Hello.
I have a discussion group so all members can post to the group. Most spam is
filtered out by Mailman. But I've just had a couple of spam messages get
through using, I assume spoofing, a member's address.
Spam spoofing a member's address is sometimes sent to the list but in years
Thanks for the responses, I have it doing what I want it to do now.
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On Mon, 2018-08-06 at 19:00 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 08/06/2018 11:08 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> >
> > What's your thoughts on adding reCAPTCHA to the 2nd half of the
> > listinfo page in o
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> On 08/06/2018 02:08 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> >
> > What's your thoughts on adding reCAPTCHA to the 2nd half of the
> > listinfo page in o
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Hi (newbie to this)
Mailman 2.1.26 MacOS 10.13.6
I have scrub of regular delivery in non-digest set to No but
when I peruse a message with attachments in Archives it says they were scrubbed
and in the message the attachments appear, not a link
what am I missing?
thank you
Hello
Am 06.08.2018 um 10:22 schrieb Jayson Smith:
>
> Last night at 11:15 or so, I received a password reminder from
> Mailman-users, with my correct password. Only problem is, I never
> requested such a reminder. Did anyone else get one, was someone testing
> something with
was
not updated to the correct one.
11:40:04 AM Ankitha Y I have now updated to v=spf1 +a +mx +ip4:129.121.3.204
+include:websitewelcome.com ~all
and that solved the problem; q.com and other centurylink.net mail passing thru
Ok
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Where do I start to sort this out?
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ssing; some are based on things like
request size. Some are rules that assume a pretty dumb web service;
where you know that Mailman can cope with constructs/sizes/encodings,
you're expected to disable those rules on the URLs that it serves.
There will be logs on the server that specify exactly
Hello, until recently I had my mailman web configuration in a directory in my
www domain, like www.mydomain.de/mailman. Now I changed the structure to have
an URL like lists.mydomain.de. I also changed the apache configuration and the
/etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py file. This kind of works, I can
uman friendly portion to be something like
this:
From: "Grant Taylor - gtaylor (at) tnetconsulting (dot) net"
(2) It breaks all the quoting mechanisms in every existing MUA, which
now instead of, e.g.,
>>>>> Grant Taylor writes:
will insert
>>
they would start with the assumption that mail
is benign until proven otherwise. I can't fault you for taking my words
literally. :-)
Thank you for clarifying.
I try not to assume incorrectly, and prefer to ask.
Thank you for the conversation Steve.
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of the From: header comes into play.
I.e.
From: Grant Taylor
Becomes:
From: Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
This can show up in the index of a mailbox.
Or the two lines that I'm suggesting prefixing the body with.
Grant Taylor wrote the following:
Granted, that doesn't show
records.
I.e.
From: Grant Taylor
Becomes:
From: Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
Thus removing any conflict with any DMARC records published by
tnetconsulting.net
Since the message is now from the Mailman-Users mailing list, it's
perfectly possible to insert a line at the start
a
Mailman mailing list.
1) Apply all applicable filters (reverse DNS, SPF, DKIM, DMARC, Spam,
Virus, etc) as early in the SMTP process as possible. Reject (as
appropriate) anything that fails respective tests.
2) Strip all applicable security headers between the MTA and the MLM.
3) Mailing list
suggested for DMARC. That being said, I did want to
direct replies back to the discussion list.
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On Sun, 2018-07-22 at 16:36 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 07/22/2018 12:49 PM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> >
> > What could be set for an older list that would break reCAPTCHAs?
>
>
> A list specific listin
e critical mass long before AOL and Yahoo fueled
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mailing lists should not be white listed.
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believe that the dog is doing exactly what they are trained to do
when an armed police officer walks up. The dog is doing exactly what
they were trained to do.
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On 07/20/2018 12:40 AM, Jayson Smith wrote:
Could either of these milter solutions linked previously be adapted for
use as a Sendmail milter? I'd love to find something which would query
Mailman about the status of a particular sender address at the RCPT
stage of the SMTP transaction so
relationship, save for traditional
Business-to-Business methods. At least I'm not aware of anything more
automatic.
Thus I question how useful ARC will be for small operators. :-/
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On 07/19/2018 06:22 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
If Mailman is asked to remove or replace DKIM headers, the
headers affected are DomainKey-Signature, DKIM-Signature and
Authentication-Results.
