Re: [Mailman-Users] incorrect archive time (daylight savings)

2006-07-12 Thread Brad Knowles
the timezone settings on that machine. But since RFC 822 and 2822 specify the Date: header as being required for Internet messages, odds are pretty good that's coming from the remote end. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary

Re: [Mailman-Users] To: is being rewritten by some mail agents

2006-07-12 Thread Brad Knowles
is not to use CNAMEs at all in your DNS, but instead to have the hostnames resolve directly into the appropriate IP addresses, and to make sure that the reverse DNS for that IP address includes all the appropriate hostnames. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential

Re: [Mailman-Users] Searchable Archives

2006-07-11 Thread Brad Knowles
with Mailman 2.2, but not in the current version. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spams directed to list owner.

2006-07-11 Thread Brad Knowles
with, in order that listmembers will get less spam. That's one of the prices you pay for being a listowner. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790

Re: [Mailman-Users] Next Gen stuff (was: mailman minimal (memory) requirements?)

2006-07-03 Thread Brad Knowles
. If you could help code up such a feature, please take the rest of this discussion to the mailman-developers list. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman minimal (memory) requirements?

2006-07-03 Thread Brad Knowles
system is smaller than I thought would work even moderately well (based on the information I had gathered), but it may be that we could cut things down even more. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman minimal (memory) requirements?

2006-07-03 Thread Brad Knowles
of recommendations based on traffic and resources. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman minimal (memory) requirements?

2006-07-02 Thread Brad Knowles
is pretty much the same all over. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and fault tolerance

2006-06-23 Thread Brad Knowles
The outgoing message (containing a recipient list in its metadata) is placed in Mailman's 'out' queue where it is picked up by OutgoingRunner. At this point it is deleted from the out queue and exists only in memory. OutgoingRunner calls the DELIVERY_MODULE (normally SMTPDirect) to actually

Re: [Mailman-Users] Batch delete admin requests

2006-06-23 Thread Brad Knowles
together, throw it over the wall, and it's up to the customer base to decide whether or not they want to catch whatever it is that they suddenly find being dropped on them from altitude. You like playing the game spear catcher, right? -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up

Re: [Mailman-Users] RFC Header to Ignore Messages (dont send them to the list?)

2006-06-21 Thread Brad Knowles
groups, and talk about them there. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11

Re: [Mailman-Users] Cpanel mailing lists no longer working

2006-06-20 Thread Brad Knowles
-- see the FAQ referenced above. You can try the troubleshooting tips laid out in FAQ 3.14 at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.014.htp, but you're not going to be able to do all of these things, because your lists are hosted through cPanel. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] marketing software frontend for mailman ?

2006-06-19 Thread Brad Knowles
be nice. Let me know thanks. See FAQ 1.30. Oh, and you should also see FAQs 1.22 and 1.23. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790

Re: [Mailman-Users] marketing software frontend for mailman ?

2006-06-19 Thread Brad Knowles
the archives (in accordance with FAQ 1.18, 1.22, and 1.23) should probably have demonstrated this fact, but maybe not. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin

Re: [Mailman-Users] new users get welcome e-mails but posts aren'tgoing out

2006-06-15 Thread Brad Knowles
like firewall configurations, there's not much we can do to help you. You need to use the mailing lists, newsgroups, and other support services that are specific to those OSes. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-14 Thread Brad Knowles
manager, I don't think you're going to need throttling. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-14 Thread Brad Knowles
command would control this, an option in the Mailman configs, or what. It's an issue that should be easy enough to fix through modifying the configuration file. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-14 Thread Brad Knowles
!!! Yes. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-14 Thread Brad Knowles
, huh? Close enough. ;) Thanks very much. You are much too kind and patient. I do my best. Sometimes I do better than others. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Brad Knowles
. If you're running a large list, I still firmly believe that you should be hosting that list at a provider where you are not required to do any throttling. If you do have to do throttling, then you're hosting your list at the wrong place. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Brad Knowles
+milter is going to be able to be configured to meet or beat the performance you could get out of an equivalently configured postfix installation. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:39 PM -0400 2006-06-13, Peter C.S. Adams wrote: Thus spake Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED], circa 6/13/2006 2:14 PM: Sendmail, postfix, and Exim are all good MTAs. For 99.% of what any site is likely to do, any of these programs should be more than adequate. Brad, any thoughts

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Brad Knowles
. I do remain convinced that if you're trying to do throttling because your provider requires it, that you are most definitely using the wrong provider. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither

Re: [Mailman-Users] Throttling output

2006-06-13 Thread Brad Knowles
, your mileage will most definitely vary. Controlling the number of processes doesn't help. To make this effective, you really do need to have direct control over the number of messages sent per hour. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with To Header

