everything working on the new server.
Got the new server on line, up and running, the email lists are doing
just fine. But for some reason there are problems with the web pages,
like http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo will not work. And I don't
know why. Here's the relevant lines from
a common
> enough reason for doing this, we (the committers) should think about
> adding such features to Mailman 3 (Mailman 2 is up to Mark, but I
> think he really really wants that in security mods only mode). But I
> don't see the point, since subscribers (moderated or not) will be
loy
host, and took a while to figure out and find a workaround.
I mostly managed to suppress the memories of trying to upgrade
openstack from nova to havana (or whatever they were called).
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On Wed, 2019-04-10 at 09:25 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
> The path forward is to increase the community of MM 3 users which will
> result in more people contributing to the project and faster progress.
What Mailman things need assistance in MM3? I've avoided jumping in because
hones
gs is exactly what they
felt they needed to do differently in python 3... I'm sure there's other
monsters there too.
I suspect the practical answer may be as simple as replacing
/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman with
"""
cat - | docker exec MM2_CONTAINTER /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman &
On 4/10/19 12:49 PM, Sean McBride wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 12:38:34 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users said:
>
>> How much support for python 2 have you been getting until now, and why
>> do you believe you will need it in the future?
>
> Fixes to security v
On 4/10/19 10:36 AM, Matthew Goebel wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Now that all support for Python 2 is supposed to go away in 2020 are
> people going to move off of mailman 2?
How much support for python 2 have you been getting until now, and why
do you believe you will need it in the future?
On 4/5/19 11:59 AM, Valentin Schwarze via Mailman-Users wrote:
Are there any settings that we as administrators of the list could
change to end that behavior? For example, is it possible in any way,
that Mailman only accepts emails that passed a SPF check? Or any other
option to prevent email
Hello,
I am the administrator of some mailman lists of the student self-administration
of our university. We happend to have some spam issues on our mailman lists.
These spammers were able to send emails on our lists through mail spoofing
(only faking the From: field in the header
On 3/26/19 4:12 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> Sure, FetchMail can pull email from the ISP and inject it into the local
> server. But what advantage does that gain you? Is said advantage worth
> the complexity?
Apparently lennartwware-infested linux distros no longer re
ssages where multiple servers up
stream are the source of duplication.
Are you implying that local MTA alters this behavior? Or that it
provides additional tracing / diagnostic information?
I'm not aware of Mailman having any Message-ID deduplication
functionality. Nor have I reall
On 3/26/19 12:36 AM, Jim Ziobro wrote:
why not setup standard Mailman under your favorite mail system and let
FetchMail do what it does best?
The unneeded complexity of a local mail system.
FetchMail & SMTP Auth would work against an ISP's email server over
dynamic / dial up connect
On 3/24/19 11:50 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
This should work in Mailman 2, but won't in Mailman 3 (which expects
incoming posts via LMTP).
Noted. I think it would be possible to interject a shim between
fetchmail that would extract what's necessary to speak LMTP to Mailman.
Is the LMTP
Okay here's the output from 'postconf -n'
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
append_dot_mydomain = no
biff = no
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
config_directory = /etc/postfix
content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024
On 3/21/19 4:04 PM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
I honestly don't remember the details but if I was passing mail to
local MTA configured as my home MX, I don't see why mailman wouldn't
work behind that.
I think that it should.
I'm talking about bypassing the local MTA all together
On 3/21/19 3:57 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> Fetchmail itself is plenty common. I had no idea that it was as common
> with Mailman. 209 hits on the link that Mark shared.
I honestly don't remember the details but if I was passing mail to local
MTA configured as my home
On 3/21/19 2:05 PM, Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
IST vaguely R firing up fetchmail from a dip script to inject messages
from my school mailbox into my local qmail... Plenty typical at the time.
Fetchmail itself is plenty common. I had no idea that it was as common
with Mailman
On 3/21/19 1:56 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 3/21/19 11:29 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
>>
>> I see no technical reason why Mailman couldn't function via something
>> like fetchmail from a POP3 mailbox and SMTP Authentication to send.
...
>> It would be q
On 3/21/19 11:58 AM, Adam Goldberg wrote:
There are ways around this.
I see no technical reason why Mailman couldn't function via something
like fetchmail from a POP3 mailbox and SMTP Authentication to send.
Fetchmail would pull the messages from an external 3rd party email
server, do
On 3/21/19 12:40 AM, 황병희 wrote:
in this case i can run mailman with other port (example 625)? again
question, Mailman can act with 625 or 1625 or 2625, ...?