Good to know.
Thank you for clarifying Mark.
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On 07/19/2018 04:16 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Mailman can be configured to remove DKIM related headers from
incoming mail before sending.
ACK
I'm lumping various in as well, which I'm not aware of Mailman being
able to remove.
Authentication-Results:
I think there are others that fall
pretty rare for the path from a
user to the mailman server to do things that would cause DMARC fails.
Yep, that's what I was referring to.
If you want to reinvent DMARC, you could add an option to say that all
submissions from me must have a DKIM signature or validated SPF from
domain X, where
server exercises.
I personally feel like Mailman, and many other similar things, should
sit behind an external / edge SMTP server that does some of the heavy
lifting and provides detection of and possibly protection against many
spoofs.
Mailman does not make any checks of the "Rec
On July 19, 2018 6:53:52 PM UTC, Jim Popovitch wrote:
>On July 19, 2018 5:28:24 PM UTC, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>>On 07/19/2018 08:02 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
>>>
>>> I have often wondered about enhancing Mailman, or augmenting it with
>>a
>&g
On July 19, 2018 5:28:24 PM UTC, Mark Sapiro wrote:
>On 07/19/2018 08:02 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
>>
>> I have often wondered about enhancing Mailman, or augmenting it with
>a
>> milter, to be able to test the SMTP envelope from, to, and body
>content
On 07/19/2018 06:16 AM, Robert Heller wrote:
I mean it does not check things like the Received: headers*by default*. If
the email part of the From: header is a list member address, Mailman
will consider that the mail is from that member and pass the message on
to the list,*even if the From
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On Mon, 2018-06-11 at 12:21 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote:
> On 6/11/18 10:26 AM, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users wrote:
> >
> > For some unknown reason a legitimate human sent a subscribe request
> > to
> > mailman-subsc
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Hello,
For some unknown reason a legitimate human sent a subscribe request to
mailman-subscr...@domain.tld and now I'm receiving pending subscriber
notifications for the "mailman" list, which isn't a list with an
available web
Very nice!
Thanks again,
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On Mon, 2018-06-04 at 18:47 +, Parker, Michael D. wrote:
> I have mailman 2.x and am specifically interested in knowing how to
> do the following two tasks:
>
>
> 1. List all users with all their mailing lists
list_mem
On 06/03/2018 04:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Ban list regexps are case insensitive.
Thank you for the clarification Mark.
The fact that the ones I saw never had periods following the plus sign.
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On June 3, 2018 5:44:17 PM UTC, Henrique Fagundes
wrote:
>Dear,
>
>Where should I put this file?
>First I put it in "/ etc / mailman", and it did not work.
>
It's intended to be an example of modifications that can be made to Utils.py in
order to get bet
; I'm having a hard time using Fail2Ban along with MailMan mailing
> list
> management software.
>
> My idea is that when the attacker / attacker incorrectly enters the
> password of the login field in the web interface, it is blocked. But
> for
> this to work, it is n
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routing with
reverse path filtering.
I've found all of the above to be quite effective.
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machines, not just
one. (I'm referring to network appliance type firewalls, not host based.)
No, this is not security through obscurity. It runs on a different
port so I can add firewall rules that effect only mailman service and
not other web applications.
Fair enough.
I need to give my
On 05/31/2018 03:05 PM, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
What exactly is it about mailman usernames and passwords that you are
trying to protect with HTTPS?
I wasn't talking about Mailman usernames (email addresses) and
passwords. I was talking about the usernames and passwords for Basic
HTTP(S
Hi Michael D.,
although I strongly believe it's NOT recommended to do what you're thinking
about for a productive environment - it's
open and free software, have fun ;-)
Instead of just changing the .pck files, as a starting point, I would suggest
to download the mailman sources, try
same security experts.
Proper answer with those guys is don't run mailman. Export the subscribers
and use it as CC list in Orifice'365: you can't go wrong with "industry
standard".
I'm going to disagree with you there. You most certainly can go wrong
with "industry standard" or &
the web server's
ability to filter by IP?
What I do, is to run the mailman GUI on a non-standard https port.
Okay. (Additional) security through obscurity. Sure. I do similar
with various things.
I then create webserver URL rewrites that redirect url access to that
port.