2006-06-12 Thread Brad Knowles
-- if this means you need to have multiple reverse records, then do so. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with To Header

2006-06-12 Thread Brad Knowles
addresses as you want for a given name, and as many reverse records as you want for each IP address. That said, many applications cannot handle more than one reverse record for a given IP address, but that is the problem of the application -- BIND doesn't care. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive sorting question

2006-06-11 Thread Brad Knowles
other thoughts/examples/opinions? Now that I've seen the options, I like your idea best. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive sorting question

2006-06-10 Thread Brad Knowles
the previous and next links would probably be sufficient. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly

Re: [Mailman-Users] Problems with To Header

2006-06-09 Thread Brad Knowles
. I'm sorry, the only way to really fix this problem is to fix the DNS. Even if you have complete and total control over your own machine, you're still hosed by every other machine on the Internet. You have to get the DNS fixed. That's the *only* solution. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] sysadmin held messages reviewer?

2006-06-06 Thread Brad Knowles
free to contribute any command-line tools that you may develop. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania

Re: [Mailman-Users] Second request - Code edit question.

2006-06-05 Thread Brad Knowles
appropriate place to ask this question than mailman-developers. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly

Re: [Mailman-Users] Second request - Code edit question.

2006-06-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:05 AM -0500 2006-06-05, Brad Knowles wrote: I would encourage you to search the FAQ Wizard and the list archives for template, as well as some of the key words/phrases you're looking to remove, and see what turns up. It turns out that a trivially simple search

Re: [Mailman-Users] Second request - Code edit question.

2006-06-05 Thread Brad Knowles
Thanks for your support! -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11

Re: [Mailman-Users] partial (silent) non-delivery

2006-06-05 Thread Brad Knowles
down precisely where that additional code would be needed. I'm hoping that more extensive debugging facilities is something that can be addressed in Mailman 2.2, or at least in Mailman3. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little

Re: [Mailman-Users] Can't run mm_cfg.py

2006-06-01 Thread Brad Knowles
configuration details. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755

Re: [Mailman-Users] message body is blank for some users

2006-06-01 Thread Brad Knowles
my settings to Should Mailman convert text/html parts to plain text? = No. I'll ask the user to post and see what happens. That may not help. Give it a try, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty

Re: [Mailman-Users] Taking word bounces out of received emails......

2006-06-01 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:32 PM -0700 2006-06-01, The Lafferty wrote: We are running windows, is there any easy way to take this word out by using the web interface? See http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq02.003.htp. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up

Re: [Mailman-Users] message body is blank for some users

2006-05-31 Thread Brad Knowles
have an MUA that lets you see all that, you'll need to get an MUA that will. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania

Re: [Mailman-Users] [ANN] Job Posting in Boston MA - Web Application Engineer (Python)

2006-05-30 Thread Brad Knowles
, then this is an inappropriate message to be posted on this list. In addition, since you have probably spammed all the other lists hosted on python.org, you're not likely to be very welcome in this community. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic deletion of posts by non-members of a list

2006-05-27 Thread Brad Knowles
to choose from. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic deletion of posts by non-members of a list

2006-05-26 Thread Brad Knowles
of mailing lists where you don't really care about the content and where the posters don't really care about the content, and no one is going to get upset if some messages get thrown away. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary

Re: [Mailman-Users] Automatic deletion of posts by non-members of a list

2006-05-25 Thread Brad Knowles
action. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member

Re: [Mailman-Users] time accounting otrs 2.0.4

2006-05-23 Thread Brad Knowles
management package known as Mailman. The problem you're reporting does not seem to be related to this package. Perhaps you meant to post this question to a different mailing list? -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to test SpamAssassin with mailman?

2006-05-23 Thread Brad Knowles
. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and PHP

2006-05-22 Thread Brad Knowles
. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and PHP

2006-05-22 Thread Brad Knowles
, documentation, etc -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA

Re: [Mailman-Users] No mail from list (was: Stupid Newby Setup question)

2006-05-18 Thread Brad Knowles
, or the vendor of the product. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman and dynamic DNS redirect

2006-05-18 Thread Brad Knowles
those messages. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member

Re: [Mailman-Users] hot to setup a commits list?

2006-05-16 Thread Brad Knowles
run for the NTP Public Services Project. Works fine for us. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly

Re: [Mailman-Users] hot to setup a commits list?

2006-05-16 Thread Brad Knowles
notification process to add an Approved: password line to the headers of your message, or the first line of the message body, I don't see any way that the security could be further improved, at least as far as Mailman is concerned. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up

Re: [Mailman-Users] approval password linked to sender rather than list?

2006-05-15 Thread Brad Knowles
into the main code base. But uploading your patch would greatly increase your chances. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply

Re: [Mailman-Users] Versions? Roadmap?

