[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-02-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
rich...@karmannghia.org writes: > It's very straight-forward: C'mon, man, Grandpa knows how to tie his shoes. The construction of such an encrypted list not technically terribly complex---as you said yourself, a SMOC. The problems are describing *who* is the adversary, *what* will they do to i

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-02-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Juergen Dollinger writes: > We tried encrypted lists some years ago. Have a look at > http://non-gnu.uvt.nl/mailman-pgp-smime/ Thank you for describing your experience! The people side is always hard. I'm not unhopeful though, but it's going to take work, especially good design. > The idea i

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-02-06 Thread richard
Steven, Juergen, et al, I had written most of this but interrupted, then Jurgen's email came in, so... this got an edit! If a spot or two seems awkward it's because of available time. On Mon, 5 Feb 2024, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Thanks for your followup. Although you suggested taking t

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-02-06 Thread Juergen Dollinger
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > The fact that nobody but you has raised their hand to say "I want > this" or "my list owners would really like this" is not a point in its > favor. We tried encrypted lists some years ago. Have a look at http://non-gnu.uvt.nl/mailman-pgp-smime/ The idea is that there

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-02-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Hi Richard, Thanks for your followup. Although you suggested taking the conversation private, I want to at least continue for one more post because it's not clear to me that there's demand for this service that is enough to justify the likely substantial cost of development. I don't know how to

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-01-30 Thread richard
Hi Steve, Dima, et al: Thanks for almost-volunteering. But lets make sure we're "on the same page." And I make a few other remarks along the way to maybe getting somewhere useful. It's faster if I just get to the point rather than framing things in response to prior posts, so I hope this

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-01-30 Thread Richard
On Tue, 30 Jan 2024, Dmitri Maziuk wrote: On 1/30/24 07:47, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: rich...@karmannghia.org writes: ... > Anyone who thinks their unencrypted emails are in any way secure on > the open internet is, unfortunately SADLY mistaken. This is true. Security by obscurit

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-01-30 Thread Dmitri Maziuk
On 1/30/24 07:47, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: rich...@karmannghia.org writes: ... > Anyone who thinks their unencrypted emails are in any way secure on > the open internet is, unfortunately SADLY mistaken. This is true. Security by obscurity works up to a point, but if you ever get targete

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-01-30 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
rich...@karmannghia.org writes: > ...I would hope that all netizens are fully aware (and obviously > not all are) that there is not and cannot be such a thing as "safe > environment for email discussions" with email as now practiced and > to create it requires a serious overhaul of the way ema

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-01-30 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Christian Buser via Mailman-Users writes: > Please don’t feed the trolls... I don't have time to visit trolly websites, either. Lucky me, this time! :) :) :) -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an emai

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-01-29 Thread Christian Buser via Mailman-Users
It appears to me that the author of this message just wants to deposit his spam. The website referenced in the message has nothing at all to do with Mail / Mailman / Computing. Please don’t feed the trolls... Christian Sron Dev schrieb am 28.01.24 um 15:43: > Please let me know which platform yo

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-01-29 Thread Richard
On Mon, 29 Jan 2024, Dmitri Maziuk wrote: Given what a sentence like "ensur[ing] a safe environment for email discussions" means in the current US political climate, when I see something like that, I killfile the sender. IJS, Dima Oh Gawd, Dima, sensorship vs spying?! I missed that ent

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-01-29 Thread Dmitri Maziuk
On 1/29/24 09:39, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: Steve, Sron, et al: Regarding: "ensur[ing] a safe environment for email discussions" ...I would hope that all netizens are fully aware (and obviously not all are) that there is not and cannot be such a thing as "safe environment for email dis

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-01-29 Thread richard
Steve, Sron, et al: Regarding: "ensur[ing] a safe environment for email discussions" ...I would hope that all netizens are fully aware (and obviously not all are) that there is not and cannot be such a thing as "safe environment for email discussions" with email as now practiced and to crea

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-01-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Sron Dev writes: > Please let me know which platform you'd like me to elaborate on, Me personally? None. I don't have time for theoretical discussions. Maybe somebody else does, you're welcome to pick a platform and hold forth (but see below for venue, this is almost certainly not the right li

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-01-29 Thread Sron Dev
Please let me know which platform you'd like me to elaborate on, and I'll be happy to delve into its security features and how they create a safe environment for email discussions or API interactions, whichever is relevant. https://attitudecaption.com/ ---

[Mailman-Users] Re: Security features of Mailman

2024-01-16 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 8:54 PM sanjay jangam wrote: > Can you elaborate on the security features of Mailman and how it ensures a > safe environment for email discussions? > > Regards, > Sanjay Jangam > www.sanjayjangam.com Please disconnect your computer from the Internet and don't install M