But isn't that going to take us a long way down the road where we anoint Postorius the one-and-only admin interface? If that really needs to be, OK, but I don't much like it. Among other things, it will make the design and detailed UI of Postoriu

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman3 instance for preview + exploration

How hard is it for us to make a nicer, more helpful error page for this? I'm guessing it's going to be a common problem when more people start running the two together. (I know, I know, I should know the answer and be able to write the solution myself, but my django-fu isn't quite up to speed

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Questions in regard to the database operations

On 07/02/2012 02:39 PM, Danci Emanuel wrote: In regard to the Postorius option, has this already been implemented (is there a box where the user can insert additional email addresses)? I am asking this because so far I have worked with the rudimentary version (the test server set up using the 5

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Fwd: Mailman GSoC Status report due; code checkin due

On 06/04/2012 02:50 PM, Terri Oda wrote: I failed to bcc all of you on this, so here's the message I sent to Aamir, just for the record. Whoops, that was just supposed to go to this year's GSoC mentors. Sorry for the intrusion, the rest of you

[Mailman-Developers] Fwd: Mailman GSoC Status report due; code checkin due

I failed to bcc all of you on this, so here's the message I sent to Aamir, just for the record. Original Message Subject: Mailman GSoC Status report due; code checkin due Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:24:16 -0600 From: Terri Oda To: Aamir Khan Hi Aamir! How's GSoC

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Speaking about kitties (or archivers)

On 05/31/2012 11:28 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Wacky looked at this today and asked if we should have the x-message-id-hash as another key value to look up an email. That seems proper to me. Would we want a separate function or to overload get_email() so that it can either take message_id or me

Re: [Mailman-Developers] HyperKitty login

On 05/29/2012 10:37 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: N.B. George is generally copying his blog post to this list. That's OK if you want to do it, but IMO not necessary. (But that's something we will evolve over time, and I defer to Terri's opinion on this kind of thing. This is all just a sugges

[Mailman-Developers] GSoC Status Reports for week 1 due, code expected starting June 4th

For those of you who don't keep track, our GSoC students officially started coding on May 21st, so today marks their second week (except for George, who started early). I hope you've all gotten settled in and are getting down to work! I've got two things I need from all of the GSoC students:

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [GSoC 2012] Metrics

On 12-05-04 3:17 PM, Geoff Shang wrote: I would just like to restate my plea for the ability to manage Mailman without needing javascript. Note that I'm not saying don't use any, I'm merely asking for it to be possible to use without it. This is totally a reasonable request, but I'd like to p

[Mailman-Developers] Congratulations to our GSoC Students!

The announcement from Google went out on Monday, so I'm a bit slow, but I'd like to congratulate the three students who will be working with GNU Mailman as part of Google Summer of Code 2012: Aamir Khan will be working on improving Hyperkitty. Alexander Sulfrian will be working on NNTP access

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [Bug 985149] Add List-Post value to permalink hash input

On 12-04-20 11:09 AM, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: On Apr 20, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: I think the hash value should be opaque. Jeff can perhaps elaborate his use-case but I don't think the List-ID needs to be (or frankly *should* be) extractable from the hash, but instead just n

[Mailman-Developers] Reminder: Get those GSoC proposals in!

Just a reminder: GSoC proposals are due April 6th! The Melange system sometimes has problems on the day that things are due, so if you can get something into the Melange system now, even if it's just a draft, please do so. Google will not extend the deadline for any reason under any circumsta

Re: [Mailman-Developers] From the creation of a ThreadID

I haven't read the whole thread so maybe someone else has mentioned this, but we may want to take advantage of the dynamic sublists code for this, since it produces "conversations" or "topics" sublists and already has to generate and maintain a code for each. Rather than messageids these are m

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

On 12-04-03 11:08 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: So David's program can't be *part* of GNU Mailman without special permission, which I doubt the GNU Project (ie, RMS, AFAIK) will grant (and would require delicate negotations in extreme good humor on our part, based on past experience trying to

Re: [Mailman-Developers] [GSoC 2012] Candidate on 'Integration of (existing) search code into Mailman archives'

Hi George, Your MailmanStats project looks great and would totally fit with what we have in mind for stats, though I'm guessing the hyperkitty team has some much more extensive work in mind making use of post ratings, tags, etc. If you're putting together your proposal now, do feel free to me

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

On 03/29/2012 11:58 PM, Shayan Md wrote: Okay then, can you please tell me how we can put this search code in best use of mailman3? I have a proposal to write, I am getting unsure of things day by day. Can you also tell me who is the mentor of this project? When it comes to writing your proposa

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman / archive-ui / licensing questions

On 03/29/2012 02:27 PM, David Jeske wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Stephen J. Turnbullwrote: I would say you should try to retain copyright, and have the Mailman project distribute it with the S-BSD license under the "mere aggregation" clause of the GPL. This agrees with my view of the

[Mailman-Developers] For prospective GSoC students

Some things you should know: 1. Mailman is working under the umbrella organization of the Python Software Foundation, so we get hundreds of applications to sort through not all of which are related to Mailman. Please make sure to put "Mailman" somewhere in the subject of your application so i