No. Not directly.
Mailman is not a mail server. You must have a mail server (daemon) sit
in front of Mailman.
You can make
mail.domainname.tld [private/dovecot-lmtp] said: 550
5.1.1 User doesn't exist:
s...@hostname.domainname.tld (in reply to RCPT TO command))
Mar 19 18:21:43 zarathustra postfix/lmtp[18151]: 925B210193B:
to=<|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mail...@hostname.domainname.tld >,
relay=mail.domainname.tld [p
Using mailman 2.1.9 on ubuntu 14.04 using mysql for aliases and mail
accounts. Iy was working fine for a long time then something went awry. Now
I've got an iterative loop and multiple email lists are generating
'Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender' messages. Those message then have the
following
On 3/18/2019 4:51 AM, Davide Marchi wrote:
1) How is it possible from Mailman monitor the delivery errors? Only
sysadmin mail server from the logs?
This is what VERP deliveries are for. The FROM address is tagged so that
bounces can be clearly identified.
https://wiki.list.org/DOC/So%20what
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GSM modem and send actual sms'es.
Off the top of my head you'd put this behind a script-mailbox and
subscribe it to your list and Robert's your parent's sibling.
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On 02/27/2019 02:22 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
Hi,
Hi Dave,
I've been using mailman to send routine announcements for a long time
and more and more what people want is a text message. I've been able
to discover gateways for individual carriers so that I can send to
@..com and the subscriber
my interactive donation
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, but it may get overwritten when you upgrade.
mm_cfg.py never gets overwritten.
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/customizing.html
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is not handled.
Is there some config we need to change in mailman to secure it
properly?
What is the DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN setting in mm_cfg.py?
I've got mine set to ...
DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
... so all URL's go to https.
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Am 26.02.19 um 08:59 schrieb Odhiambo Washington:
> Server: Ubuntu 18.01
>
> I have followed these:
> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-install/node42.html
>
> % update-rc.d mailman defaults
>
> But still, mailman doesn't start on reboot.
>
> Nothing
dear mailman people,
I have a public list and try to trim the inevitable spam with
rules that look reasonable but I am not completely sure they
won't backfire for legit mails
(e.g. consider sender names as fictitious when having
20+ consecutive letters)
I was thinking of receiving a copy
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Set a regex for whatever you want to catch, set the action to Hold.
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On 2/1/19 6:49 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
Yes, Mailman has a feature call topics, but that is very different
then what the OP is asking for.
Agreed. (I thought I covered that in my last email. Maybe I wasn't clear.)
The Mailman 'Topic' operation basically provides the ability of the
list
On 02/01/2019 01:14 AM, R. Diez via Mailman-Users wrote:
Of course there is the concept of 'Topic' in a mailing list. Mailman,
the web interface, or whatever, does know how to group topics together.
That is an obvious feature, because people tend to work/participate in
threads.
I believe
You are being a bit over dramatic indeed. I don't pretend that everyone else should change their ways. And I do look into the archives all
the time. That is what I am trying to optimise away. I just wish Mailman (or whatever associated component) would help here, like other
communication platforms already
Hello R. Diez. On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 09:30:54 +0100, you wrote:
> Other systems can do it. I understand that you do not want to
> implement it yourself in Mailman, but why oppose the idea?
Then use these "other systems", please.
Or try to implement the solution suggested by tlha
, of course
you expect to receive e-mails about those. That is what mailing lists are about. That should stand in court.
Mailman has a long page with settings like digest mode, stop delivery (holiday mode), and many, many more. Other communication platforms
like Google Group allow you to manage
s unrealistic to expect general users to subscribe to every mailing list and read many messages before they ask the one important
question for them today. It is unrealistic to hope that this will help grow a community.
I am not asking for people to "go out of their way to answer in a special way
is
mailing list is called "users", and not "developers" or "mailman clan only".
I asked about a way around a perceived limitation, and in the face of the answer, I contributed with reasoning and examples (a couple of links) about
a missing feature and why it is imp
messages which do not interest me.
>
> Other forum software has a nice feature for this scenario: If I post
> to a subject, I am automatically subscribed to that subject. I then
> get an e-mail for any new posts with the same subject.
>
> The "topic" feature in Mailman
list normally.
> [...]
This is a serious shortcoming in Mailman. I am surprised that such a basic
human communication issue has not been properly addressed.