Why? I feel like
certificates to authenticate the client to the server. — I have yet to
see any Web UI leverage this. — It's built into the web server. }:-)
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On 05/30/2018 03:36 PM, Parker, Michael D. wrote:
I've been assigned the task of attempting to secure our current
implementation of GNU MailMan.
One thing that I've not seen (or missed) in this thread is the idea of
leveraging HTTPS usernames and passwords to protect the web interface.
IMHO
Mark,
pls forget my last email, you've led me already in the right direction:
- tried a sudo -u mailman /usr/lib/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo and echo $? after
that
- showed 8 as error code
- downloaded source for mailman 2.1.26, looked into source for cgi-wrapper.c,
specifically into common.h
- 8
2018 12:16 PM, michaelof--- via Mailman-Users wrote:
>
>> Maybe a silly question: for what (specific) "wrapper configuration file"
>> mailman is searching for??
>
>
> That's a Suse question. Standard GNU Mailman has no such message. Read
> the Suse Mailman docs to
Mark,
thank you for answering so detailed!
Am 29.05.2018 um 19:37 schrieb Mark Sapiro:
> On 05/29/2018 03:19 AM, michaelof--- via Mailman-Users wrote:
>>
>> After upgrading the VPS to OpenSuse Leap 15.0, Mailman still 2.1.26, Apache
>> from 2.4.23 to 2.4.33, Python fro
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Hello to all,
first post to this mailing list, so first of all thank you very much to all who
helped to make Mailman and it's
community reality!
I'm running mailman now for a while without issues. On my VPS, not a big
installation, not many lists, just a few users
per list.
After upgrading
On 24-May-18 17:06, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> who just now wants extra analytics from Mailman, real bad timing !
> GDPR law hits Europe in 1 hour if CET or 2 maybe in BST, &
> Many people in major through tiny companies & orgs (way beyond
> a few of us Mailman admins
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Argh! This was intended for just Mark, not the whole list. Sigh.
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On Thu, 2018-05-24 at 11:40 -0400, Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Given a bounce msg with a subpart of:
>
>
> messa
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leted or pwned, and not available to the person wanting redaction.
Technical complications. :-D
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tire paper needs to be shredded.
I think it also significantly depends on what needs to be redacted.
Removing "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" is a LOT different than
removing "Grant Taylor" from the Mailman-Users archive.
"supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"
unstructured manner. Plus, extracting email
addresses (and associated names) from a mail archive, HTML or not, is
relatively easy. ;-)
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existing links to messages? Or at least disassociating them such that
they link to the wrong message?
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mailman into a state that I can safely modify the archive.
2) Run a script (likely sed) to REDACT the contents.
sed -i$ticketID 's/phone number/REDACTED/g;s/Eventbright
Link/REDACTED/g;#etc'
3) Restarted Mailman and possibly web server serving the archive.
(Or otherwise flushed caches.)
I
On 05/15/2018 03:18 AM, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
At the moment the list administrator and moderator account is accessed
via no username and a single password. If that password is shared,
I have no audit trail of who logged into the system.
ACK
I like to run Mailman (et al) administration pages
ow that
they should not contact the person again? I.e. a black list.
(* Don't talk to me about proving the negative. Assume a 3rd party
oversight of some sort.)
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Unsubsc
ツ)_/¯
Again all this up for interpretation. The largest ones for me at the
moment is regarding auditing access to the Mailman admin access and the
archive purging requests.
I'm not trying to come across as argumentative. I'm sorry if I am. I'm
simply bringing up things that I think are potential
arders are "mail address aliases", which you can set up (or delete) in
the second icon of cPanel's "Email" section.
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I think most uses of blockchain are bogus and I'm ready for the buzz
word to go away.
I mentioned it because GDPR and blockchain are sort of antipodes when it
comes to the right to be forgotten.
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ive impact on archives.
God forbid if blockchain was used on the archive. }:-)
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I performed a massive debian update last week, which included a postfix update.
Mailman may have updated too (it is currently 2.1.26). All other mail services
on my server appear to still work (Drupal password resets, Roundcube webmail
send/receive, virtual mailbox forwarding), but mailman
On 19-Apr-18 23:33, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> tlhackque via Mailman-Users writes:
>
> > I'm not sure what you are looking for.
