Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-10 Thread Jeff Horn
Perhaps off-topic, but is the storage model documented anywhere in detail? On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Seebs mailmate-l...@seebs.net wrote: On 8 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: I should also warn that moving messages from an online account to an offline account does not work

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-10 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 10 Nov 2013, at 22:32, Jeff Horn wrote: Perhaps off-topic, but is the storage model documented anywhere in detail? No, I consider it an implementation detail, but I do answer questions about it. The important thing to know is that MailMate saves all emails as standard raw files. Each

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-10 Thread Markolf Gudjons
Benny, On 10 Nov 2013, at 23:27, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: The important thing to know is that MailMate saves all emails as standard raw files. Each email in its own file. This means that any emails known to MailMate can always be found in the folder hierarchy located here:

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-10 Thread Jeffrey Horn
On 10 Nov 2013, at 17:27, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/Messages/ It is *not* safe to remove messages from this folder. Good to know! Thanks. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-08 Thread Bill Cole
On 3 Nov 2013, at 4:37, Seebs wrote: On 3 Nov 2013, at 3:29, Alasdair Muckart wrote: If you want fetch-and-store rather than server-stored you want something like POP rather than IMAP. Fetchmail to a local store you access using IMAP and MailMate would act the way you sound like you need

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-08 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 8 Nov 2013, at 18:15, Bill Cole wrote: [offline IMAP account as local storage] One flaw in this approach which should be known if you use IMAP flags extensively is that if you ever have to rebuild your MM database from messages, you lose any flags that have been set on the messages in a

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-08 Thread Seebs
On 8 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: I should also warn that moving messages from an online account to an offline account does not work well. Internally, MailMate never deletes a message from its source mailbox before it has been uploaded to the destination mailbox (when it's

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-06 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
On 5 Nov 2013, at 17:46, Eric A. Meyer wrote: On 4 Nov 2013, at 3:56, m...@assai.com.au wrote: What I would like to see in MailMate is the option to have on my Mac mail folders. This provides not only ways of safeguarding mail (important: this can have legal implications these days), but

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-06 Thread Seebs
On 6 Nov 2013, at 4:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: I'll do what I can to make this more unlikely to happen (implement some of the warnings discussed with Seebs), but in most cases this problem is not much different than the risk of a local corrupted (or stolen) disk. The exception is, of

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-04 Thread m...@assai.com.au
What I like about Apple Mail is that allows for both iMap folders and on my Mac folders. What I do is I automatically copy all incoming mail into on my Mac folders, so I have multiple backups: (a) on the iMap server (b) on my Mac (c) in my Mac's backup system (though of course, this lags.)

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-03 Thread Alasdair Muckart
On 3 Nov 2013, at 19:59, mailmate-l...@seebs.net wrote: I think I've run into this before, with the notion that IMAP's goal is synchronization. But I don't want synchronization; I want to download mail and then keep it forever. I absolutely, positively, under NO CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOEVER, want

Re: [MlMt] Uh-oh. Imap just bit me...

2013-11-03 Thread Seebs
On 3 Nov 2013, at 3:29, Alasdair Muckart wrote: If you want fetch-and-store rather than server-stored you want something like POP rather than IMAP. Fetchmail to a local store you access using IMAP and MailMate would act the way you sound like you need and could be backed up locally. That's