Re: [Mailman-Developers] RELEASED: GNU Mailman 3.0 beta 1 and Postorius 1.0 alpha 1

On 03/29/2012 02:51 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: Okay. I have to figure out why the consensus is that I am running django 1.4 while I actually installed 1.3.1: Just for the record, the reason we suspect Django 1.4 conflicts is that the link you posted with the errors

[Mailman-Developers] Additional Mailman GSoC mentors

It's looking like we're going to have more student applicants than in previous years, so I think it'd be great if we could get a few more mentors to match. If you're a semi-active mailman developer (i.e. I'm going to recognize your name from your mailman-developers postings) and you think you

[Mailman-Developers] GSoC Mailman and Systers (was Re: GSoC)

On 12-03-28 7:49 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Hey, welcome, Ana! I suspect that the Systers organization has moved on, since their specific needs were satisfied AFAIK. But they have some really good people (both as engineers and as human beings), so please do get in touch with them (especia

Re: [Mailman-Developers] any interest in a new built-in web-archive? (i.e. pipermail replacement)

On 03/26/2012 11:37 PM, David Jeske wrote: CSLA doesn't currently have any concept server-auth. The only stateful features it has are view-preferences and read-state, neither of which are important enough to require a password. It uses a password-less system which uses cookies for prefs and a 're

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Google Summer of Code: Integration of Search Code

On 03/27/2012 03:31 AM, Shayan Md wrote: I was working on mm3. But systers' indexer/searcher was implemented for mailman2. So it must be easy for to integrate it with mm2. Actually, the systers indexer was designed to work with mboxes (because I had a pile of data in that format that the stud

[Mailman-Developers] VM for Mailman development

On 03/19/2012 03:14 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: At this point, I don't know whether the best approach is look for a more complete development box for Vagrant or figure out how to provision the basic Vagrant box with what I need or forget Vagrant and install directly in VirtualBox or go with a dual-boo

[Mailman-Developers] GSoC 2012

So, GSoC applications have opened... so I've started a wiki page for us to capture project ideas as we get them formed: http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Google+Summer+of+Code+2012 One of the things I'd like to see is getting a student to move forwards with integrating BrowserID into Mailman, w

Re: [Mailman-Developers] feature request: one-click setting to preserve DKIM

On 12/06/11 11:17, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: It depends on your expectations. If there's an expectation that the author's signature will/should/must persist through a mailing list, then I agree that they're largely incompatible. If on the other hand you intend for lists to re-sign mail and

Re: [Mailman-Developers] feature request: one-click setting to preserve DKIM

On 11-12-05 11:58 AM, Monica Chew wrote: Terri and Florian, is this something that the webui group would be interested in working on? We have a significant complexity problem already in the admin interface. If this is really just a matter of two settings (subject tagging and unsubscribe foot

[Mailman-Developers] GHC11 open source day

GHC11 included an open source hackathon on Saturday, and I was lucky enough to find some great people who spent the day helping with usability testing and interface mockups for Mailman. We focused a bunch on the admin interfaces, which (unlike the archives and the member options pages) haven't

[Mailman-Developers] Topics/sublists (was Re: Mailman headers roundup)

On 11-11-02 7:26 AM, William Bagwell wrote: Many people (including more than a few list owners) have problems with Topics and using them correctly and efficiently. Can proved examples / statistics if anyone wants? Oddly, I personally have never seen a technical list that uses Topics. Have been gr

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Fw: [uds-announce] Design Theater Design sessions at UDS

Anything they can do with mm2 archives will help us make the mm3 ones better! I'd say they're highest priority since it affects the most people, but I'd also like to see better design applied to our admin pages, which can be quite painful to navigate... On 10/25/11 11:32, Barry Warsaw wrote:

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Documentation location?

Chris Clark wrote: > So.. what should I edit? Short answer: I prefer the wiki, please! Long answer: I used to maintain most of the docs, but a few years back I realised my time was going to be limited for an extended period of time. I didn't want to become a bottleneck to finishing them,

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Documentation location?

Mark Sapiro wrote: Chris Clark wrote I thought I'd make a quick change to the docs on Launchpad. But I do not know where the docs live. . I'm also trying to consolidate more of the documentation so it's availab

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mockup for New Design

Andrew wrote: That sounds good I shall add the mockups to the wiki page (however currently I cannot edit it, does someone need to give me permissions?) Yes, to control wiki spam you have to ask for permission before you can write documents. I've given your account authorial permissions so you

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mockup for New Design

Benedict already gave you a response about the summer of code project in progress... I encourage you to get involved with that! For one, your mockups are certainly pretty and I suspect your design input would be much appreciated for making nicer Mailman themes. However, at a glance I see one

[Mailman-Developers] [GSoC] And they're off!

Our summer of code students officially started coding on Monday, and they're already working hard! Those of you interested in following what they're doing more closely should check out their blogs: * Dushyant's been busy going through last year's use cases and figuring out how to get things

[Mailman-Developers] Welcome to our Google Summer of Code Students!