>
> I'm looking for anything that will help block swaths of Chinese
> spammers and possibly attacks, while allowing me to do a better job
On 04/19/2018 04:17 AM, kan...@yamachu-tokachi.co.jp wrote:
Hello Mailman experts,
I'm not an expert, but I've got questions.
I created a mailing list (i.e. a...@ml.abc.co.jp) with mailman in our
organization.
I don't think it matters, but I want to make sure I'm not assuming
anything
re are alternatives, and you need to evaluate what each
offers against your needs.
Unfortunately, there's no universal answer.
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Am 19.04.2018 um 13:16 schrieb Jon Clements:
> Hi, my Mailman seems to have stopped sending mail. Posts to a list(s) are
> not going anywhere, nor for example, subscribe notifications, etc. are not
> going out. It seems to be receiving mail as pending moderator requests are
> there. We
the long term,
there is no such thing as a "small" P.roject.
> Those are the sort of checks that pertain to the operation of any domain
> and its nameservers and mail exchangers. But in addition, if run on a
> Mailman 2 or 3 host:
>
> - what mailing lists are public?
On 16-Apr-18 07:38, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 09:08:43AM +0200, mailman-admin wrote:
>> Brute Force attempts can only be mitigated by e.g. fail2ban.
> Nope. There are other ways.
>
> Brute force attacks can be pre-emptively blocked by nearly everyone
>
Hi
Am 16.04.2018 um 00:53 schrieb Steven Jones:
> Hi,
>
> We are currently under brute force attack on our mailman server's web ui.
> Is there anything / feature that Mailman has that can be used to
> watch/monitor it?
> Sadly I think we'll have to remove i
uarantine" behavior.
I'm confident that Mailop subscribers can respond to this.
Here's the really annoying thing. My dmarc_shield processor rewrites the
From header as per SOP for Mailman with the proper switch turned on. The
From header address becomes "postmas...@fmp.com" w
Hello Carl Zwanzig. On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 14:45:13 -0700, you wrote:
> On 3/27/2018 9:52 AM, Christian F Buser via Mailman-Users wrote:
>> Hello David Elliott. On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 10:51:40 +0200, you wrote:
>>
>>> One of the recipients recently did a 'reply to all' and c
Hello David Elliott. On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 10:51:40 +0200, you wrote:
> I am a newbie to Mailman and cpanel and I need some help, please. I
> have set up a mailing list for my tennis club (about 300 on list) and
> it seems to work ok BUT each recipient only sees the mailing list
>
Howdy,
I recently updated from mailman 2.1.? to 2.1.26. After this update users can
not subscribe or unsubscribe. Here is the error from the mailman log. Any
ideas what I need to fix? It may be a database problem?
Thanks
Jeff
Mar 27 08:57:49 2018 admin(21493
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> Obviously, the sending domain *does* exist, so I assume it's their
> problem. Is there anything at all I can do about this? Not all mail to
> these users bounces.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Jayson
>
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Hello Mark Sapiro. On Tue, 20 Mar 2018 10:18:06 -0700, you wrote:
>> How is the bounce counter handled by mailman? Is it "reset"
>> automatically after a certain period without delivery problems? Or
>> can I reset it manually (I did not see this possibility,
by mailman? Is it "reset" automatically after
a certain period without delivery problems? Or can I reset it manually (I did
not see this possibility, but it still might exist)?
Mailman 2.1.23 on cPanel 68.0.33
Thank you, Christian
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On 03/16/2018 07:54 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote:
Has there been any noise about Yahoo on mailop about this new behavior?
I just read a handful of messages on mailop where multiple people are
reporting this issue.
One of the last messages indicated that the problem might
own good recipient addresses.
It sounds like some sort of filtering is either mis-behaving or poorly
configured to me.
Has there been any noise about Yahoo on mailop about this new behavior?
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old my preference against you or others.
If your Mailman is configured so:
…
(that is, first_strip_reply_to=No, reply_goes_to_list=This List)
Then if user A sends a message to the list without a Reply-To, replies
will go to the list, but if user B sends a message to the list with
"Reply-To: "
o do with this being a problem. Specifically that the sample
message has the Reply-To: set to the same value as the From:.
From: Grant Taylor <redac...@example.net>
To: Mailman-Users <mailman-users@python.org>
CC: REDACTED <redac...@example.com>
Reply-To: Grant Ta
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