2006-05-15 Thread Brad Knowles
be, but with additional core developers being brought online, allowing Tokio and Mark to focus on the 2.x tree while Barry works on Mailman3, I think we've been doing a lot better. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety

Re: [Mailman-Users] approval password linked to sender rather than list?

2006-05-15 Thread Brad Knowles
.x is still in fairly formative stages right now, and anything that would be required to bring the code up from the 2.1.8 baseline to 2.2.x should be something that Tokio, Mark, or Barry can do as needed. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman (+vexim +exim) -- absolute urls, stored WITH THE LIST

2006-05-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:36 PM -0500 2006-05-10, will trillich wrote: i'm feeling much better now. :) probably drove Richard to drink. Since this issue is fresh in your mind, it would probably be a good idea to capture your experience in the FAQ Wizard on this subject. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Internet Service Providers and Spam

2006-05-09 Thread Brad Knowles
the other side. I know how they work. That's part of why I don't work there anymore. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply

[Mailman-Users] Has anyone actually implemented Postfix address verification for their sites?

2006-05-07 Thread Brad Knowles
in a testing mode. Before I look any deeper into this concept, has anyone actually used it? Have you used it on a large system? Did you notice any particular problem issues? Do you have any advice for someone who might be contemplating going down this road? -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those

Re: [Mailman-Users] Has anyone actually implemented Postfix address verification for their sites?

2006-05-07 Thread Brad Knowles
around the world who contact your server once per day (or once per hour, or however they're configured), and that's it. This is a much more scalable solution than might appear at first blush. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase

Re: [Mailman-Users] Has anyone actually implemented Postfix address verification for their sites?

2006-05-07 Thread Brad Knowles
of Postfix, please see http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_VERIFICATION_README.html. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania

Re: [Mailman-Users] Has anyone actually implemented Postfix address verification for their sites?

2006-05-07 Thread Brad Knowles
, and the receiving server can then reject the protocol violation (I don't know whether Postfix can do that). Postfix does have a method of detecting and rejecting unauthorized pipelining, and that feature is also turned on. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential

Re: [Mailman-Users] Limiting the number of Mailman processes

2006-05-06 Thread Brad Knowles
additional Mailman-related processes will be spawned. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor

Re: [Mailman-Users] Remove sender from list?

2006-05-06 Thread Brad Knowles
in the messages you are posting to the list, it appears that you are using Gmail through their web interface, so Gmail would be your MUA. I'll let someone else try to explain the rest. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary

Re: [Mailman-Users] Syndicating a Mailman List

2006-05-05 Thread Brad Knowles
into RSS feeds, and there are services out there that will do that for you -- you just tell them which pages you want scraped, etc... and they do the rest. Try Googling for RSS generator. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little

Re: [Mailman-Users] moderator login can access admin pages

2006-05-05 Thread Brad Knowles
to remove the appropriate security checks. If you want your list moderators to be able to perform list administration tasks, then give them the list admin password and make them list administrators. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase

Re: [Mailman-Users] How is the list is setup for digests?

2006-05-05 Thread Brad Knowles
the formatting correctly, so that they can then present the digest to the user in a way that makes sense. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790

Re: [Mailman-Users] Rpms for RHEL/Centos 4?

2006-05-05 Thread Brad Knowles
support. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since

Re: [Mailman-Users] One mail-list does not archive

2006-05-04 Thread Brad Knowles
archives again. I'm pretty sure that Mark has some instructions that he has posted on this subject which can be found in the archives of the mailman-users list, and that his instructions will be much more clear than what I tried to describe above. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those

Re: [Mailman-Users] moderator login can access admin pages

2006-05-04 Thread Brad Knowles
password and make them list administrators and not just list moderators. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman vs yahoogroups

2006-05-03 Thread Brad Knowles
be surprised. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman vs yahoogroups

2006-05-02 Thread Brad Knowles
, but that would be beyond the scope of Mailman itself. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly

Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list

2006-04-30 Thread Brad Knowles
can do to help you. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA

Re: [Mailman-Users] error install MM on MAC OS x

2006-04-30 Thread Brad Knowles
to the version of the code that we shipped years ago and you can drop in a more recent version if you know what you're doing. This is a really old argument. You don't want to go down this road. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase

Re: [Mailman-Users] Getting duplicates when people CC list

2006-04-30 Thread Brad Knowles
the duplication is the MTA of your mail services provider. With a few header samples of various messages, we should be able to figure out what's going on. Or, at least get a better idea of what additional information we may need. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-29 Thread Brad Knowles
an Errors-To header? I can't find it in the usual suspects. That's the oldest technique for handling bounces. It has been deprecated for a while, but I would be inclined to continue to at least provide the appropriate information. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up

Re: [Mailman-Users] error install MM on MAC OS x

2006-04-29 Thread Brad Knowles
. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005

Re: [Mailman-Users] error install MM on MAC OS x

2006-04-29 Thread Brad Knowles
Mailman is installed from our source tarballs. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor

Re: [Mailman-Users] Recompiling question.

