Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Todd Zullinger
Brad Knowles wrote: > At 10:20 PM -0500 12/14/06, Todd Zullinger wrote: > >> But what value would MacOSX specific integrations be to the >> Mailman project? > > Well, if they fed their changes back to us, that would allow us to > incorporate that into future versions of the software, which woul

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:20 PM -0500 12/14/06, Todd Zullinger wrote: > But what value would MacOSX specific integrations be to the Mailman > project? Well, if they fed their changes back to us, that would allow us to incorporate that into future versions of the software, which would then be trivially easy for t

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Todd Zullinger
Brad Knowles wrote: > Even if they have made the source code available for everything > they've done with regards to Mailman (which includes all their > proprietary management tools), this is not the same thing as > contributing that code back to the Mailman project. But what value would MacOSX

Re: [Mailman-Users] Using a different archiver

2006-12-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:36 PM -0500 12/14/06, Paul Tomblin wrote: > If I switch to a different archiver (ie. not the bundled pipermail), is > there any way to restrict the archives to members only? That would be an issue for whatever alternative archiver that you choose to use. I'm pretty sure that mhonarc can

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoing messagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:59 PM -0400 12/13/06, Pierre Igot wrote: >> > > I am aware of this page and checked it before sending my request for > help. The page didn't provide any information that addressed my > issue, as far as I could tell.

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Pierre Igot wrote: > >Believe it or not, I did check the FAQ before submitting my request. > >Try searching for all keywords "message stuck qfiles/in" or simply >for "qfiles" in the FAQ, for example. It doesn't return anything that >would have helped in my case. I believe you did check the FAQ, a

[Mailman-Users] Using a different archiver

2006-12-14 Thread Paul Tomblin
If I switch to a different archiver (ie. not the bundled pipermail), is there any way to restrict the archives to members only? -- Paul Tomblin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://blog.xcski.com/ Where a calculator on the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers in the futu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ask create list question

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Yes, I enter my password in the "List creator's (authentication) >password:" box , and my password is only contaion 'us-ascii' >characters! >And I found something strangely. I use the command mode to create a list >successful I can use command "list_lists" to see it

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow Processing/Delivery

2006-12-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 7:54 PM -0500 12/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anyone know what exactly these mean or how to handle it? Or point me in > the right direction of where to look to get this resolved since it's an > smtp problem? The error "Connection unexpectedly closed" points to a problem within your MT

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 5:32 PM -0500 12/14/06, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Apple does provide the source code for their mailman packages. You > can browse it here: Even if they have made the source code available for everything they've done with regards to Mailman (which includes all their proprietary management to

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Todd Zullinger writes: > Brad Knowles wrote: > > We can tell you what the Mailman-standard was is to start them, but > > Apple has created their own code to manage this aspect of Mailman > > operations and they haven't shared that with us. > > Apple does provide the source code for their m

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow Processing/Delivery

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >post.1:Dec 13 04:39:48 2006 (23382) post to star from [EMAIL PROTECTED], >size=28696, message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >16 failures The smtp-failure entries give more info about the same event. >The same goes for these in the smtp-failure logs: > >Dec 13 04:29:46 2006

Re: [Mailman-Users] Ask create list question

2006-12-14 Thread 遠東圖書公司
Yes, I enter my password in the "List creator's (authentication) password:" box , and my password is only contaion 'us-ascii' characters! And I found something strangely. I use the command mode to create a list successful I can use command "list_lists" to see it but when I use web ui to con

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow Processing/Delivery

2006-12-14 Thread jrotunno
Thanks for the replies. I checked out the log files and saw problems. The example I gave in my previous message, for example, generated a bunch of stuff. In the post logs I saw this repeated throughout the day until the message was delivered: post.1:Dec 13 04:39:48 2006 (23382) post to star from [

Re: [Mailman-Users] Setting language on e-mail subscribes?

