Re: [Mailman-Users] (relatively) new DMARC issues - and Gmail

2018-04-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 03/31/2018 11:31 AM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > > At some point Amazon (amazon.com) started publishing a DMARC > "p=quarantine" policy, which means that any email which gets redirected > and hits my dmarc_shield piece is going to have its From address re- > written to "postmas...@fmp.com"

Re: [Mailman-Users] (relatively) new DMARC issues - and Gmail

2018-04-02 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
Have you considered sending your message to the Mailop mailing list? I know that there are a couple of Gmail admins / coworkers that are subscribed to Mailop and will respond to issues like this. Plus, it might also be a better forum and get more engagement / suggestions / gratitude by

Re: [Mailman-Users] (relatively) new DMARC issues - and Gmail

2018-03-31 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Sat, 2018-03-31 at 19:12 -0400, Richard Damon wrote: > I think you aren't understanding the munging I am suggesting. If I sent  > a message that went through your system, (and my setup triggered your  > munging) would be something like: > > richard_at_damon.family.org_dm...@fmp.com > > This,

Re: [Mailman-Users] (relatively) new DMARC issues - and Gmail

2018-03-31 Thread Richard Damon
On 3/31/18 6:55 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Sat, 2018-03-31 at 17:33 -0500, Lindsay Haisley wrote: I've had to deal with Gmail's honey-potting before, and I can do it again if necessary. I don't imagine that you've ever done commercial email administration, Richard, or you might have

Re: [Mailman-Users] (relatively) new DMARC issues - and Gmail

2018-03-31 Thread Richard Damon
On 3/31/18 6:33 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Sat, 2018-03-31 at 17:57 -0400, Richard Damon wrote: On 3/31/18 3:35 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Sat, 2018-03-31 at 14:50 -0400, Richard Damon wrote: To me the issue sounds like why is fmp.com forwarding spam? If this is a case of fmp.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] (relatively) new DMARC issues - and Gmail

2018-03-31 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Sat, 2018-03-31 at 17:33 -0500, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > I've had to deal with Gmail's honey-potting before, and I can do it > again if necessary. I don't imagine that you've ever done commercial > email administration, Richard, or you might have something constructive > to say instead of just

Re: [Mailman-Users] (relatively) new DMARC issues - and Gmail

2018-03-31 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Sat, 2018-03-31 at 17:57 -0400, Richard Damon wrote: > On 3/31/18 3:35 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2018-03-31 at 14:50 -0400, Richard Damon wrote: > > > > > > To me the issue sounds like why is fmp.com forwarding spam? > > > > > > If this is a case of fmp.com offering

Re: [Mailman-Users] (relatively) new DMARC issues - and Gmail

2018-03-31 Thread Richard Damon
On 3/31/18 3:35 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: On Sat, 2018-03-31 at 14:50 -0400, Richard Damon wrote: To me the issue sounds like why is fmp.com forwarding spam? If this is a case of fmp.com offering forwarding mailboxes to users, who might be using gmail as a final destination, then yes, fmp

Re: [Mailman-Users] (relatively) new DMARC issues - and Gmail

2018-03-31 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Sat, 2018-03-31 at 14:50 -0400, Richard Damon wrote: > To me the issue sounds like why is fmp.com forwarding spam? > > If this is a case of fmp.com offering forwarding mailboxes to users, who  > might be using gmail as a final destination, then yes, fmp needs to try  > to be as good at

Re: [Mailman-Users] (relatively) new DMARC issues - and Gmail

2018-03-31 Thread Richard Damon
On 3/31/18 2:31 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote: I've been working with a From-rewriting tool with code taken from Mailman (thanks, Mark!) and discovered a couple of things which I thought deserved posting about. I expect that they peripherally affect Mailman, too. At some point Amazon (amazon.com)

[Mailman-Users] (relatively) new DMARC issues - and Gmail

2018-03-31 Thread Lindsay Haisley
I've been working with a From-rewriting tool with code taken from Mailman (thanks, Mark!) and discovered a couple of things which I thought deserved posting about. I expect that they peripherally affect Mailman, too. At some point Amazon (amazon.com) started publishing a DMARC "p=quarantine"