See here what kind of effect that can have. From the message below, a long
discussion follows on this subject:
https://lists.ubu
Hello R. Diez via Mailman-Users. On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 11:11:48 +0100, you wrote:
> I have the following recurring problem with mailing lists all over
> the Internet: people do reply to my posts, by they do not address or
> copy me in their replies. They send their e-mails only to th
to that subject. I then get
an e-mail for any new posts with the same subject.
The "topic" feature in Mailman is different. Very few people use it. I need
something based on the e-mail subject.
Is there any way to achieve that with Mailman?
Thanks in advanc
On 1/29/2019 12:13 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Also, Adding a global setting for dmarc_moderation_addresses on top of
the per-list setting is not difficult either. See
<https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/revision/1574>
for how this was done for a global ban_list.
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Hello David Gibbs via Mailman-Users. On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:54:21 -0600, you
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> I've got a number of subscribers who's email admins have set a policy
> such that, if a message is sent to them with their email address as
> the 'from' address, the message is rejected.
>
>
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ticketing system /might/ do something like that. But I bet that the
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On 1/14/2019 12:13 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 1/14/19 8:40 AM, David Gibbs via Mailman-Users wrote:
Anyone know if it's possible to configure MM 2.1 to allow posting
with an email address that has a modifier?
You can't configure Mailman to just do it without making code
changes,
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On Wed, 09 Jan 2019 16:15:26 +0100
Konrad Wawryn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to create newsletter mailing list with ~3,2mln abonents.
>
> The question is, can Mailman handle it ? Will it be possible to
> import via command line such a big amount of users ?
Ours choked on
On 1/7/19 2:13 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> I think Sendmail (and other MTAs that I've tested) default to
> user@host.domain too. But that's just a default that's easy to change.
LOL. Not on IRIX it wasn't.
> Or are you saying that you used
> MX records to
On 01/07/2019 09:59 AM, Dmitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users wrote:
We used to run irix whose sendmail sent every message from host.domain
and every A record had to have an adjacent MX record for e-mail to even
work. That way lies madness.
Hum.
I think Sendmail (and other MTAs that I've tested
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 15:47:01 -0700
Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> On 1/4/19 3:40 AM, Jim Ziobro wrote:
> > Setting up mailing lists in a separate domain has a nice
> > administrative appeal.
We used to run irix whose sendmail sent every message from
lists" and
191 have a host "list..." in their DNS. I surveyed a few and ran
across: Mailman, Lyris, Sympa, Listserv, Majordomo, and Google groups.
Many universities outsource their Email to Outlook which has it own
Group capability.
Interesting.
I can hook up any mail system. J
Folks:
This isn't specific to Mailman ... but is related to mailing list servers in
general.
I've had my mailing lists on an in-house server for a long time (more than 15
years). I'm currently able to deliver mail to Yahoo without any problems.
I've been trying to move the mailing list
Folks:
I'm curious as to how people are setting 'dmarc_none_moderation_action'... which
controls how Mailman handles domains with a dmarc policy action of none (like
gmail.com).
Is there a compelling reason to set it to Yes so that messages from such domains
are munged or wrapped?
Thanks
. If I were doing this, I'd
be tempted to try alpine w/ mailman from source.
(We run centos 6 on servers and so far I don't see any upgrade path for
them that involves either readhat- or debian-based distributions. In
fact, *BSD looks like a better option than any of them at the moment.)
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Hello Dimitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users. On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:45:31 -0600, you
wrote:
> So this was a user problem, mailman works exactly as advertised:
> - user has his e-mail forwarded to gmail,
> - gmail put it in "all mail",
> - not seeing it in "inbox&
So this was a user problem, mailman works exactly as advertised:
- user has his e-mail forwarded to gmail,
- gmail put it in "all mail",
- not seeing it in "inbox", the user went and checked the archives,
- where the attachments were scrubbed.
Now that we found the actual e-ma
ving his own messages or something...
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Am 07.12.18 um 14:06 schrieb Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users:
>
> I have a Mailman 2.1.27 installation on cPanel 76.0.7.
>
> Today a subscriber of a list sent an empty email trying to unsubscribe. He
> addressed the message to the list address , with the
> su
Hi all
I have a Mailman 2.1.27 installation on cPanel 76.0.7.