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Steven Bonisteel wrote: > >Is there a command available via the e-mail interface to have a subscription >request set the preferred language at the same time? No. It would not be too dificult to implement. You would have to decide on a syntax for specifying language on the subscribe command and

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow Processing/Delivery

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jason Rotunno wrote: > >Does mailman do any kind of >prioritizing depending on system load? No. Each of mailman's queues (only 'in' and 'out' for message processing and delivery) is processed FIFO and as quickly as resources, and in the case of 'out', MTA responses allow. Brad has given some go

[Mailman-Users] Setting language on e-mail subscribes?

2006-12-14 Thread Steven Bonisteel
Is there a command available via the e-mail interface to have a subscription request set the preferred language at the same time? We would like the language of the confirmation process and the eventual welcome message to be set to a preference selected by the user (in a front-end form) *before

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Todd Zullinger
Brad Knowles wrote: > We can tell you what the Mailman-standard was is to start them, but > Apple has created their own code to manage this aspect of Mailman > operations and they haven't shared that with us. Apple does provide the source code for their mailman packages. You can browse it here:

Re: [Mailman-Users] additional Mailman Admin accounts

2006-12-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:43 PM -0800 12/14/06, Carconni wrote: > Is it possible to create an additional Mailman admin account. I have > a department director who want access over all his department's mailing > lists. He wants to be able to use one username and password without > changing the individual list pas

Re: [Mailman-Users] Slow Processing/Delivery

2006-12-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:23 PM -0500 12/14/06, Jason Rotunno wrote: > We're experiencing some significant delays with our mailman lists. Some > messages are delivered instantly, while others can take hours (or over a > day) before it's delivered. A certain amount of delay is not unusual, and variable amounts of

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:03 PM -0400 12/14/06, Pierre Igot wrote: > Believe it or not, I did check the FAQ before submitting my request. I do believe it. > Try searching for all keywords "message stuck qfiles/in" or simply > for "qfiles" in the FAQ, for example. It doesn't return anything that > would have help

Re: [Mailman-Users] Case-Sensitivity Problem?

2006-12-14 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:35 AM -0500 12/14/06, Ryan Steele wrote: > Yes, I realize this. But, there's no reason for the log to indicate > that <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was being considered as an indiscernable address. That's not quite what happened. Let's go back to an earlier message, where you quoted: > And

[Mailman-Users] additional Mailman Admin accounts

2006-12-14 Thread Carconni
Hi, Is it possible to create an additional Mailman admin account. I have a department director who want access over all his department's mailing lists. He wants to be able to use one username and password without changing the individual list passwords. Is there a way to do this? We can't gi

[Mailman-Users] Slow Processing/Delivery

2006-12-14 Thread Jason Rotunno
Hi, We're experiencing some significant delays with our mailman lists. Some messages are delivered instantly, while others can take hours (or over a day) before it's delivered. For example, a message came in at 4:07am and was passed on to mailman for processing: Dec 13 04:07:43 cork postfix/n

Re: [Mailman-Users] join script

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christopher Adams wrote: > >That's another question - what is the >difference between subscribing by sending a blank message or a >'subscribe' command to listname-join and sendilng a 'subscribe' >command to listname-request? It appears that they do the same thing. I >guess that's why we call them a

Re: [Mailman-Users] join script

2006-12-14 Thread Christopher Adams
Mark, Thanks for spotting that. I don't know why the aliases were formatted that way. It looks like the pipe was being escaped or something. I hadn't thought that it was an alias problem because most everything seemed to be working, including sending subscription requests to the listname-request a

Re: [Mailman-Users] join script

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Christopher Adams wrote: > >So, I sent a message to the listname-join address of one of my test >lists, with no commands. The result was: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/14/2006 9:59 AM >Failed (cannot append message to destination file >/|/var/mailman/mail/mailman join listname: cannot crea

[Mailman-Users] join script

2006-12-14 Thread Christopher Adams
A user had been sending subscription requests to the listname-join address and was being rejected. I realized that I hadn't even thought about mailman's alias addresses. So, I began to investigate and some user manual says that a user can send to the listname-join or listname-subscribe to request