2006-04-29 Thread Brad Knowles
are. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] Cannot update Mailman FAQ

2006-04-28 Thread Brad Knowles
(in case things need to be rolled back). Wikis, by their nature, are considerably more complex and at least some of them don't track changes. I'm not really looking forward to having all the FAQ stuff moved over to the wiki. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread Brad Knowles
. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since

Re: [Mailman-Users] Sender field

2006-04-27 Thread Brad Knowles
and controllable by the site admin (and something that can be delegated to the list admin), and you'll have a much better chance of getting someone to pay attention to your request. Otherwise, keep applying the patch to each new version of Mailman as you install it. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailing List Size

2006-04-19 Thread Brad Knowles
, and to at least take a look at the full index of all FAQ entries at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=index. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive problems

2006-04-13 Thread Brad Knowles
should be free of any leading white space. If you've got any leading white space, you should check to make sure that it is appropriate for that particular configuration option in that particular place. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty

Re: [Mailman-Users] SANE

2006-04-13 Thread Brad Knowles
you're more likely to get help. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11

Re: [Mailman-Users] Archive problems

2006-04-12 Thread Brad Knowles
in mm_cfg.py. Defaults.py will get replaced when you upgrade your Mailman installation, but mm_cfg.py won't. If you've made all your changes to Defaults.py and not mm_cfg.py, then when you upgrade all your changes will be gone and all your lists will disappear. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer being attached

2006-04-11 Thread Brad Knowles
as a .txt attachment. Go to the FAQ Wizard at http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py and search for footer. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin

Re: [Mailman-Users] (no subject)

2006-04-10 Thread Brad Knowles
to your lists. In other words, all the necessary features are already there in the search box. You just have to use them. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

Re: [Mailman-Users] Accessing lists

2006-04-10 Thread Brad Knowles
lists for which I've only been a subscriber for a couple of years, it takes a while. On the other hand, bin/find_member can search through all the lists hosted on python.org pretty quickly. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little

Re: [Mailman-Users] Accessing lists

2006-04-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:40 PM -0500 2006-04-10, Brad Knowles wrote: On the other hand, bin/find_member can search through all the lists hosted on python.org pretty quickly. There's another factor here -- we have plenty of subscribers who

Re: [Mailman-Users] Accessing lists

2006-04-10 Thread Brad Knowles
to address some of these issues, but in the meanwhile there are at least some other options that can be used. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790

Re: [Mailman-Users] Accessing lists

2006-04-10 Thread Brad Knowles
. If that works for the OP, that's great. If not, then he might need to try the command-line tools. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam assassin with mailman

2006-03-06 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:57 PM -0700 2006-03-06, Jonathan Larsen wrote: Besides the integration. Is there another way to solve this problem? Integrate it into the MTA. See FAQ 6.12 for one example. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam assassin with mailman

2006-03-06 Thread Brad Knowles
before you receive the message the first time, then configure a second MTA where you can dump stuff for outgoing traffic which doesn't waste your time by re-doing the same check all over again. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little

Re: [Mailman-Users] Importing messages into the archive

2006-03-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:58 AM -0500 2006-03-05, Jack Aubert wrote: Can anybody tell me how to import a bunch of messages into a mailman archive? You could go to the FAQ Wizard and search for import or archive. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase

Re: [Mailman-Users] using an ORBS type lookup to auto reject posts

2006-03-05 Thread Brad Knowles
already lost. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-04 Thread Brad Knowles
. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 LOPSA member since December 2005

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-04 Thread Brad Knowles
and what will happen as a result, and they're going to force all their members to go along with this idea whether they like it or not. And AOL will be just the first in a long line of companies to jack into this new and exceptionally profitable revenue stream. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL

Re: [Mailman-Users] Bounce issues with Yahoo

2006-03-04 Thread Brad Knowles
not have had much time to work on this kind of stuff recently. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-04 Thread Brad Knowles
that many of the other primary providers are then likely to try to follow. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-04 Thread Brad Knowles
have no power, for as long as human history has existed. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly

Re: [Mailman-Users] How to start a new list?

2006-03-04 Thread Brad Knowles
basic process above. If you actually run Mailman on your own server, the process will be more complex. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790

Re: [Mailman-Users] Goodmail spells doom for mailing lists?

2006-03-04 Thread Brad Knowles
shill. So, I think we are done. Agreed, nothing more is going to come out of this. -- Brad Knowles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply

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