I hope you'll all join me in welcoming our new Google Summer of Code students: * Benedict Stein (benste on IRC) will be working to complete the GSoC work Anna did last summer on the django-based web UI for Mailman 3.0. * Drew Rodman will be converting pipermail to use SQL (rather than pickle

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Interested Google Summer of Code Student

Nahuel ANGELINETTI wrote: When mailman3 will be released? The snarky answer is "real soon now" ;) We've been in alpha for a while. The proposed Google summer of code project include some things we need before release, including a push on the web interface. Barry can maybe give you a better

[Mailman-Developers] Archives! Two neat demos from my GSoC students

As some of you may know, Mailman had a bunch of Google Summer of Code students working on our codebase via Systers, which hired students to do improvements on their Mailman-based list infrastructure. I was mentoring for the project which worked on the archives, where we had two students, Yian

Re: [Mailman-Developers] styiling the archive

So my question is: "Is possible to add some markup and css to the mailing archive to make it pretty to integrate with the website?" Yes, it's open source so of course it's possible. :) The question is how difficult it is to do. You may have to hack the Python to get it to look the way

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Subscription Authentication.

+1. We were also discussing this at LinuxCon, and OAuth or similar paves the way to some other nice things, like easier single sign on/integrated systems, and an easier way to handle using the archives like a web forum to allow participation by those who prefer that mode of communication. Th

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman user interface: draft of a mega drop-down navigation

Barry Warsaw wrote: While I think we could use some re-evaluations of the categories, presenting them in this way works well I think. I think we won't have such a deep or wide hierarchy that displaying them all will be too confusing. The thing I really like about this is that I can figure out e

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3.0 UI Test Server

Cristóbal Palmer wrote: Basically I want to make sure that the "subscribe" box always shows up above the fold on the listinfo page. I get a fair number of tickets because things are not above the fold. I like the idea in principle, but I don't think it'll work because there's a *lot* of stuff

[Mailman-Developers] Archives work (was Re: UI for Mailman 3.0 update)

Geoff Shang wrote: 1. More useful archives with search capability. I'm sure this is on a dozen wishlists. Oh! If you're not on mailman-users (or just missed the posts) you may not be aware, but we've got 3 GSoC students (again from Systers) working on archives this summer, including search

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman 3 and LMTP

Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: * Barry Warsaw : - send the web interface off to a usability lab +1. IIRC, Terri was going to look into this, but I'm not sure what's happened with that. She did and offered a contact. As soon as the web interface has come to a usable state I will try to set the te

[Mailman-Developers] [Fwd: [Systers-dev] Systers Code Sprint at GHC09 - Logistics Update]

Systers has been doing mailman development as part of their Google Summer of Code work, so I expect there'll be some work on Mailman happening at this sprint. I'm going to go represent Mailman developers as it were, and if any of you are going to be in the Tuscon area next week (even if you're

Re: [Mailman-Developers] a question about documentation

Kārlis Repsons wrote: Hello, could someone let me know about how was mailman-install.pdf manual generated? CC to me... All the pdfs are generated from LaTeX files (.tex) that can be found in the source tree under... uh.. probably doc/ or maybe admin/doc. Look for mailman-install.tex. There

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman 3: webinterface: prototype (PDF)

Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: Can we add a search box for options? It might not be necessary on the smaller pages, but the full admin/owner interface looks like it's still going to be sufficiently busy that it could help. We can. But I, personally, would want to wait for usability test and see

Re: [Mailman-Developers] mailman 3: webinterface: prototype (PDF)

What do you think? Should I comment the navigation structures? I've put a lot of thinking into it and that is, of course, not visible. I could comment and we'd have it easier to see where I think things should be put to. I love how you've put all this thought into a better structure here. But n

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Putting the FAQ link in with error messages?

Barry Warsaw wrote: > This is a very interesting idea. When you say "error messages" do you > mean e.g. Python tracebacks and such? In that case, we may not have to > worry about translators, for example we don't translate log messages. I had tracebacks in mind. If those are the easiest things

[Mailman-Developers] Putting the FAQ link in with error messages?

We often *have* the answers in the FAQ, people aren't always finding them there, often because it hasn't occurred to them to look. I was mentioned this to the last person who I helped with a Mailman problem, and he offered this brilliant suggestion: Why don't we print the FAQ (or at least the

Re: [Mailman-Developers] PyCon 2009 sprint: Webinterface

Mark Sapiro wrote: Barry Warsaw wrote: BTW, has the wiki been slow for anybody else? For me it has sometimes been slow, but not consistently so. Agreed. And it's also been so slow that it's been unusable at times and I've had to just come back later. Terri ___

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Doubt about security

On 2009-Jan-5, at 2:03 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: I suspect the default should be to not expose those things. I wasn't even aware that list creation through the web was possible. Based on the extremely novice questions I see posted to mailman-users on occasion I suspect many potential Mailman

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