Today a subscriber of a list sent an empty email trying to unsubscribe. He
addressed the message to the list address , with the
subject "unsubscribe", and else nothing. But instead of his unsubsciption being
processe
On 12/06/2018 11:24 AM, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
> As a native italian speaker (who however virtually always uses the
> English interface in the *GUI* of mailman and any other tool) I would
> regard as highly inconvenient any localization of *service address
> suffixes*).
Oh, I du
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 10:28:53 +0900
"Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote:
> Dmitri Maziuk via Mailman-Users writes:
> > So basically unix user/group access model is wrong because sendmail
> > is full of bugs?
>
> Please, Dmitri. All large software applications are full
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 10:30:53 -0500
Jim Ziobro wrote:
...
> Is the directory “/etc/mailman” group-writable only to support the
> creation of an aliases file?I would feel more confident if /etc/mailman
> was only writable by root.
So basically unix user/group access model is wron
s odd, and I'm trying to figure out if anyone else has ever seen
> this?
> Not much I can do about this with mailman if true?
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Thank you for the clarification Mark. That accounts for what I'm seeing.
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Is it expected that Mailman will preserve UTF-8 (punctuation symbols) in
non-MIME digests?
I'm having errors reported to me from (non-MIME) digest subscribers to
lists mailing lists.
Is this a known limitation of non-MIME digests? Or is it possibly a
symptom of a problem?
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On 11/29/2018 02:00 AM, Jim Ziobro wrote:
Mm-handler is definitely a cool idea. But it seems that once Mailman can
update Sendmail's aliases immediately there is no need for mm-handler.
I view things a little bit differently.
Why should I need to reconfigure the MTA when I'm making a change
On 11/28/2018 02:39 PM, Jim Ziobro wrote:
I now realize that mm-handler would not be necessary if Mailman fully
connected to Sendmail. The Postfix connection looks very close.
Please elaborate on what you mean by "if Mailman fully connected to
Sendmail". Rather, how is Mailman n
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On 11/24/18 10:17 PM, Jayson Smith wrote:
Hi,
Hi,
I've been using .forward to forward Email from some user mailboxes to
other addresses. Normally this works just fine, but a few weeks ago a
situation happened which demonstrates how it can be an epic fail. I had
a Mailman/DNS problem after
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On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 16:48 -0600, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> On 11/01/2018 01:49 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > Apologies Grant it this is too much discussion of you :-) I'm only
> > trying
> > to get to the root of the issue.
>
> No pro
On 11/01/2018 01:49 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
Apologies Grant it this is too much discussion of you :-) I'm only trying
to get to the root of the issue.
No problem.
I'm using S/MIME, not PGP (GPG).
Let's see if this makes it through happier.
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On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 13:07 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 11/1/18 12:43 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> >
> > Here's what I see https://i.imgur.com/xLDnojI.png in Evolution. I
> > was wrong to assume it was a PGP parse error, it does however look
> > to
On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 15:43 -0400, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 12:30 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> > On 11/1/18 12:11 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 12:27 -0600, Grant Taylor via Mailman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512
On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 12:30 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 11/1/18 12:11 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 12:27 -0600, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
> > wrote:
> > > Error verifyin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512
On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 12:27 -0600, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
> Error verifying signature: parse error
Hello,
I changed the subject and have GPG signed this message. I've done this
because I keep seeing GPG Sig parse err
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to share what I have with you and you incorporate
what you think is reasonable in your version?
One other feature that I'd like is to optionally save *all* bounce
messages. This is valuable for initial list creation. Is that feature
available elsewhere in mailman?
Assuming that all bounces pass
On 10/29/2018 09:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
The most up to date version is
<https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/mailman/2.1/view/head:/contrib/mm-handler-2.1.10>.
For some info on the differences between this and the original
<https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mailman-coders/ma
to also add the Auto-Submitted: auto-generated
header to the DSN. And make sure it uses the Null Reverse Path.
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Hello,
With some help from Mark and Barry, I was able to setup build "recipes"
(Ubuntu Launchpad configurations) that will now automatically build and
publish the latest greatest Mailman 2.x source that Mark releases.
That's right, it'
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On Tue, 2018-09-18 at 08:47 -0400, Matthew Draft wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm new to mailman and could use some advise as far as setting up a
> new listserv. Do I need to rent server space to hold the list data?
Hi,
If you don't want to rent a server and install and maintain mailman, you
can fi
tion form on
> their behalf in an attempt to remove them from the list.
>
> Is there any way for us to monitor these attempts?
Short answer is it should be in your webserver log if it came via the web
interface.
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