Re: [Mailman-Users] Exclude Files csv

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Lorenzo Ortega wrote: > >I would like to know how can I exclude mails in only one list, >depending of what kind of attach. See the list admin interface Content filtering options. You can filter based on MIME type, and beginning with Mailman 2.1.6 you can also filter based on file name extensi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Pierre Igot
On 06-12-14, at 13:18, Carl Zwanzig wrote: >> But the reality was that, in all likelihood, this was a pretty basic >> problem that had to do with Mailman itself, that it probably had >> nothing to do with Apple's customizations, and that the most >> efficient way to get help was probably to submi

Re: [Mailman-Users] User unsubscribing

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Alan McConnell wrote: >On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 09:35:04PM -0600, Brad Knowles wrote: >> At 6:35 PM -0500 12/13/06, Alan McConnell wrote: >> >> > But when I went back to check: there "I" am, still a member. >> > >> > My question: how can that happen? >> >> The web page may have been cached at a p

Re: [Mailman-Users] Case-Sensitivity Problem?

2006-12-14 Thread Paul Tomblin
Quoting Mark Sapiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Was the original post a reply to another post? If so, perhaps the > poster's MUA added the Sender: of the original to the recipient list > of the reply. See > > for some additional info

Re: [Mailman-Users] Case-Sensitivity Problem?

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Sapiro
Ryan Steele wrote: >Mark Sapiro wrote: >> Ryan Steele wrote: >> >>> Here is an excerpt from the mail header: >>> >>> Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id e.cef.43ab224 (57293); Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:41:44 -0500 (E

[Mailman-Users] mailman virtual applicance?

2006-12-14 Thread Sean Murphy
Hi, I would like to install a mailman list server on a machine with as little difficulty as possible - a nice way to do this, I think, is using the virtual appliance idea - has anyone created a mailman virtual appliance for VMWare or for Xen? Thanks, Seán. ---

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Carl Zwanzig
[not speaking for Mark, Barry, or really anyone but me] This is really the classic IT problem of unsupported configurations. In a flurry of recycled electrons, Pierre Igot wrote: > But the reality was that, in all likelihood, this was a pretty basic > problem that had to do with Mailman itself

Re: [Mailman-Users] Case-Sensitivity Problem?

2006-12-14 Thread Ryan Steele
Mark Sapiro wrote: > Ryan Steele wrote: > > >> I think I've actually identified the problem. >> > > > I don't think so. > > > >> Here is an excerpt from the mail header: >> >> >>> Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id e.cef.43ab2

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Dec 14, 2006, at 3:18 AM, Terry Allen wrote: > I sent some docs through to Barry Warsaw a long time back, > but some oif the info contained in it are here: Hi Terry, would you consider fleshing out OS X support on the Mailman wiki? That's

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Pierre Igot
On 06-12-14, at 03:51, Mark Sapiro wrote: > WRT to mailmanctl, apparently the Mailman qrunners were running at > some > time and then stopped. I don't know how they were started in the first > place or why they stopped. Perhaps a reboot of the server would have > started them again, perhaps not,

Re: [Mailman-Users] User unsubscribing

2006-12-14 Thread Alan McConnell
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 09:35:04PM -0600, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 6:35 PM -0500 12/13/06, Alan McConnell wrote: > > > But when I went back to check: there "I" am, still a member. > > > > My question: how can that happen? > > The web page may have been cached at a proxy between you and the > ser

[Mailman-Users] Exclude Files csv

2006-12-14 Thread Lorenzo Ortega
Hello All, I would like to know how can I exclude mails in only one list, depending of what kind of attach. A lists is receiving mails with csv attachments and big zips, I would like to stop them. sorry for my english, i've to improved it :-) Thanks in advance --

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman on Mac OS X Server 10.3: Outgoingmessagesstuck in qrunner/in folder

2006-12-14 Thread Terry Allen
>Mark Sapiro wrote: > >>Pierre Igot wrote: >> >>>On 06-12-13, at 19:31, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> Pierre Igot wrote: > > I am running Mailman on an Xserve running Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. The > version of Mailman is the one included with Mac OS X Server 10.3.9. > (It's 2.1.2.)